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Vodafone $2 RRP pack: Whats the deal?

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Andy - 07 Dec 2004 06:29 GMT
I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
(I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
thegoons - 07 Dec 2004 06:57 GMT
Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.

>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
Brendon - 07 Dec 2004 10:59 GMT
> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.

You need to learn what those places do...
thegoons - 07 Dec 2004 11:39 GMT
Woolies are in this case an agent, selling telecommunications services on
behalf of Vodafone. Hence, the TIO is an appropriate course of action.
Generally, telecommunications consumer issues are handled by the Federal
body, rather than State/Territory Fair Trading agencies, hence the ACCC is
also appropriate for a complaint in this instance.

>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.
>
> You need to learn what those places do...
Rod Speed - 07 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT
> Woolies are in this case an agent, selling telecommunications services on
> behalf of Vodafone.

Wrong, as always. They're JUST selling a starter kit, fool.

Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO at all.

And retail operations arent under any legal obligation
to sell anything to anyone, just as long as they dont
discriminate on the basis of race etc.

As always, not a f.cking clue.

> Hence, the TIO is an appropriate course of action.

As always, not a f.cking clue.

> Generally, telecommunications consumer issues

Pity flogging a starter kit aint.

> are handled by the Federal body, rather than State/
> Territory Fair Trading agencies, hence the ACCC is also appropriate for a
> complaint in this instance.

As always, not a f.cking clue.

Its at most JUST a basic retail transaction, which the
state FT is responsible for, and retail operations arent
under any legal obligation to sell anything to anyone, just
as long as they dont discriminate on the basis of race etc.

>>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.
>>
>> You need to learn what those places do...
thegoons - 08 Dec 2004 09:16 GMT
>> Woolies are in this case an agent, selling telecommunications services on
>> behalf of Vodafone.
>
> Wrong, as always. They're JUST selling a starter kit, fool.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

> Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO at all.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

> And retail operations arent under any legal obligation
> to sell anything to anyone, just as long as they dont
> discriminate on the basis of race etc.
>
> As always, not a f.cking clue.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

>> Hence, the TIO is an appropriate course of action.
>
> As always, not a f.cking clue.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

>> Generally, telecommunications consumer issues
>
> Pity flogging a starter kit aint.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

>> are handled by the Federal body, rather than State/
>> Territory Fair Trading agencies, hence the ACCC is also appropriate for a
>> complaint in this instance.
>
> As always, not a f.cking clue.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

> Its at most JUST a basic retail transaction, which the
> state FT is responsible for, and retail operations arent
> under any legal obligation to sell anything to anyone, just
> as long as they dont discriminate on the basis of race etc.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

>>>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.
>>>
>>> You need to learn what those places do...
Rod Speed - 08 Dec 2004 09:42 GMT
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote

>>> Woolies are in this case an agent, selling telecommunications services on
>>> behalf of Vodafone.

>> Wrong, as always. They're JUST selling a starter kit, fool.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>> Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO at all.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>> And retail operations arent under any legal obligation
>> to sell anything to anyone, just as long as they dont
>> discriminate on the basis of race etc.

>> As always, not a f.cking clue.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>>> Hence, the TIO is an appropriate course of action.

>> As always, not a f.cking clue.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>>> Generally, telecommunications consumer issues

>> Pity flogging a starter kit aint.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>>> are handled by the Federal body, rather than State/
>>> Territory Fair Trading agencies, hence the ACCC is also appropriate for a
>>> complaint in this instance.

>> As always, not a f.cking clue.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>> Its at most JUST a basic retail transaction, which the
>> state FT is responsible for, and retail operations arent
>> under any legal obligation to sell anything to anyone, just
>> as long as they dont discriminate on the basis of race etc.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>>>>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.
>>>>
>>>> You need to learn what those places do...
Rod Speed - 07 Dec 2004 18:23 GMT
> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.

Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO or the ACCC, fuckwit.

>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
>> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
>> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
>> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
thegoons - 08 Dec 2004 09:17 GMT
>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.
>
> Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO or the ACCC, fuckwit.

Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

>>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>>> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
>>> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
>>> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
>>> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
Rod Speed - 08 Dec 2004 09:43 GMT
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote

>>> Complain to ACCC/TIO if Woolies are arseholes.

>> Absolutely NOTHING to do with the TIO or the ACCC, fuckwit.

> Pity the TIO and ACCC thought otherwise.

You're lying, as always.

>>>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>>>> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
>>>> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
>>>> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
>>>> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
Daniel Juhn - 07 Dec 2004 07:16 GMT
so what exactly is the benefit of getting this instead of a 30$ starter kit
with $30 credit?

>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
Paul Wright - 07 Dec 2004 07:39 GMT
You can get the $2 kit and jump straight on the $49/79/149 caps with out
having to use the $30 of calls and $30 fee first..

> so what exactly is the benefit of getting this instead of a 30$ starter
> kit with $30 credit?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
>> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
Wally - 07 Dec 2004 13:08 GMT
> so what exactly is the benefit of getting this instead of a 30$ starter kit
> with $30 credit?

You can get a $20 recharge from Woolies for $18.
Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter - 07 Dec 2004 08:48 GMT
> I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
> one).

I ran into the same at Dick Smith - they spun some line about there being
no credit on it...
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John - 07 Dec 2004 09:46 GMT
They should sell you one by iteself without any grief. Just speak up to the
supervisor or whatever.
As someone else has said, it's good if you want to go straight to the
49/79/149 cap vouchers....
Also good to use for coverage testing ... eg someone who's not sure about
joining Vodafone could
burn the $2 to have a SIM to try coverage with...

