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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / November 2004best carrier for text/smser?
my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best deal going these days? cheers guys rob >my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best >deal going these days? Orange Just Go SMS - see <www.orange.net.au> - Call rate = 18¢ per 30 seconds (plus 18¢ flagfall) - Domestic SMS = 11¢ - International SMS = 22¢ what network do orange use? > >my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > >deal going these days? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > - Domestic SMS = 11¢ > - International SMS = 22¢ > what network do orange use? Their own in Sydney and Melburg, and Telstra outside that. They wont sign you up if you're outside Sydney or Melburg. >> >my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the > best [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> - Domestic SMS = 11¢ >> - International SMS = 22¢ > > what network do orange use? > > Their own in Sydney and Melburg ...and Newcastle/Lower Hunter and the Central Coast and the Blue Mountains and Wollongong and Werribee and Geelong and... > > > what network do orange use? > > > > Their own in Sydney and Melburg > > ...and Newcastle/Lower Hunter and the Central Coast and the Blue Mountains > and Wollongong and Werribee and Geelong and... Werribee = Melbourne I have no idea why they have Werribee listed as seperate on some of their spiel > > > > what network do orange use? > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Werribee = Melbourne Maybe, but I'm not from Melburg. Newcastle/Maitland, Gosford and The Gong aint part of Sydney though. > > what network do orange use? > > Their own in Sydney and Melburg, and Telstra outside that. Telstra CDMA (not Telstra GSM, as many would assume). Their own network is, obviously, also CDMA. PD  SignaturePaul Day Web: www.bur.st/~paul GPG Key ID: 7FF655A8 > > > what network do orange use? > > > > Their own in Sydney and Melburg, and Telstra outside that. > > Telstra CDMA (not Telstra GSM, as many would assume). Their own network > is, obviously, also CDMA. Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo". > >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? > > Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo". No lingo, its the basics > > >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? > > > > Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo". > > No lingo, its the basics The basics for the average consumer: It's a phone, I ring people on it. I submit that your average consumer with no interest in mobiles other than using them and paying the bill dosnt give a sh.t about the name of the technology in which it operates, which networks have roaming agreements with each other, and which phone types can or can't talk to which network types. Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know it as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and CDMA, but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not roam to a GSM network and even less of an idea that Orange is a CDMA network (Telstra use the term CDMA when referring to the network, Orange don't). >Telstra use the term CDMA when referring to the network I notice that Telstra recently (again) dropped using "CDMA" after the model name in print ads. I guess that CDMA was scaring too many customers. > > > >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The basics for the average consumer: It's a phone, I ring people on it. Your network type is extremely basic > using them and paying the bill dosnt give a sh.t about the name of the > technology in which it operates, which networks have roaming agreements with > each other, and which phone types can or can't talk to which network types. Crapshit. Consumers always want to know where the phone works, and that is controlled largely by roaming agreements > Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know it > as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and CDMA, > but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not roam to a > GSM network and even less of an idea that Orange is a CDMA network (Telstra > use the term CDMA when referring to the network, Orange don't). Orange's problem > Your network type is extremely basic They might know that it's a 'digital'or 'CDMA' but they are just terms used because they are told. They have no idea of how they actually work or the compatability between them. > Crapshit. Consumers always want to know where the phone works, and that is > controlled largely by roaming agreements Yeah, the provider provides maps or a website or a customer service line... Michael said.... > Crapshit. Consumers always want to know where the phone works, and that > is controlled largely by roaming agreements That's true. But the customers don't necessarily give a sh.t about how it's done. Just as long as it's meeting their requirements. If they see a signal, and the phone works, then they're happy. SignatureSupport bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. Brendon said.... > Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know > it as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and > CDMA, but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not > roam to a GSM network Nor do they need to know. All they need to know is if it will suit their needs, and that's the role of the sales person who's flogging them the phone to give them that advice. Of course, it's good consumer advice to research your needs before you go out and buy it. I would imagine that if you plonked the average consumer down in front of a PC and got them to read through this newsgroup, they'd probably think, "Who gives a f.ck about all this sh.t that these pricks are on about?" and would most likely mutter something about getting a life.... SignatureSupport bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. > I would imagine that if you plonked the average consumer down in front > of a PC and got them to read through this newsgroup, they'd probably > think, "Who gives a f.ck about all this sh.t that these pricks are on > about?" and would most likely mutter something about getting a life.... Bingo. We are in here talking about it like we do because we have a greater interest in the subject. Yep, here i am asking a question about plan/rates, i know what gsm/cdma/cdma1x/3g etc technologies are, I even work for telstra.. I still think u guys need to get out more :) cheers rob > Brendon said.... