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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / May 2004iSIM prepaid mobile
Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. Will be interesting to see how this fares; don't know that AAPT has taken much share with its cut-price 49c/min. - 39c/minute, billed per second, no flagfall - 19c SMS - Optus network, product owned by SIMplus (Optus subsidiary) Low cost product distribution. Operating with no stores will cut costs, for sure, but may not reach enough people achieve a critical mass. Is Optus priming the customer base with low prices, then offload to some wannabe telco, like it did with dingo blue and AGL? Would anyone buy it? - 'voucherless' pre-paid recharge via website, SMS, phone, or pre-registered auto-credit - buy SIM or phones online only Flexible pre-paid recharge - buy any value between $10 and $100 per day - call credits last 6 months (186 days) Bring on the povs, kids and druggies. http://www.isim.com.au/ > Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. > Will be interesting to see how this fares; I doubt most will even notice. > don't know that AAPT has taken much share with its cut-price 49c/min. > - 39c/minute, billed per second, no flagfall > - 19c SMS > - Optus network, product owned by SIMplus (Optus subsidiary) > Low cost product distribution. Operating with no stores will cut costs, > for sure, but may not reach enough people achieve a critical mass. Doesnt really need critical mass. > Is Optus priming the customer base with > low prices, then offload to some wannabe > telco, like it did with dingo blue and AGL? the dog was loosing money all along. And only an operation like agl would be stupid enough to buy it. > Would anyone buy it? I doubt Optarse would want to sell it. They've mostly been absorbing their dud reseller operations instead. > - 'voucherless' pre-paid recharge via website, > SMS, phone, or pre-registered auto-credit > - buy SIM or phones online only Bout time someone got off their fat arse and did the low cost route. Corse optarse's record with online stuff is f.cking hopeless. > Flexible pre-paid recharge > - buy any value between $10 and $100 per day > - call credits last 6 months (186 days) > Bring on the povs, kids and druggies. > http://www.isim.com.au/ > > Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. > It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. Which ones are they? >>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. >> It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. > Which ones are they? AAPT prepaid Vodafone NoPlan Optus Usage Only the slut Some of the others are cheap in other ways, particularly the Telstra free calls in the hour you nominate. That one suits the geriatrics that zoom around in the 'mobile homes' pretty well. While it does have a fixed monthly charge, thats quite a bit less than the fixed line rent now and is about what is charged to pensioners etc for a fixed line. That can end up quite cheap for some types of usage. > AAPT prepaid isim: 39c per min, cheaper flat rate per min, and cheaper sms, and flatrate voicemail (not time based) > Vodafone NoPlan no flag fall on isim, cheaper per min rate, cheaper sms, and flatrate voicemail (not time based) > Optus Usage Only cheaper rate, 39c per min, billed by the second instead of 30 sec blocks, and cheaper sms and flatrate voicemail (not time based) >>>>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. >>>> It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. >>> Which ones are they? >> AAPT prepaid > isim: 39c per min, cheaper flat rate per min, and > cheaper sms, and flatrate voicemail (not time based) Still doesnt make the isim BLOODY CHEAP compared with that. And it remains to be seen what AAPT will do in reponse to that new competition. >> Vodafone NoPlan > no flag fall on isim, cheaper per min rate, cheaper > sms, and flatrate voicemail (not time based) See above. And no credit to expire with pay monthly. >> Optus Usage Only > cheaper rate, 39c per min, billed by the second instead of 30 sec > blocks, and cheaper sms and flatrate voicemail (not time based) See above. > >> AAPT prepaid > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > And it remains to be seen what AAPT will > do in reponse to that new competition. Like everything aapt do.. nothing! They still dont even support mms.. isim has gprs wap, mms, voicemail etc all setup on connection no worries, also live customer service chat in the website once signup as a member, no dialing a mobile off your home phone for customer service or getting raped by aapts rates to customer service.. >>>> AAPT prepaid >>> isim: 39c per min, cheaper flat rate per min, and >>> cheaper sms, and flatrate voicemail (not time based) >> Still doesnt make the isim BLOODY CHEAP compared with that. >> And it remains to be seen what AAPT will >> do in reponse to that new competition. > Like everything aapt do.. nothing! We'll see. > They still dont even support mms.. Sure. > isim has gprs wap, mms, voicemail etc > all setup on connection no worries, Sure, I didnt say it doesnt have any advantages, of course it does. I was commenting on whether it is BLOODY CHEAP compared with the other low end offerings. > also live customer service chat in the > website once signup as a member, > no dialing a mobile off your home > phone for customer service or getting > raped by aapts rates to customer service.. See above. > >>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > AAPT prepaid Its 39c instead of 49c per minute, almost exactly the same. So how is it not bloody cheap? > Some of the others are cheap in other ways, particularly the > Telstra free calls in the hour you nominate. That one suits the MyHour. Excellent for . . . certain naughy tasks > > Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. > > It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. OK