Hi All
Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678. At the moment, all that is sent
back to me as an sms is the co-ords and no specific street detail, but will
this service eventually be able to give you a rough idea as to where you
are? I am guessing if it is able to give an idea as to where you are as in a
street name etc, tourists may get some advantage out of such a service when
lost (5678).
At the moment, it seems that my state police are using such technology quite
frequently through Telstra who advise them as to an approx street address
for a person they are seeking when they obviously know what mobile phone
number they happen to be on and that they are in fact carrying the phone
with them. A few times of late they have been able to tell the officers
which corner on what street they are most likely at at that given time.
Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
Warmingup - 17 Jan 2005 07:36 GMT
(-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
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> Hi All
>
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>
> Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
Albinus - 17 Jan 2005 08:56 GMT
> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>
> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>
> but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)
Albinus.
Warmingup - 17 Jan 2005 09:12 GMT
Sent an SMS with Test as text........
> > (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> >
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> Albinus.
Frank - 18 Jan 2005 06:26 GMT
> Sent an SMS with Test as text........
>
>> > but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
Just checked on-line billing and it costs 25c
Frank
Michael - 18 Jan 2005 11:49 GMT
> > Sent an SMS with Test as text........
> >
> >> > but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
>
> Just checked on-line billing and it costs 25c
yes, its just a standard SMS
Frank - 17 Jan 2005 09:15 GMT
>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
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> Albinus.
A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
Frank
Warmingup - 17 Jan 2005 09:27 GMT
I imagine it is simply the co-ords of the base station that received the
originating SMS, TSTO triangulation would require directionality and at
least two stations to be receiving close to simultaneously and I don't think
GSM nor CDMA work that way atm
> >> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> >>
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> Frank
Michael - 17 Jan 2005 10:37 GMT
> I imagine it is simply the co-ords of the base station that received the
> originating SMS, TSTO triangulation would require directionality and at
> least two stations to be receiving close to simultaneously and I don't think
> GSM nor CDMA work that way atm
cdma does, gsm doesnt
Tony Lathouras - 17 Jan 2005 09:29 GMT
>>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>>>
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> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
At best, considering all the factors that may decrease the signal strength
etc from the handset to any one of the base stations to work on
triangulation, it could only be very rough, surely?
Albinus - 17 Jan 2005 09:39 GMT
> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
About 50m out here - quite impressive on GSM *looks for Big Brother* ;)
Albinus.
Frank - 17 Jan 2005 10:02 GMT
>> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
>
> About 50m out here - quite impressive on GSM *looks for Big Brother* ;)
>
> Albinus.
My mistake, I didn't have my glasses on and got a number wrong. Yes, it is
just about spot on !
Frank
Giles - 17 Jan 2005 12:52 GMT
> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
Inner West... Marrickville perhaps?
Frank - 17 Jan 2005 19:36 GMT
>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>
> Inner West... Marrickville perhaps?
I calculate it to be Newtown, or Newtown/Marrickville.
Frank
The Family - 17 Jan 2005 15:08 GMT
The plan is that the location data will be placed on a "Whereis" street map
and sent to you as a picture message for about $2.
Telstra recently acquired street directory company UBD which produced the
Whereis product. It has big plans to value-add to the service.
I think Whereis is the only comprehensive Australia-wide electronic street
directory. (Melway/Sydway don't have operations in other states and local
directory companies in Bris, Adl and Per are all struggling.)
> Hi All
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> Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
roma - 30 Apr 2005 03:15 GMT
The Family Wrote:
> The plan is that the location data will be placed on a "Whereis" street
> map
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> local
> directory companies in Bris, Adl and Per are all struggling.)
Melway and sydway use street-directory.com.au and i personally prefer
it as im in melbourne and have always used melways and am not used to
the whereis.ubd mapping.

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DJ! - 17 Jan 2005 22:32 GMT
>Hi All
>
>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".
Thanks
DJ!
http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
OzDJ@clubduh.com
Rod Speed - 18 Jan 2005 00:27 GMT
>> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
> Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".
I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.
peter - 18 Jan 2005 07:11 GMT
>>> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
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> I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.
I suppose you can expect that from sluts, take your money and give no
service :-)
(the way i understand it , the service is only available for Telstra GSM)
peter
John Phillips - 18 Jan 2005 09:13 GMT
> I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.
I tried from Tel$tra, received some co-ordinates, then a message that a
suitable map reference could not be found.
In the inner western suburbs of Sydney.

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Michael - 18 Jan 2005 11:49 GMT
> > I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.
>
> I tried from Tel$tra, received some co-ordinates, then a message that a
> suitable map reference could not be found.
interesting
i always get the coords then a msg, "171LOST is a Telstra research
prototype. It should not be used for any health and safety purposes"
The Family - 18 Jan 2005 04:31 GMT
>>Hi All
>>
>>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
Only for Telstra GSM users. Telstra CDMA returns a message "Sorry, this
service is currently offline. Please try again later."
Works nicely with Telstra GSM though - I receive geographic coords and a UBD
street directly map reference that has been spot-on the three times I've
tried it out (from 3 different locations)
> Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".
>
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> http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
> OzDJ@clubduh.com
Michael - 18 Jan 2005 11:44 GMT
> >Hi All
> >
> >Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
Yes, its a Telstra Research Lab trial service
DJ! - 18 Jan 2005 11:24 GMT
>Hi All
>
>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
My results here:
The SMS location:
http://beta.phlog.net/entry/177917
The actual GPS location:
http://beta.phlog.net/entry/177918
Now... go away, stalkers ;-)
DJ!
http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
OzDJ@clubduh.com
Warmingup - 18 Jan 2005 22:39 GMT
Has anyone located a co-rds to map or better still street map method or
site?
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>
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>
> Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
DJ! - 18 Jan 2005 23:21 GMT
>Has anyone located a co-rds to map or better still street map method or
>site?
Just use the demo of http://www.oziexplorer.com if you're curious.
DJ!
http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
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