Woolies/DSE/BigW etc... sell Vodafone recharge vouchers with 10% off (eg $30
voucher for $27...)
>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
stephen - 07 Dec 2004 15:30 GMT
i've had a vodafone prepaid card that hasnt had credit on it for the last
8months
can still use wap free of charge ;)
also i could send free logos . sms and ringtones from the vodafone site
(within reason)
not sure if i can do that now , vodafones website , has had a facelift

> They should sell you one by iteself without any grief. Just speak up to the
> supervisor or whatever.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
> > (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.
tme - 24 Feb 2005 01:29 GMT
stephen wrote :

>i've had a vodafone prepaid card that hasnt had credit on it for the last
>8months can still use wap free of charge ;)
>also i could send free logos . sms and ringtones from the vodafone site

Since there's no credit on the card, wouldn't Vodafone stop you from
sending SMS, since it'd try to deduct the $0.25 from the "prepaid"
account?

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tme

A User - 09 Dec 2004 21:44 GMT
>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
>one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
>advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
>(I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.

Why would you want to  buy a SIM with no credits on it? That's what
they're asking.
Simon Templar - 10 Dec 2004 02:48 GMT
>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>>reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Why would you want to  buy a SIM with no credits on it? That's what
> they're asking.

Probably because you can hammer GPRS on Vodafone Pre-Paid with no
credit!   :)

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
alice - 13 Dec 2004 20:55 GMT
> Probably because you can hammer GPRS on Vodafone Pre-Paid with no
> credit!   :)

Internet via GPRS or just MMS?
Simon Templar - 14 Dec 2004 04:48 GMT
>> Probably because you can hammer GPRS on Vodafone Pre-Paid with no
>> credit!   :)
>>
> Internet via GPRS or just MMS?

Only Internet via GPRS, even though MMS is free on Vodafone until the
end of January 2005 you still need credit to send it.

Now I wonder if I could connect the phone to a computer and surf via
GPRS on the computer?

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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
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polarwarp - 20 Dec 2004 06:02 GMT
Does anyone know who is selling the recharge cards (for the Red Sim)
with 10% free (or whatever the deal is).. not sure if its 10% off or
10% bonus :)

I heard its Woolsworth.. but who has it in Melbourne apart from
Safeway?  Do Big W offer it??

Thanks :)

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Charlie Wong - 20 Dec 2004 06:11 GMT
>Thanks :)

Dick Smith
polarwarp - 20 Dec 2004 07:13 GMT
polarwarp Wrote:
> Does anyone know who is selling the recharge cards (for the Red Sim)
> with 10% free (or whatever the deal is).. not sure if its 10% off or
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks :)

Erm.. oops :)  I was travelling home on the train and thought - what
does the W stand for!  So I guess Big W would have them too ;)

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polarwarp

John Smith - 22 Dec 2004 13:56 GMT
> Does anyone know who is selling the recharge cards (for the Red Sim)
> with 10% free (or whatever the deal is).. not sure if its 10% off or
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks :)

Safeway
Woolworths
Dicks Smith (Power House as well)
Woolworths Petrol
Big W
Tandy
Michael - 10 Dec 2004 06:43 GMT
> >I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> >reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Why would you want to  buy a SIM with no credits on it? That's what
> they're asking.

Its none of their business, so they can get stuffed
The Family - 10 Dec 2004 08:38 GMT
>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>>reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Why would you want to  buy a SIM with no credits on it? That's what
> they're asking.

I bought one yesterday with the groceries.  No hassles and no discussion.
No up-selling a recharge either.  There was far more discussion, in fact,
about the type of apples that I bought.

"A User" - which Woolies do you shop at, where staff has time to discuss the
details of products for sale.  Woolies is a bunch of shelf stackers,
checkout chix and JIT delivery automation.  There are no "spare" staff to
get involved in sales discussions, in my experience.  Perhaps I should sell
my WOW shares if Woolies is wasting time on customers over a $2 deal.

I'm happily enjoying the $50 of "My Vodafone" goodies as we speak.  After
that, I'll toss an old phone carrying the SIM into my spare car "just in
case."  It looks like the SIM will stay open for incoming calls for 12
months.  I can always add call credits at any time via CC if I really do
need to place non-emergency calls using that phone.  When the "receiving
calls" period expires at this time next year we'll see what other Xmas deals
are on offer.

PS:  GPRS is handy too.
Rodney James - 10 Dec 2004 10:31 GMT
>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
> one).  I reckon the sales pitch they are using is a bit of false
> advertising.  Either I can buy one of the $2 packs no questions asked
> (I can read the blurb on the sales counter) or I cannot.

Same deal for me. I was told that it was only available with a recharge
voucher. The staff member told me "you can't just buy one for two dollars",
despite the sign "Join Vodafone here for $2".
Wally - 12 Dec 2004 21:38 GMT
>>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
>>reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> voucher. The staff member told me "you can't just buy one for two dollars",
> despite the sign "Join Vodafone here for $2".

What did you tell em?
Michael - 13 Dec 2004 20:53 GMT
> >>I wanted to buy one of those packs from Woolies.  They were very
> >>reluctant to sell me one without buying a recharge voucher (already had
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> What did you tell em?

Ive also realised that these packs at good for porting numbers, to, and out
of.

Work pays for my number now so I dont use my personal number, but i want to
keep it. I have quite a few Virgin packs with credit, the number is on one
of them now. When the credit runs out on Virgin, port to Voda $2, port back
to a new Virgin pack.
 
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