C'mon then Rod, what fantastic u beaut mobile plan are you on? If i make a 1 minute phone call with this, i get charged 39 cents. To do that on most other carriers, your call rate would have to be about 19c a minute, as their flagfall is 20c. To get that on optus' regular plans, you would have to be spending $150 a month. For someone like me, who usually uses less than $30 a month, it's a very cheap deal, and I doubt I can find something better. It supports MMS too, which AAPT currently doesn't do. Jason >>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. >> It isnt bloody cheap when compared with the other low end offers. > OK C'mon then Rod, what fantastic u beaut mobile plan are you on? I've got all the cheap ones that arent prepaid. I'm not a pov, druggy, or child. > If i make a 1 minute phone call with this, i get charged 39 cents. > To do that on most other carriers, your call rate would have to > be about 19c a minute, as their flagfall is 20c. Its much more complicated than that. > To get that on optus' regular plans, you > would have to be spending $150 a month. You dont pay much more with $0 per month. > For someone like me, who usually uses less than $30 a month, > it's a very cheap deal, and I doubt I can find something better. Your doubts are completely irrelevant. > It supports MMS too, which AAPT currently doesn't do. Only silly kids bother with that. > >>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'm not a pov, druggy, or child. You must be some sort of pov to be obsessed with all these $0 plans. > > >>> Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > I'm not a pov, druggy, or child. > You must be some sort of pov Nope, I'm rolling in it. > to be obsessed with all these $0 plans. I'm just interested in how easy it is to avoid the ripoff/scams. Quite happy to pay decent money for stuff like adsl etc. cool. yet another prepaid to sample. > Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. Will be interesting to see how > this fares; don't know that AAPT has taken much share with its cut-price [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > http://www.isim.com.au/ sounds great, worth sampling... but how many times can one move one's favourite mobile number between telcos?? optarse>virgin>aapt>isim?? >Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. Will be interesting to see how >this fares; don't know that AAPT has taken much share with its cut-price [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >http://www.isim.com.au/ "matrokr" <matrokr@nospamr.vel.com.au> said > sounds great, worth sampling... but how many times can one move one's > favourite mobile number between telcos?? optarse>virgin>aapt>isim?? As many times as you want (or can afford.....)  SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) > sounds great, worth sampling... but how many times can one move one's favourite > mobile number between telcos?? optarse>virgin>aapt>isim?? You can do it as many times as possible. I dont port my main number b/w the diff trial SIMs. Just take a new one each time, as its only a trial. Ive never had a prepaid as a main number, they usually arent the best value. Only exception was to port a Telstra number to '3' because it was required for a cheaper connection. Also a Telstra number to AAPT prepaid as got $5 extra credit. Was interesting connecting with Telstra and having ported out both services within a few hours :) > >Bloody cheap rates, compared to most offers. Will be interesting to see > how [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >http://www.isim.com.au/ i think i will stay with my optus plan. only 11 cents per 30 seconds + 22 cent flagfall > > sounds great, worth sampling... but how many times can one move one's > favourite [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > > >http://www.isim.com.au/ On 26/5/04 1:42 AM, in article 40b3697d@duster.adelaide.on.net, "Oracle" <please@nospam.com> wrote: > i think i will stay with my optus plan. > > only 11 cents per 30 seconds + 22 cent flagfall And your monthly fee is? Of course if you make long calls its likely worthwhile. For us POVs and druggys (as Rod likes to refer to us, even those of us in full employment) who make short calls, most of which are under a minute, very infrequently, iSim is an ideal solution. >> i think i will stay with my optus plan. >> only 11 cents per 30 seconds + 22 cent flagfall > And your monthly fee is? > Of course if you make long calls its likely worthwhile. > For us POVs and druggys (as Rod likes to refer to us, even those > of us in full employment) who make short calls, most of which are > under a minute, very infrequently, iSim is an ideal solution. Nope, Unison is even better. Since they are stupid enough to give you a $5.75 credit for having email bills and direct debit, that sort of use should provide free calls, even if they are in theory a bit higher than the iSim rates. The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. >The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. Optus 321 voice mail can be accessed by way of a free call number. can you do that with Vodafone? >> The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. > Optus 321 voice mail can be accessed by way of > a free call number. can you do that with Vodafone? I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. > >> The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. > > > Optus 321 voice mail can be accessed by way of > > a free call number. can you do that with Vodafone? > > I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. Are you referring to ringback rather than SMS? Voda and Telstra both have that, is that your preferred option? Or is it just preferred because its free :-) >> Charlie Wong <willwasteyou@gmx.net> wrote >>>> The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. >>> Optus 