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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / December 2004Telstra Rule
Why would you put up with any other phone company? When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? > > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. They might have superior coverage, but that's about it. I sort of agree about the one phone company idea, I reckon Telstra should have been commissioned to roll out as the sole infrastructure in Australia. But removed all retail capability, and only allow them to provide wholesale services to all the other telcos. Too late know.  Signature73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 >> Why would you put up with any other phone company? >> >> When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? >> >> We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. >They might have superior coverage, but that's about it. Not really, not if you want in building coverage in capital cities, not if you want to go from Brisbane to Cairns without a dropout.. >I sort of agree about the one phone company idea, I reckon Telstra >should have been commissioned to roll out as the sole infrastructure in >Australia. But removed all retail capability, and only allow them to >provide wholesale services to all the other telcos. Too late know. > Not really, not if you want in building coverage in capital cities, > not if you want to go from Brisbane to Cairns without a dropout.. Ha, I don't reckon you would get that sort of coverage from any of the carriers. Signature73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 > Ha, I don't reckon you would get that sort of coverage from any of the > carriers. The closest any carrier comes to that example IME is Vodafone - uninterrupted car kit coverage from Brisbane to El Arish (north of Tully). Telstra GSM and CDMA have extensive black spots north of Marlborough, Optus also have the occasional black spot on the Bruce Highway, but Vodafone is by far the best of the bunch. Albinus. >> Ha, I don't reckon you would get that sort of coverage from >> any of the carriers. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > black spot on the Bruce Highway, but Vodafone is by far the > best of the bunch. Last month, I had constant Vodafone coverage along the Newell and Cunningham Highways, from Dubbo to Brisbane via Goondiwindi and Warwick. I know we taxpayers paid for much of this, but it's still impressive. There's an interesting estimate of total base station numbers at Appedix B of http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asxdata/20041223/pdf/00488874.pdf Telstra GSM 4706 Optus GSM 3900 Telstra CDMA 3474 Vodafone GSM 1874 John Simon Templar <vk3xem@vk3xem.net> said >> Why would you put up with any other phone company? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Australia. But removed all retail capability, and only allow them to > provide wholesale services to all the other telcos. You still would have had the inefficiencies of a monopoly. What's the incentive to do things cheaper/smarter if your customers have no choice but to go to you? SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) > You still would have had the inefficiencies of a monopoly. > What's the incentive to do things cheaper/smarter if your customers have no > choice but to go to you? Well you would have a lot better coverage and the competition would be in the retail area. How can it be effective having so many carriers covering a country the size of Australia? Signature73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 Simon Templar <vk3xem@vk3xem.net> said >> You still would have had the inefficiencies of a monopoly. >> What's the incentive to do things cheaper/smarter if your customers >> have no choice but to go to you? > > Well you would have a lot better coverage Thats debatable. > and the competition would be in the retail area. And all retailers would be buying at roughly the same price from an inefficient supplier. No benefit to the consumer there. > How can it be effective having so many carriers > covering a country the size of Australia? What? 3.5 is 'so many'? I'd say we've got the mix pretty right. 3.5 carriers competing in the wholesale space and dozens (possibly hundreds - I don't know all the resellers) competing for the retail business. SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) >> You still would have had the inefficiencies of a monopoly. >> What's the incentive to do things cheaper/smarter if your customers have no >> choice but to go to you? > Well you would have a lot better coverage Nope, because there is no point in bothering with that when the customers have nowhere else to go. They get to like it or lump it. > and the competition would be in the retail area. And that wouldnt be any better than we currently see with line rent where the vast bulk are just competition at the retail level, reselling the telstra copper pair service. With f.ck all actual competition at all in practice. > How can it be effective having so many carriers covering a country the size of > Australia? You can say the same thing about supermarkets, banks, chemist shops, etc etc etc. We aint stupid enough to have a monopoly with those either. > Simon Templar <vk3xem@vk3xem.net> said > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > What's the incentive to do things cheaper/smarter if your customers have no > choice but to go to you? Ala AMPS >> Why would you put up with any other phone company? >> When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? >> We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. > They might have superior coverage, but that's about it. Dunno, the customer service isnt too bad compared with the alts. > I sort of agree about the one phone company idea, I reckon Telstra should have > been commissioned to roll out as the sole infrastructure in Australia. But > removed all retail capability, and only allow them to provide wholesale > services to all the other telcos. More fool you. There'd be no incentive to roll out services at a decent rate with that stupid approach, and that is what we saw when it was just telstra. > Too late know. Great. you must have a pretty small IQ if you think that > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of > Telstra? > > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. ___________________________ /| /| | | ||__|| | Please don't | / O O\__ feed | / \ the trolls | / \ \ | / _ \ \ ---------------------- / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | | /| | --| | | |// |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | / * / \_ /- | - | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ And pay 3X what we pay now.... That's what we paid, in real terms, before competition commenced. How quickly the naive forget and dismiss the benefits of competition. > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of > Telstra? > > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? > > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. Are you in any way related to Michael J Ellis? ;) >> Why would you put up with any other phone company? >> When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? >> We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. > Are you in any way related to Michael J Ellis? ;) Even Mikey aint THAT stupid on that last bit. > > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Are you in any way related to Michael J Ellis? ;) In all seriousness I dont know this guy. Most definately a troll >Why would you put up with any other phone company? > >When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? > >We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. Can I have some of what you're on? Do I need a prescription for it, or do I buy it in the pub carpark after dark? > Why would you put up with any other phone company? > > When you have the superior coverage, customer service and value of Telstra? > > We should go back to just 1 phone company in this country. And if the Nazi Party ran a "superior" phone company I guess you'd sign up with them as well? |
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