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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / June 2004Telstra push-to-talk pricing launched
FYI. - Free of charge until 30/9/04 (limit of 500 min/month) - From 1/10/04, choice of - $50/month unlimited usage OR - 1c/second for person-to-person, 2c/second for person-to-group Given recent pre-paid voice offers and some capped deals, the pricing doesn't look that competitive. At least it seems there's no flagfall. I guess if some people really find the person-to-group app useful, they'll pay what's charged. Telstra media release http://www.telstra.com.au/communications/media/mediareleases_article.cfm?ObjectI D=31931 Telstra unveils walkie-talkie style service pricing ZDNet.com.au http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/0,2000061791,39151156,00.htm Telstra announces pricing for Push to Talk Sydney Morning Herald http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/22/1087844906231.html > FYI. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Given recent pre-paid voice offers and some capped deals, the pricing > doesn't look that competitive. At least it seems there's no flagfall. Competitive to what?? Push-to-talk over GPRS will cause a significant percentage of industry that uses 2-way radios to migrate over to cellular PTT networks. It's not designed to compete with cheap circuit switched voice offers. It will save some companies a considerable amount of money by replacing very expensive trunking network and spectrum licencing fees. Everyone else will just use it for its novelty value. > I guess if some people really find the person-to-group app useful, > they'll pay what's charged. > > Telstra media release http://www.telstra.com.au/communications/media/mediareleases_article.cfm?ObjectI D=31931 > Telstra unveils walkie-talkie style service pricing > ZDNet.com.au [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sydney Morning Herald > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/22/1087844906231.html > Competitive to what?? One-to-one 'traditional' mobile voice telephony. As I alluded to below - given that the nominal pricing isn't *that* cheap, the person-to-group app will be the differentiator. And that specific market won't be particularly price sensitive if that's the feature it needs. > > I guess if some people really find the person-to-group app useful, > > they'll pay what's charged. > > Competitive to what?? > One-to-one 'traditional' mobile voice telephony. As I alluded to below - Its not meant to compete to the above. Its something completely different >>FYI. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > uses 2-way radios to migrate over to cellular PTT networks. It's not > designed to compete with cheap circuit switched voice offers. True, with half-duplex it's more like 2-way radio than telephony. > Everyone else will just use it for its novelty value. eg. Like SMS did earlier, it could become popular with kids. It is more like a Voice SMS than a call. At 1 cent/second, a 20 second rant is cheaper than a SMS. A 1-second exclamation is even cheaper. And talking into your phone is quicker, easier and allows more spontaneity than texting. Texting will still have the advantange that, that it gets stored in your phone so you can read later. > >>FYI. > >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > It is more like a Voice SMS than a call. > ... Don't forget some of the other features of PTT - its much like ICQ - you can see which of your contacts are 'online' (i.e. have their phones on) and see their status (i.e. DND). I have just returned from the States and I tell you, the PTT is huge over there. Everywhere you go you could see people talking into the phone like a walkie talkie. Taxi drivers and people in the service industries used it a lot too. > >>FYI. > >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > that it gets stored in your phone > so you can read later. > I have just returned from the States and I tell you, the PTT is huge over > there. Everywhere you go you could see people talking into the phone like a > walkie talkie. Taxi drivers and people in the service industries used it a > lot too. I think that is on the Nextel network. They use some proprietary Motorola system. Not sure if on any other network.  SignatureA friend in need is a pest indeed! > Competitive to what?? > Push-to-talk over GPRS will cause a significant percentage of industry that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trunking network and spectrum licencing fees. > Everyone else will just use it for its novelty value. Havn't seen any information on just how a major company would implement PTT however, I am sure a big company isn't going to manage groups via SMS configuration! It remains to be seen just how reliable and configurable it will be compared to trunking networks. Perhaps in a few years it will improve. Danny. > > Competitive to what?? > > Push-to-talk over GPRS will cause a significant percentage of industry [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Perhaps in a few years it will improve. What a w.nker you are Danny. The product is just being released in Aus and you just said "perhaps in a few years it will improve". You havent even seen it What a w.nker > Danny. Giles said.... > - From 1/10/04, choice of > - $50/month unlimited usage OR > - 1c/second for person-to-person, 2c/second for person-to-group I recall when this service was announced, I asked what the costs could be. Some pompous a.s replied, "if you have to ask, you can't afford it." It seems that the costs won't be all that expensive, if it's not used that much. Certainly, 60 cents a min. is currently a lot cheaper than some current call pricing structures. > Given recent pre-paid voice offers and some capped deals, the pricing > doesn't look that competitive. At least it seems there's no flagfall. Imagine that. "Mike to Shirley". Click. "Yes, Mike, what is it?" Click. "Can you pick up a slab of cans and a carton of smokes on your way home from the school?" click. "Yeah, OK, mutter, mutter.." Click. 70 cents flagfall charges (currently they're at around 35 cents) for each participant in that "call", for about 15 secs of airtime, if there were FF charges. For me, that'd probably be a lot cheaper than what I have now. Our phones are on 20 dollar plans, so calls are expensive. I'll have to read the articles, but I wonder if you can get 'push to talk' only plans, with no conventional mobile services. I'm thinking that this may be a cheaper alternative to those in workplace areas, who have to maintain expensive walkie talkie radios, repeaters and licences. Of course, reception would be an issue, and for us, it'd be useless. > Giles said.... > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > have to maintain expensive walkie talkie radios, repeaters and licences. > Of course, reception would be an issue, and for us, it'd be useless. For most people it would be fine. Telstra has excellent inbuilding coverage with GSM Michael said.... >> have to maintain expensive walkie talkie radios, repeaters and >> licences. >> Of course, reception would be an issue, and for us, it'd be useless. > For most people it would be fine. Telstra has excellent inbuilding > coverage with GSM Wish that was the case at work. Lots of concrete and steel doesn't do too well. It seems to have improved over the past coupla years. However, CDMA is a tad better, but not much. |
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