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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / September 2005Network Locking
Hi, I'm sorry if this seems too obvious to a lot of you or if it has been answered before - but my mother is with Virgin Prepaid and needs a new phone. She only needs something very basic so I am looking at the 3315s that are still selling on Optus Prepaid for $49. These are locked to the Optus network. Now as Virgin is technically the Optus network, does that mean her sim card will function correctly in the phone? Thanks, and Merry Christmas! post your imei, someone will generate the code to unlock it for you > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks, and Merry Christmas! >post your imei, someone will generate the code to unlock it for you Just like magic. Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. LOL, sad but true. > Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending letters to > 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. Legally speaking, what can they do?  SignatureAlmost everything in life is easier to get into than to get out of. >Legally speaking, what can they do? Here's one of the letters <http://homepage.mac.com/ryan.c/.Pictures/3%20032.jpg> > >Legally speaking, what can they do? > > Here's one of the letters > <http://homepage.mac.com/ryan.c/.Pictures/3%20032.jpg> Bullies and bullshit artists Makes me angry Anticompetitive sons of bitches. You should forward that one to the ACCC and see if you are in breach of the TPA. >> >Legally speaking, what can they do? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bullies and bullshit artists > Makes me angry >> Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending >> letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. > Legally speaking, what can they do? Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch. And they are flouting the law themselves. >>>Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending >>>letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And they are flouting the law themselves. What way? >>> Charlie Wong wrote >>>> Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending >>>> letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. >>> Legally speaking, what can they do? >> Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch. >> And they are flouting the law themselves. > What way? Misleading and deceptive conduct. > >>> Charlie Wong wrote > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Misleading and deceptive conduct. Agreed Michael said.... >> >>> Legally speaking, what can they do? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Agreed What is Hutchinson doing that's misleading and deceptive? Or rather, what is this Ryan chap doing that Hutchinson thinks is illegal? And why isn't "Ryan's" actions illegal? SignatureEveryone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. > Michael said.... >>>>>> Legally speaking, what can they do? >>>>> Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch. >>>>> And they are flouting the law themselves. >>>> What way? >>> Misleading and deceptive conduct. >> Agreed > What is Hutchinson doing that's misleading and deceptive? Claiming that they get any say what so ever on someone unlocking 3 prepaid handsets, cretin. > Or rather, what is this Ryan chap doing that Hutchinson thinks is illegal? Even someone as stupid as you should be able to work that one out. No wonder it needs a union to bludge off. > And why isn't "Ryan's" actions illegal? Because there is no law that makes it illegal ? Novel concept for you no doubt. > > And why isn't "Ryan's" actions illegal? Everything is legal unless it is illegal. For something to be illegal, it needs a law. And there aint no laws against what ryan is doing. Good on him! Why do these vehement discussions continue without reference to the stated CONTRACT breaches? Such common consumer contract terms may breach contract law but the case needs to be argued rather than just offering "good on ya mate"! > > > And why isn't "Ryan's" actions illegal? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Good on him! > Why do these vehement discussions continue without > reference to the stated CONTRACT breaches? Because only pig ignorant stupid children are stupid enough to not be able to grasp that there is plenty you cant be CONTRACTED on with your consumer rights. For example if some car manufacturer claimed that you had CONTRACTED with them to never use anything other than parts from that manufacturer, that is completely irrelevant to what you can do legally. > Such common consumer contract terms may breach contract law Then they aint binding, you silly little pig ignorant clown. > but the case needs to be argued rather > than just offering "good on ya mate"! Wrong when it aint illegal to unlock a locked mobile handset, fuckwit. In spades with someone doing the unlocking that doesnt even have a contract of any kind with the particular telco. >> > > And why isn't "Ryan's" actions illegal? