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Martin Taylor - 06 Jun 2004 02:27 GMT
Just thought I'd share my experience with international roaming.

The missus flew out to the US yesterday. At 5am this morning, she SMSes
me from LAX telling me she arrived. Half awake, I SMS her back and she
received the text. I then rang her. After I pressed send, I heard the
international tones you get when you ring O/S.

All she had to do was to ring Telstra, on Wednesday to organise
International Roaming.. When she got off the plane, all she did was to
turn it on. And she got a signal. The "line" was as clear as if she was
still in Oz.

Her mobile's a Nokia 6310i.

I'm gonna dread getting the next bill......

Anyone got any idea of what calls, SMSes etc. cost when international
roaming?
Frank - 06 Jun 2004 03:56 GMT
> Just thought I'd share my experience with international roaming.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Anyone got any idea of what calls, SMSes etc. cost when international
> roaming?

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countryid=228
&CFID=956869&CFTOKEN=28941600

Martin Taylor - 06 Jun 2004 10:35 GMT
Frank said....

>> Anyone got any idea of what calls, SMSes etc. cost when international
>> roaming?

> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countr
> yid=228&CFID=956869&CFTOKEN=28941600

Thanks for that.

Not as bad as I thought. Still fuckin' expensive though. Doesn't say
much about SMS costs, though. I wonder how that's calculated. One GSM
carrier supports it (Cingular, formerly Bell South). Looks like 67 cents
a message. But I don't know what it costs me to send one there.
Michael - 06 Jun 2004 12:56 GMT
> Frank said....
>
> >> Anyone got any idea of what calls, SMSes etc. cost when international
> >> roaming?

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/products/overseas/countryinfo.cfm?countr
> > yid=228&CFID=956869&CFTOKEN=28941600
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> carrier supports it (Cingular, formerly Bell South). Looks like 67 cents
> a message. But I don't know what it costs me to send one there.

Its the carrier rate plus 30% markup
See other post with some indicative prices
Michael - 06 Jun 2004 10:07 GMT
> Just thought I'd share my experience with international roaming.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Anyone got any idea of what calls, SMSes etc. cost when international
> roaming?

www.telstra.com

Its just the overseas network costs plus a markup of 30%

SMS therefore varies from anything lower than our native 25c up to close to
a dollar.
Here are some *old* values,
Belgium KO $ 0.27
Belgium TB $ 0.33
Estonia RE $ 0.41
Finland TF $ 0.35
France F1 or F2 $ 0.39
Germany D2 $ 0.21
Ireland DF $ 0.35
Ireland EC $ 0.37
Italy SI $ 0.29
Italy OM $ 0.23
Italy WI $ 0.20
Netherlands TM $ 0.48
Norway TM $ 0.48
Philippines SR $ 0.18
Philippines GT $ 0.58
Russia NW $ 0.34
Singapore M1 $ 0.07
Singapore ST $ 0.08
Sweden IQ $ 0.51
UK Cellnet $ 0.48
UK Voda $ 0.39

As you can see one Phillipines net is $0.18 and one is as high as $0.58

They are also subject to change due to the overseas cost being subject to
change at any time

Charges quite often land quickly but can take months
John Phillips - 10 Jun 2004 11:52 GMT
> The missus flew out to the US yesterday. At 5am this morning, she SMSes
> me from LAX telling me she arrived. Half awake, I SMS her back and she
> received the text. I then rang her. After I pressed send, I heard the
> international tones you get when you ring O/S.

Just a word of warning - don't turn on your 'phone in the immigration /
customs area at US airports, or it may get confiscated.

Flew BA to LAX from London and they announced this was a US Government
directive - didn't feel like turning mine on to see if it was being enforced
at all.

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Whytoi - 11 Jun 2004 07:26 GMT
> Just a word of warning - don't turn on your 'phone in the immigration /
> customs area at US airports, or it may get confiscated.
>
> Flew BA to LAX from London and they announced this was a US Government
> directive - didn't feel like turning mine on to see if it was being enforced
> at all.

Yep, US immigration/custom is one of the least welcome area in the
whole of the US. It's distinctively nasty.

And only if I have a way to catch the return flight immediately...  ;)
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The Family - 21 Jun 2004 18:47 GMT
> > The missus flew out to the US yesterday. At 5am this morning, she SMSes
> > me from LAX telling me she arrived. Half awake, I SMS her back and she
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Just a word of warning - don't turn on your 'phone in the immigration /
> customs area at US airports, or it may get confiscated.

Same in Australia, where it's also a criminal offence and carries a $1,000
fine too.

> Flew BA to LAX from London and they announced this was a US Government
> directive - didn't feel like turning mine on to see if it was being enforced
> at all.
John Phillips - 21 Jun 2004 20:18 GMT
>> Just a word of warning - don't turn on your 'phone in the immigration /
>> customs area at US airports, or it may get confiscated.

> Same in Australia, where it's also a criminal offence and carries a $1,000
> fine too.

At least in Oz (or at least in Sydney) you can turn it on in the baggage
area without trouble.

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Whytoi - 22 Jun 2004 00:04 GMT
> At least in Oz (or at least in Sydney) you can turn it on in the baggage
> area without trouble.

Sure about that? True that I have seen people on the phone there. But
on the post, there's a sign that prohibits the use mobile phone. Maybe
it got turned into an unenforceable practical matter.

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Charlie Wong - 22 Jun 2004 02:08 GMT
>Sure about that? True that I have seen people on the phone there. But
>on the post, there's a sign that prohibits the use mobile phone. Maybe
>it got turned into an unenforceable practical matter.

