Sony Ericsson T610 Vs T630

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Adam - 25 Jun 2004 11:27 GMT

All,

What am I really getting if I buy a 630 over a 610?

I need to upgrade my R520m and there are good deals on the 610 available
now.

Regards.

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Malcolm Function - 25 Jun 2004 11:57 GMT

> All,
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> Regards.

A readable screen is the main thing. The T610 had numerous minor complaints
that were improved by the T630, the primary one being the considerable
improvement in viewing the T610s woeful display outdoors. Many also
complained about poor reception on the T610 (don't know if this was as bad
on Australian networks as OS) and this was apparently enhanced. Likewise
Bluetooth on the T610 was 'quirky' but this may or may not matter to you.
The other major differences are cosmetic. If it were me, I'd be inclined to
go the extra yard and get the T630, all the moreso since it's also starting
to feature in some pretty good promotions. Out of interest, what kind of
deal were you looking at for the T610?

Check out
http://www.imobile.com.au/PhoneReviews/default.asp?ID=reviewsmay0401 and
http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=572&source=ARCHIVE or do a search
for "T630 review" on www.google.com for tons more info.

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Brendon - 25 Jun 2004 12:27 GMT

> Many also complained about poor reception on the T610
> (don't know if this was as bad on Australian networks as OS)

I can vouch for the poor reception on a T610.

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Albinus - 25 Jun 2004 13:47 GMT

> I can vouch for the poor reception on a T610.

Is it just this one model or all later Sony Ericsson handsets? The old
Ericsson handsets (A1018s and earlier) used to have fantastic reception -
hope this problem is just related to the T610.

Albinus.

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streetwise - 25 Jun 2004 15:21 GMT

T610 is notorious for reception problems,

do a Google with this, "poor reception T610" and read the forums etc.

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matrokr - 26 Jun 2004 08:38 GMT

similar complaints were made of the earlier t68i, which seems fixed with more
recent software upgrades - maybe a t610 with the latest software will fix
this problem?

>T610 is notorious for reception problems,
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Michael - 26 Jun 2004 00:36 GMT

> > I can vouch for the poor reception on a T610.
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> Albinus.

The A1018 did NOT have great reception. I have seen tens of examples of
crapshit reception on them. They were WORSE than the 628 they replaced. The
A1018 was one to avoid. Even the Phillips G450 was better

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Albinus - 26 Jun 2004 03:39 GMT

> The A1018 did NOT have great reception. I have seen tens of examples of
> crapshit reception on them. They were WORSE than the 628 they replaced.

IME quite the opposite - and I have three of them. Once the software bugs
were fixed, they were a very durable and reliable phone. It's just a pity
the software took so long to fix - but that was par for the course with
Ericsson in 1999. Apparantly since the merger with Sony the software has
progressed in leaps and bounds.

Albinus.

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Michael - 26 Jun 2004 11:42 GMT

> > The A1018 did NOT have great reception. I have seen tens of examples of
> > crapshit reception on them. They were WORSE than the 628 they replaced.
>
> IME quite the opposite - and I have three of them. Once the software bugs
> were fixed, they were a very durable and reliable phone. It's just a pity

"Once the software bugs were fixed" - no good to those that bought them
early and ran out of warranty

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Rod Speed - 26 Jun 2004 21:47 GMT

>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

>>> The A1018 did NOT have great reception. I have seen tens of examples of
>>> crapshit reception on them. They were WORSE than the 628 they replaced.

>> IME quite the opposite - and I have three of them. Once the software bugs
>> were fixed, they were a very durable and reliable phone. It's just a pity

> "Once the software bugs were fixed" - no good to
> those that bought them early and ran out of warranty

Not a f.cking clue, as always. There is no time limit on
bugs that were in the phone when supplied, dunnychild.

That's the law. Like it or lump it.

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Michael - 27 Jun 2004 02:12 GMT

> >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
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> That's the law. Like it or lump it.

Sorry Rod, but its not as simple as that. It took a very large stick to be
applied to Nokia before they would recognise this and fix the 8210.
You cant just march it and state "this is a design fault, fix it". It just
doesnt work that way.

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Rod Speed - 27 Jun 2004 03:10 GMT

> > >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
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> > That's the law. Like it or lump it.

> Sorry Rod, but its not as simple as that.

Wrong. As always.

> It took a very large stick to be applied to Nokia
> before they would recognise this and fix the 8210.

They eventually asked their lawyers
and got told that thats the law, fuckwit.

If it wasnt the law, they could have
stonewalled the NSW DFT forever, fuckwit.

> You cant just march it and state
> "this is a design fault, fix it".

Corse you can.

> It just doesnt work that way.

You may need to bludgeon them with the law, because
so many fools like your are completely pig ignorant
about the law. Trivial to do using the small claims system
if they dont have a f.cking clue and ask their own lawyers.

Like it or lump it.

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Michael - 27 Jun 2004 04:03 GMT

> > > >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
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> They eventually asked their lawyers
> and got told that thats the law, fuckwit.

Yes.
But one man alone in a repair centre asking for his 8210 to be fixed out of
warranty would be laughed at.