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. Mr said.... > Yep, here i am asking a question about plan/rates, i know what > gsm/cdma/cdma1x/3g etc technologies are, I even work for telstra.. I'm aware of the differing standards (GSM and CDMA). Other than that and the (lack of) interoperability between the two, and that there are tri-band GSM phones, I know bugger all about the technology, nor do I need or wish to know. I don't really know much about the connectivity side of things, other than Bluetooth for operating with the Nokia software for the missus' PC, and that my phone, a Nokia 2280, requires a DKU-3 or 5 cable to connect it to the PC and that it requires a CARK-126 car kit. It has either WAP or GPRS for connecting to the 'net, something that I don't use. And I don't care about that. All I require from the phone is that it works, that I can send an SMS using predictive text and that I can easily back up and edit the phone book to/from the PC. However, I do miss the IR feature that my defunct 6385 had. I read this forum for info on new phones, how the networks are expanding, etc.. In other words, I'm a casual observer, if you will, of this newsgroup. > I still think u guys need to get out more :) Especially those who get all passionate over pedantic issues on how the networks function. Unless you're a major investor in Optus or Telstra Mobile, or whatever, then really, they're non-issues. And as I said in a previous note, most people would say, "who gives a f.ck about this stuff?" There's more to life than arguing on an internet forum about mobile phones. But then, there are those who do get their jollies from trying to dump on others from a great height when they perceive others as having made an incorrect statement about something or other. AND they call them fuckwits or whatever for such a trivial and insignificant thing. SignatureEveryone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. > > Telstra CDMA (not Telstra GSM, as many would assume). Their own network > > is, obviously, also CDMA. > > Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM? Not everyone knows Orange = CDMA? I've had people assume it was just another GSM network roams onto Telstra's national GSM network. PD SignaturePaul Day Web: www.bur.st/~paul GPG Key ID: 7FF655A8 > my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > deal going these days? iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms see www.isim.com.au >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms Not bad if you like paying 35¢ for International SMS. Same SMS on Orange is 22¢. At least with Orange you can reast easy knowing that they have a habit of grandfathering old plans - once you have a plan they don't change the rates. In 5 years of monitoring Orange, they've only changed one rate, on one plan. They increased the cost of untimed local calls on the "Orange One" and "Handset 2+" plans from 16¢ to 18¢. > At least with Orange you can reast easy knowing that they have a habit > of grandfathering old plans - once you have a plan they don't change > the rates. Of course that's dependant on whether or not you can actually get Orange where you live. If so then the argument is quite strong. Albinus. > >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > plan. They increased the cost of untimed local calls on the "Orange > One" and "Handset 2+" plans from 16¢ to 18¢. On the prepaid with the HomeZone thingy they changed the local call rate twice > >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > plan. They increased the cost of untimed local calls on the "Orange > One" and "Handset 2+" plans from 16¢ to 18¢. Voda the same. I just gave up an old rate for one of their new buckets but previously been on same historic rate for about nine years (no connection fees, cheap text, etc) with the only change being GST > > >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but previously been on same historic rate for about nine years (no > connection fees, cheap text, etc) with the only change being GST Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra >Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra I didn't say they weren't. > >Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra > > I didn't say they weren't. Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your mouth too much bathsuck,jpg i think >Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your mouth >too much bathsuck,jpg i think Not enough perhaps? > >Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your mouth > >too much bathsuck,jpg i think > > Not enough perhaps? thats quite possible :-) I have a Telstra member plan with the free text option, bundled on a single bill for the free 125 sms a month. Of course its only good if your texting telstra mobiles, but at 15c to any carrier its something to consider. I send over 300 sms a month and still haven't payed for one. > my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > deal going these days? > > cheers guys > > rob > I have a Telstra member plan with the free text option, bundled on a > single bill for the free 125 sms a month. Of course its only good if > your texting telstra mobiles, but at 15c to any carrier its something to > consider. I send over 300 sms a month and still haven't payed for one. Your 125 free sms can be M2F or F2M if your home phone is compatible. telstra also have their freetext - 200 free to telstra mobiles between 8pm and 5am...and 15c to other carriers at all times. > > my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > > deal going these days? > > > > cheers guys > > > > rob "3" Pre-Paid give 150 SMSs free (use within 45 days) whenever you recharge! > my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > deal going these days? > > cheers guys > > rob >"3" Pre-Paid give 150 SMSs free (use within 45 days) whenever you recharge! Wow, did you say a whole 45 days? Amazing stuff. The stated use is 200 SMSs /month and further recharging within 45 days allows the unused SMSs to be accumulated to 600. Good luck to them, I just make the cheapest calls on the First on Three plan. > >"3" Pre-Paid give 150 SMSs free (use within 45 days) whenever you recharge! > > Wow, did you say a whole 45 days? Amazing stuff. >The stated use is 200 SMSs /month and further recharging within 45 days >allows the unused SMSs to be accumulated to 600. Good luck to them, I just >make the cheapest calls on the First on Three plan. I prefer Business on 3 myself... quite nice at 9¢ per 30 seconds. The best for text is vodofone red sim when you top up with $50 , you get 500 free text for two months > my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best > deal going these days? > > cheers guys > > rob Vodafone Red Sim. TXT'er Plan probably. |
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