On the way out Qantas allows phones to be used reven inside the cabin
until some point during the prep for take-off. They made a policy
change last year I believe.
Whytoi - 22 Jun 2004 10:00 GMT
> >Sure about that? True that I have seen people on the phone there. But
> >on the post, there's a sign that prohibits the use mobile phone. Maybe
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> until some point during the prep for take-off. They made a policy
> change last year I believe.

Yes, that rule change is now pretty widespread, even in the US these
days.

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Martin Taylor - 24 Jun 2004 07:47 GMT
Whytoi said....

>> On the way out Qantas allows phones to be used reven inside the cabin
>> until some point during the prep for take-off. They made a policy
>> change last year I believe.

> Yes, that rule change is now pretty widespread, even in the US these
> days.

When the missus was returning to Oz on the weekend, the aircraft was
delayed during taxying (JFK) for nearly an hour. As soon as the captain
made the announcement, everyone dragged out their mobiles and started
calling people. The FAs had to make them turn 'em off again, with a few
of them being stroppy about it.
Whytoi - 24 Jun 2004 09:00 GMT
> Whytoi said....
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> calling people. The FAs had to make them turn 'em off again, with a few
> of them being stroppy about it.

Yes, it would still depend on the airline. Officially on UA, you are
now permitted to call once the plane is off the active runway following
landing. But the Captain still has the final say on this and the new
rules does not apply to departing flights.

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John Phillips - 24 Jun 2004 10:47 GMT
> When the missus was returning to Oz on the weekend, the aircraft was
> delayed during taxying (JFK) for nearly an hour. As soon as the captain
> made the announcement, everyone dragged out their mobiles and started
> calling people. The FAs had to make them turn 'em off again, with a few
> of them being stroppy about it.

Was that with Qantas?  US airlines don't seem to care.

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the noses of your friends.
Martin Taylor - 25 Jun 2004 05:58 GMT
John Phillip said....

> Was that with Qantas?  US airlines don't seem to care.

United Airlines. Flight from JFK to LAX.
John Phillips - 22 Jun 2004 09:50 GMT
> Sure about that? True that I have seen people on the phone there. But
> on the post, there's a sign that prohibits the use mobile phone. Maybe
> it got turned into an unenforceable practical matter.

There is a sign in immigration (going out), haven't seen one in immigration
(coming in) and the sign in the baggage area has long gone.  Probably found
they couldn't control all the punters ringing home.

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Whytoi - 22 Jun 2004 10:01 GMT
> There is a sign in immigration (going out), haven't seen one in immigration
> (coming in) and the sign in the baggage area has long gone.  Probably found
> they couldn't control all the punters ringing home.

Yes, a hard urge to resist.

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Michael - 24 Jun 2004 11:19 GMT
We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard
John Phillips - 24 Jun 2004 11:29 GMT
> We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard

Ignorant turd.  These are generated by a tagline programme.

Go back to your Tel$tra shell, now that's a good boy.

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Michael - 24 Jun 2004 13:45 GMT
> > We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard
>
> Ignorant turd.  These are generated by a tagline programme.

I dont care what kind of f.ck-tard program you have running.
Albinus - 24 Jun 2004 12:23 GMT
> We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard

Hmm.... there are quite a few parkways in Brisbane. Back to the dunnies,
boy.
Albert Alcoceba - 25 Jun 2004 12:49 GMT
>> We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard
>
>Hmm.... there are quite a few parkways in Brisbane. Back to the dunnies,
>boy.

And Sydney... Wakehurst Parkway, Conemarra Parkway, Quakers Hill
Parkway are just three that spring to mind.

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Martin Taylor - 27 Jun 2004 14:12 GMT
Michael said....

>> > Ever notice we park in driveways and drive on parkways?

> We dont have parkways in Oz. Stop being a seppo w.nker try hard

What happened to this "global thinking" concept of yours?

In any case, we do have parkways in Oz.
John Phillips - 27 Jun 2004 19:44 GMT
> What happened to this "global thinking" concept of yours?

Still waiting for "Michael" to admit he is wrong.

Not holding my breath though.

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Michael - 28 Jun 2004 10:33 GMT
> > What happened to this "global thinking" concept of yours?
>
> Still waiting for "Michael" to admit he is wrong.
>
> Not holding my breath though.

Hi there,
I was wrong. We clearly do have parkways in Australia. Thank god its a wanky
Sydney/Brisbane (Brisvegas) American-style w.nk.

We dont have them in victoria. And thats what counts
John Phillips - 28 Jun 2004 11:05 GMT
> We dont have them in victoria

That is a brave statement to make!

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Michael - 28 Jun 2004 11:28 GMT
> > We dont have them in victoria
>
> That is a brave statement to make!

Really?
Lets be honest here, does it matter anyway?
Remember people - newsgroups are NOT your life
Rod Speed - 28 Jun 2004 22:11 GMT
> > On Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 23:12:52 Sunday, 27 June 2004 (where I live),
> "Martin Taylor" wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I was wrong. We clearly do have parkways in Australia. Thank god its a wanky
> Sydney/Brisbane (Brisvegas) American-style w.nk.

> We dont have them in victoria.

Wrong. As always.

> And thats what counts

Wrong. As always.
Michael - 29 Jun 2004 12:49 GMT
> > > On Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 23:12:52 Sunday, 27 June 2004 (where I live),
> > "Martin Taylor" wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Wrong. As always.

Rod, we got past this yesterday, Youre a bit behind
Rod Speed - 29 Jun 2004 21:21 GMT
> > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oBRDc.68555$sj4.53709@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> >
> > Wrong. As always.

> Rod, we got past this yesterday,

Another lie.

> Youre a bit behind

You're the one into behinds, fuckwit dunnychild.
 
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