> If it wasnt the law, they could have
> stonewalled the NSW DFT forever, fuckwit.

No one said it wasnt the law. Its simply that one consumer
alone cant apply the law. There's law and there's the REAL WORLD.
Your grasp of the real world isnt too accurate at times

> > You cant just march it and state
> > "this is a design fault, fix it".
>
> Corse you can.

You can try

> > It just doesnt work that way.
>
> You may need to bludgeon them with the law, because
> so many fools like your are completely pig ignorant
> about the law. Trivial to do using the small claims system
> if they dont have a f.cking clue and ask their own lawyers.

Rod, fixing your phone is economical up to maybe $200-$300 of repairs, phone
dependant, plan dependant.

No one with a decent job has the time, and therefore money, to use the small
claims systems or get the DFT to apply a big stick

4 hours of my own time cross the economic point boundary and thus it wouldnt
be worth it

> Like it or lump it.

The consumer basically lumps it, and moves on.

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Rod Speed - 27 Jun 2004 04:26 GMT

> > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oapDc.66089$sj4.16261@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
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> > They eventually asked their lawyers
> > and got told that thats the law, fuckwit.

> Yes.
> But one man alone in a repair centre asking for his
> 8210 to be fixed out of warranty would be laughed at.

They wont be laughing when anyone with a clue uses
the small claims system to f.ck them over, fuckwit.

What would actually happen is that the fuckwit counter
monkey would ask their managers/lawyers when they
were threatened the small claims system and get their
nose rubbed in the law and fix its regardless of warranty.

>> If it wasnt the law, they could have
>> stonewalled the NSW DFT forever, fuckwit.

> No one said it wasnt the law. Its simply that
> one consumer alone cant apply the law.

Not a f.cking clue, as always.

> There's law and there's the REAL WORLD.

Nope, there's the small claims system which rubs pig ignorant
fuckwit counter monkey's noses in the law in the real world, fuckwit.

> Your grasp of the real world isnt too accurate at times

Not a f.cking clue, as always.

I've done it, fuckwit.

>>> You cant just march it and state
>>> "this is a design fault, fix it".

>> Corse you can.

> You can try

Anyone with a clue succeeds, too.

Then there's pig ignorant fuckwits like you and your ilk.

>>> It just doesnt work that way.

>> You may need to bludgeon them with the law, because
>> so many fools like your are completely pig ignorant
>> about the law. Trivial to do using the small claims system
>> if they dont have a f.cking clue and ask their own lawyers.

> Rod, fixing your phone is economical up to maybe
> $200-$300 of repairs, phone dependant, plan dependant.

Pity about that fix being free, fuckwit.

> No one with a decent job has the time, and
> therefore money, to use the small claims systems

Not a f.cking clue, as always. All you normally need to do is
to THREATEN to use the small claims system thats normally
all it takes for the fuckwit counter monkey to get of its fat arse
and see what management has to say about the threat, and if
management is so stupid that they cant grasp the law, their
lawyers will put them straight on that, quick smart.

> or get the DFT to apply a big stick

Not a f.cking clue, as always.

> 4 hours of my own time cross the economic
> point boundary and thus it wouldnt be worth it

Doesnt take anything like that to THREATEN them with the
small claims system, you stupid pig ignorant fuckwit dunnychild.

No wonder you dont get anywhere near
anything more challenging than the dunnys.

>> Like it or lump it.

> The consumer basically lumps it, and moves on.

Only the pig ignorant fuckwits like you.

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Albinus - 28 Jun 2004 08:43 GMT

> "Once the software bugs were fixed" - no good to those that bought them
> early and ran out of warranty

Nobody did run out of warranty - the bugs were fixed well and truly before
12 months post phone release. Some were so severe they had to be done almost
immediately - freezing and constant (several times a day) rebooting - not
nice.

In any case Rod is right about getting it done - most people don't know
their rights on this however.

Albinus.

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Adam - 25 Jun 2004 23:48 GMT

All,

Thankyou for your responses.

Since I like good reception, and am used to it from a history of Ericsson
phones, I need the 630.

The good deals on the 610 are from Voda and include a bluetooth headset.
For $400 this is a good deal when the best I can get a 630 for is $450 off
eBay (Australian Dealer, less from Singers).

Any more information out there, please drop it on the NG or email me. The
correct email is not that hard if you remove the not, and make it bigpond
com au.

Cheers,

Adam.

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Malcolm Function - 26 Jun 2004 00:23 GMT

> All,
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> correct email is not that hard if you remove the not, and make it bigpond
> com au.

Email Schmemail. Any worthwhile information should be posted in here for
everyone's benefit.

One of the better deals I've seen around is with Virgin who will give you
the T630 for nix if you commit to their $30 or better plan for 24 months.

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John Phillips - 27 Jun 2004 02:57 GMT

> Email Schmemail. Any worthwhile information should be posted in here for
> everyone's benefit.

Agreed. That is what the news group is for - so we can all benefit (and
then we can all flame ha ha)

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streetwise - 26 Jun 2004 07:46 GMT

go the extra mile and try a SE Z600, great phone!

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