I was wondering if any of you guys could provide some advice as to my
options re upgrading mobile handsets with pre-paid cards.
I have an old Nokia 3310 from a couple of years ago which I use with Optus
pre-paid. The phone is past the 12 or 18 month minimum so it is no longer
locked with Optus.
Anyway, I was thinking of upgrading my handset to something
newer/smaller/lighter. I don't want to buy a really expensive mobile
outright, so I was looking at the existing deals Optus has with pre-paid and
was thinking about getting the Sony Ericsson T230 which was $139. But I
assume this is for new pre-paid customers. Does anyone know if I could get
this handset and still keep my currentSIM or my current number? What other
options are available to existing pre-paid customers?
Ideally, I was thinking I could buy the handset I wanted for the $139, and
just plug in my old pre-paid SIM into it. Then I could either use the new
SIM, or buy a SIM only starter kit, stick in the old Nokia and give the
phone to my younger sister. But I suspect the new handset will be SIM-locked
or something.
What about if I change carriers to Telstra or Vodafone. Is it possible to
keep your old mobile number on pre-paid?
If any of you could provide any advice/suggestions, it would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Mike
[] - 23 Oct 2004 08:22 GMT
Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
thegoons - 23 Oct 2004 09:55 GMT
> Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
> Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
No because some carriers and some SIM-ranges within carriers lock the
specific SIM card to the phone, ie: additional locking, not only locked to a
specific carrier.
Anthony Horan - 25 Oct 2004 05:45 GMT
>> Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
>> Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
>
> No because some carriers and some SIM-ranges within carriers lock the
> specific SIM card to the phone, ie: additional locking, not only locked to a
> specific carrier.
Optus doesn't do any additional locking, at least, not on Nokias.
- Anthony
Jeremy Quirke - 25 Oct 2004 12:40 GMT
> > Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
> > Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
>
> No because some carriers and some SIM-ranges within carriers lock the
> specific SIM card to the phone, ie: additional locking, not only locked to a
> specific carrier.
No they don't. That's not even very easily implementable by the GSM
specifications (at the SIM-ME level).
And why would they lock the SIM to a specific phone anyway?
thegoons - 25 Oct 2004 13:41 GMT
> > > Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
> > > Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
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>
> And why would they lock the SIM to a specific phone anyway?
Optus HAVE done that before. So have Vodafone. The feauture was sold as a
"security feature" so that even if somebody on the same carrier stole your
handset, it could not be used. I guess this has probably been less relevant
now that unlocking devices have become commonplace.
Michael - 26 Oct 2004 10:11 GMT
> > > Can't you just buy a new pre-paid handet on the same network you're on?
> > > Discard the new SIM card but use the recharge card (number) supplied.
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> No they don't. That's not even very easily implementable by the GSM
> specifications (at the SIM-ME level).
Rubbish. Its been done before in Aus
> And why would they lock the SIM to a specific phone anyway?
So that the phone uses the prepaid SIM and not any other SIM,sily
Pete - 23 Oct 2004 08:34 GMT
> Does anyone know if I could get this handset and still keep my
> current SIM or my current number?
As far as I'm aware, you can always keep your existing phone number.
I've done it with Telstra, Optus, Virgin, and iSim. If you're in doubt,
confirm it with whoever you buy the phone from, and if you're still in
doubt, get them to write it on the invoice.
By the way, I have a T230, and I hate it. The keys are too small, the
phone is too small, and it's very different in operation to the Nokia
you're used to.
> What about if I change carriers to Telstra or Vodafone. Is it possible to
> keep your old mobile number on pre-paid?
Yes, in my experience.
However, I might add that sometimes it can take far longer than you'd
like - my port from Optus prepaid to Virgin prepaid (or was it the other
way, I can't recall now, lol) took a week! And Optus and Virgin are
actually the same physical network! I jumped up and down about it and
got a $20 credit, so I can't really complain.
One other thing you might like to bear in mind - it's been my experience
that locked phones can still be used with other phone companies who use
the same network. For example, Optus, Virgin and iSim all use the same
network, so a phone that is advertised as locked to one of those
companies may actually work on one of the other networks.
Peter
Giles - 23 Oct 2004 09:54 GMT
> Does anyone know if I could get
> this handset and still keep my currentSIM or my current number? What other
> options are available to existing pre-paid customers?
http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1038_34776-3_6737--View_354
,FF.html
There are Optus Pre-Paid 'upgrade packs' that contain no SIM, but $20 in
calls (versus $10 in most 'new customer' packs). The T230 isn't
specifically advertised, but just ask at an Optus World or Optus dealer.
If you're just after a smaller, lighter basic phone, Vodafone sells the Sony
Ericsson T105 for $69, unlocked. It also comes with a $30 red SIM pack that
you could pass on to your sister if you've already contacted Optus to have
the Nokia unlocked.
thegoons - 23 Oct 2004 09:58 GMT
If it helps, it is my understanding that all Vodafone prepaid packs come
with handsets that are unlocked. The Panasonic A100 is a nice little handset
(low on features though) for only $129 unlocked.
If you are happy with the Optus rates, stay with them and put the Optus SIM
into the Vodafone handset. Otherwise you could port your number over to
Vodafone.
If you want a new Optus prepaid pack, and your existing SIM will not work on
the new handset, then call Optus and get them to transfer it. If they say it
cannot be done, then just buy a starter kit from another network, port over
to them, then port back to Optus, keeping your same number.
> I was wondering if any of you guys could provide some advice as to my
> options re upgrading mobile handsets with pre-paid cards.
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>
> Mike
Tom N - 26 Oct 2004 05:51 GMT
> If you want a new Optus prepaid pack, and your existing SIM will not
> work on the new handset, then call Optus and get them to transfer it.
> If they say it cannot be done, then just buy a starter kit from
> another network, port over to them, then port back to Optus, keeping
> your same number.
Existing Optus SIM should work in an Optus prepaid pack. Wife is
currently with Optus Usage Only (i.e. off contract) and I asked at Optus
shop about getting a new phone (e.g. Nokia 1100 or 3315). They directed me
to a prepaid pack at $99 and $79 respectively and said the existing Optus
SIM would work in them (they are network locked). Also available at the
post office. Obviously you don't get to use the $10 credit that comes with
the prepaid unless you activate the prepaid SIM (with a different phone
number).