> Is it possible to view a signal strength or a readout for GPRS reception? I
> have a Nokia 6610i and my understanding is the signal strength shown on
> screen is not indicative GPRS reception.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
Further to this, is the connection to the GPRS network made using the same
phone antenna system as the one used for voice calls? The reason I ask is
that I have had spiratic access to the GPRS network both at home and at
work, where both normally work without a problem. The reception indicator
shows full service and there are no dramas with voice calls. I use Vodafone
and they have reported no network outages or the like in either areas -
likewise with others I know on Vodafone, so I believe there may be something
wrong with the phone.
Paul remove-the-nospam Day - 28 Nov 2004 06:31 GMT
> Further to this, is the connection to the GPRS network made using the same
> phone antenna system as the one used for voice calls?
Yes. My understanding of GPRS is it simply uses idle voice channels for
packet communications. As the spare voice channels get filled up on a
busy cell, GPRS's through-put drops/dies.
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Jeremy Quirke - 28 Nov 2004 07:20 GMT
>> Is it possible to view a signal strength or a readout for GPRS reception?
> I
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> something
> wrong with the phone.
For those interested:
At the RF path, provided the BTS supports GPRS (as almost all do), the
signal strength will be the same. However at higher levels, GPRS Cell
reselection can be different to GSM Cell reselection. Cell reselection when
GPRS is supported is somewhat more complex, and depends on operator
parameters (particularly presence of PCCCH/PBCCH, MS Class, etc). In the
case where PBCCH is used the operator is free to set different parameters
regarding weighting of cells, minimum required RSS, etc, etc. This is also
the case when the network sends PACKET_CELL_CHANGE_ORDER or
PACKET_MEASUREMENT_ORDER.
In the case of Australia, no operator uses PCCCH so the standard GSM 05.08
Clause 6 cell reselection procedures apply, when in idle more, except in
some of the states when GPRS attached when the network may order otherwise.
For those interested, support for the PCCCH can be activated in some Nokia
phones by entering the code *#pcc0#.
Now putting the technical stuff aside, it sounds more likely you have a
buggy firmware in your handset, which I would suggest having upgraded, free
under warranty.
Jabba - 29 Nov 2004 05:37 GMT
> > Is it possible to view a signal strength or a readout for GPRS reception?
> I
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> likewise with others I know on Vodafone, so I believe there may be something
> wrong with the phone.
Thanks to those who replied. I'll return to a Vodafone store when I get a
chance and see if they can either send it to get a new firmware flashed or
to get it repaired.
Can anybody advise who long it takes for Nokia to update the firmware?
Michael - 29 Nov 2004 09:32 GMT
> > > Is it possible to view a signal strength or a readout for GPRS
> reception?
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>
> Can anybody advise who long it takes for Nokia to update the firmware?
One day, usually the same day
Jabba - 29 Nov 2004 14:20 GMT
> > Can anybody advise who long it takes for Nokia to update the firmware?
>
> One day, usually the same day
Will a firmware upgrade involve me loosing data stored on the phone?
If so, can somebody suggest where I can find a (cheap) USB infrared adapter?
Rod Speed - 29 Nov 2004 17:17 GMT
>> > Can anybody advise who long it takes for Nokia to update the firmware?
>>
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>
> If so, can somebody suggest where I can find a (cheap) USB infrared adapter?
ebay.