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Good on him! > Why do these vehement discussions continue without reference to the stated > CONTRACT breaches? Such common consumer contract terms may breach contract There is no CONTRACT breach. > law but the case needs to be argued rather than just offering "good on ya > mate"! There is no such contract breach As long as the customer keeps paying his bills, he is not in breach of contract for his service and it is irrelevant what handset he uses or whether it is locked or unlocked. Even less of a "contract" with prepaid. Check out Three.com.au PrePaid "Customer Terms & Conditions" which form part of the agreed contract to buy their handsets & services. Unenforceable terms are likely to require correction by the competition & communications authorities. Surely service providers can openly assert some terms & conditions for using their services and expect compliance? > > Why do these vehement discussions continue without reference to the stated > > CONTRACT breaches? Such common consumer contract terms may breach contract [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Even less of a "contract" with prepaid. > Check out Three.com.au PrePaid "Customer Terms & Conditions" No thanks. > which form part of the agreed contract to buy their handsets & services. Not a f.cking clue, as always. > Unenforceable terms are likely to require correction > by the competition & communications authorities. Not a f.cking clue, as always. In the real world everyone realise that they are pure bluff, even the telco, and in practice it never ends up in court etc. > Surely service providers can openly assert some terms & > conditions for using their services and expect compliance? Not a f.cking clue, as always. >> > Why do these vehement discussions continue without reference to the > stated [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Even less of a "contract" with prepaid. > Michael said.... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What is Hutchinson doing that's misleading and deceptive? Or rather, They are claiming that he has "no authority" to perform handset unlocking. Load of sh.t, anyone can do it, its not illegal or limited to anyone Its like Holden saying "you cant add a spoiler to your car, only we can do it" Michael said.... >> What is Hutchinson doing that's misleading and deceptive? Or rather, > > They are claiming that he has "no authority" to perform handset > unlocking. But isn't Hutchinson claiming that he's representing himself as Hutch reseller? > Michael said.... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But isn't Hutchinson claiming that he's representing himself as Hutch > reseller? Not in as many words Anticompetitive >>>> Charlie Wong wrote > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Misleading and deceptive conduct. > Anticompetitive Nope, not in an illegal sense. >>>>> Charlie Wong wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Misleading and deceptive conduct. Ok. Immoral. Unethical. c.nts. >> Anticompetitive > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> >>> Misleading and deceptive conduct. > >> Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending > >> letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And they are flouting the law themselves. Correct > > Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending letters to > > 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. > > Legally speaking, what can they do? Nothing >> Charlie Wong wrote >>> Be careful, in other forums Hutchison 3G has been sending >>> letters to 15 year old phone unlockers making all sorts of threats. >> Legally speaking, what can they do? > Nothing Looks like they might have pulled the plug on his 3 prepaid service. It'd be an interesting exercise to sic the TIO on them over that and see what happens. > >> Charlie Wong wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It'd be an interesting exercise to sic the TIO > on them over that and see what happens. It certainly would. AFAIK they dont have any grounds to have done so I haven't bought the phone yet - I just want to know if Virgin is counted as part of the Optus network before I buy it. Otherwise I will just buy a new phone direct from Virgin. > post your imei, someone will generate the code to unlock it for you > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Thanks, and Merry Christmas! > I haven't bought the phone yet - I just want to know if Virgin is counted as > part of the Optus network before I buy it. Otherwise I will just buy a new > phone direct from Virgin. No. But it takes five minutes to unlock the phone, even if you have no idea what you're doing. Just type in a code on the keypad. -mark im going to buy the motorola v220 and it says its locked to the virgin network. does that mean it will automatically be unlocked after 6 months? also can i just switch the sim card? if i cant, does anyone know where i can get the unlock number thing (without having to pay). Signaturehills With a virgin prepaid phone, u can insert a virgin or optus sim without any need for unlocking. No the phone will not automatically unlock. After u have spent $80 with them, u need to ring them and they will give u the code and the instructions of how to do it. Might i suggest a different phone, u seem to be a new user, and Motorolla's are not the easiest phones to use. Try a nokia or a sony ericson, or sagem or siemens/ samsung etc... all easier. SignatureUnkit > Might i suggest a different phone, u seem to be a new user, and > Motorolla's are not the easiest phones to use. Try a nokia or a sony > ericson, or sagem or siemens/ samsung etc... all easier. Even one of those wall mounted things with a crank to get the operator - all easier than a Craparola. Hi, Excuse the ignorance but I am wanting to unlock my nokia 3315 and would love to know if someone could help me out? I read that i have to quote the imei but im not quite sure which code that is or where to find it. Some help would be hugely appreciated! Thanks Signaturetleo > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks Enter *#06# into your phone and your IMEI number will show on the screen. It is like an electronic finger print of your phone. SignatureThe views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/ Domain Hosting http://www.GizNet.com/ Thanks very much for that. Wondering if someone out there could help me unlock my nokia 3315?? The imei is 353385000234649. Many thanks! Signaturetleo |
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