321 voice mail can be accessed by way of >>> a free call number. can you do that with Vodafone? >> I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. > Are you referring to ringback rather than SMS? Yes. > Voda and Telstra both have that, But the iSim being discussed doesnt. > is that your preferred option? I dont bother with voicemail myself, but it is a better approach if you do. > Or is it just preferred because its free :-) Nope, I dont use voicemail at all. >Nope, I dont use voicemail at all. Yeah, I would imagine it would get a bit painful deleting abusive messages all the time. >I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. Rod, this is your first-ever non-abusive post to me. You have ruined my day. > >I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. > > Rod, this is your first-ever non-abusive post to me. You have ruined > my day. Rod's quite often civil. >> I didnt mean that, I meant notification that there is a voicemail. > Rod, this is your first-ever non-abusive post to me. Another bovine lie. > You have ruined my day. Do the decent thing and hang yourself. > >The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. > > Optus 321 voice mail can be accessed by way of a free call number. can > you do that with Vodafone? Its not free if you dial the 1800 number from your mobile, so it becomes airtime charge. Let me know if thats wrong, because I know Optus do charge funny on certain 1800/13 calls. I wonder if there is a Voda 1800 numbr On 26/5/04 7:47 AM, in article 2hht7pFcu23bU1@uni-berlin.de, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> i think i will stay with my optus plan. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. Well, im sticking with voda for the moment, anyway. Its hardly costing me arms and legs > >> i think i will stay with my optus plan. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > debit, that sort of use should provide free calls, even if > they are in theory a bit higher than the iSim rates. Unison is 18c / 30 secs, so 36c for a minute, 18c for flagfall. With iSIM you get 39c per minute, by the second, and no flagfall. But Unision give you stupid credit, as agreed :-) Dependant on your average length calls, and number of calls per month, one is better than the other. But it could be either. Frankly it probably only comes down to cents! > The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. How so Rod? Im interested to know your views. I dont use voicemail that much so I dont really have preferences b/w them. I guess the cheapest is the best for me >> kyte <dontbedaft@mailisfake.com> wrote >>>> i think i will stay with my optus plan. >>>> only 11 cents per 30 seconds + 22 cent flagfall >>> And your monthly fee is? >>> Of course if you make long calls its likely worthwhile. >>> For us POVs and druggys (as Rod likes to refer to us, even those >>> of us in full employment) who make short calls, most of which are >>> under a minute, very infrequently, iSim is an ideal solution. >> Nope, Unison is even better. Since they are stupid enough >> to give you a $5.75 credit for having email bills and direct >> debit, that sort of use should provide free calls, even if >> they are in theory a bit higher than the iSim rates. > Unison is 18c / 30 secs, so 36c for a minute, 18c for flagfall. > With iSIM you get 39c per minute, by the second, and no flagfall. All completely irrelevant as long as you dont use more than the credit. > But Unision give you stupid credit, as agreed :-) > Dependant on your average length calls, and number of calls > per month, one is better than the other. But it could be either. > Frankly it probably only comes down to cents! Not when you dont spend more than the credit. Comes down to dollars in fact. >> The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. > How so Rod? Im interested to know your views. I dont > use voicemail that much so I dont really have preferences > b/w them. I guess the cheapest is the best for me I was referring to the vodafone system that will ring you and deliver the voicemail when you turn the phone on again. Much more convenient than having to check if you have voicemail. > > But Unision give you stupid credit, as agreed :-) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not when you dont spend more than the > credit. Comes down to dollars in fact. Yeah, I was thinking of those that make maybe $10 - $30 worth of calls. How it would compare > >> The vodafone voicemail system is more convenient too. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I was referring to the vodafone system that will ring you > and deliver the voicemail when you turn the phone on again. Telstra does that too. Does Optus? > Much more convenient than having to check if you have voicemail. Yes and no. Especially if you arent ready to take the call. > > I was referring to the vodafone system that will ring you > > and deliver the voicemail when you turn the phone on again. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yes and no. Especially if you arent ready to take the call. I also thought I read somewhere that this vodafone 'feature' costs 20 cents to receive the voicemail notice call?! No thanks... Virgin free voicemail for me, when *I* want to check it. > > > I was referring to the vodafone system that will ring you > > > and deliver the voicemail when you turn the phone on again. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to receive the voicemail notice call?! No thanks... Virgin free voicemail > for me, when *I* want to check it. Depends on your pricing plan > i think i will stay with my optus plan. > > only 11 cents per 30 seconds + 22 cent flagfall No doubt I will stay with mine, too. But I use mine mainly for SMS. So the call rate is largely irrelevant to me. Whats your SMS rate? |
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