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Jo - 19 Feb 2005 04:55 GMT
Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?
Albinus - 19 Feb 2005 05:10 GMT
> Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?

Because the majority of inbuilding cells (i.e. office buildings,
tunnels) are wired for GSM, which GPRS is a superset of. CDMA (in
Australia) is primarily a network designed for rural areas, and thus in
many cases it's not economic to have the same depth of coverage in a
metro area.

Albinus.
Charlie Wong - 19 Feb 2005 07:24 GMT
>Because the majority of inbuilding cells (i.e. office buildings,
>tunnels) are wired for GSM, which GPRS is a superset of. CDMA (in
>Australia) is primarily a network designed for rural areas, and thus in
>many cases it's not economic to have the same depth of coverage in a
>metro area.

See recent posts re Telstra trying to push CDMA to city-folk.

Customer demand may see Telstra make such installations in rail
tunnels (assuming it's possible).
Frank - 19 Feb 2005 08:27 GMT
>>Because the majority of inbuilding cells (i.e. office buildings,
>>tunnels) are wired for GSM, which GPRS is a superset of. CDMA (in
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> Customer demand may see Telstra make such installations in rail
> tunnels (assuming it's possible).

It's possible. The 10km Airport Rail Tunnel has full CDMA coverage.

Frank
Charlie Wong - 19 Feb 2005 08:58 GMT
>It's possible. The 10km Airport Rail Tunnel has full CDMA coverage.

Cool. I hadn't been down there with my CDMA handsets.
Frank - 19 Feb 2005 10:04 GMT
>>It's possible. The 10km Airport Rail Tunnel has full CDMA coverage.
>
> Cool. I hadn't been down there with my CDMA handsets.

I am not sure about Orange coverage though.

Frank
Charlie Wong - 19 Feb 2005 12:00 GMT
>I am not sure about Orange coverage though.

Orange roams onto Telstra CDMA.
thegoons - 19 Feb 2005 15:14 GMT
>>I am not sure about Orange coverage though.
>
> Orange roams onto Telstra CDMA.

Does it roam onto Telstra within the Orange licence area? I remmeber it
didn;t at one stage, but I thought that was going to be changed
Graham - 20 Feb 2005 09:42 GMT
> Does it roam onto Telstra within the Orange licence area? I remmeber it
> didn;t at one stage, but I thought that was going to be changed

It roams whenever there isn't Orange signal, so it would work.

Graham.
Michael - 19 Feb 2005 13:48 GMT
> >Because the majority of inbuilding cells (i.e. office buildings,
> >tunnels) are wired for GSM, which GPRS is a superset of. CDMA (in
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> Customer demand may see Telstra make such installations in rail
> tunnels (assuming it's possible).

Its almost always possible.
Michael - 19 Feb 2005 13:48 GMT
> Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?

GPRS is an add-on to GSM, so your question doesnt even make sense
Rod Speed - 19 Feb 2005 18:47 GMT
>> Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?

> GPRS is an add-on to GSM, so your question doesnt even make sense

Corse it does, he's essentially asking why CDMA doesnt work when GSM does.
Michael - 20 Feb 2005 09:01 GMT
> >> Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?
>
> > GPRS is an add-on to GSM, so your question doesnt even make sense
>
> Corse it does, he's essentially asking why CDMA doesnt work when GSM does.

Fuckwits who cant ask straigh-forward questions get to bugger off
Rod Speed - 20 Feb 2005 18:43 GMT
>> >> Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?
>>
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>
> Fuckwits who cant ask straigh-forward questions get to bugger off

Fuckwit dunny cleaning children get no say
what so ever on who gets to bugger off. Ever.
Craig Ian Dewick - 21 Feb 2005 22:07 GMT
>Why doesn't CDMA work in the city underground (sydney) when GPRS does?

There aren't any CDMA cells in the CBD railway stations. I'm a train driver
with RailCorp and use a now-old Nokia 8210. It works in the stations but
most of the tunnels don't propagate the signal enough to have it work all
the way through (except in the tunnels between Kings Cross station and
Edgecliff).

GPRS is an  addition to standard GSM so it works wherever there is a GSM
cell transceiver set up.

Craig.
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Nick Andrew - 23 Feb 2005 02:58 GMT
>There aren't any CDMA cells in the CBD railway stations. I'm a train driver
>with RailCorp and use a now-old Nokia 8210. It works in the stations but
>most of the tunnels don't propagate the signal enough to have it work all
>the way through (except in the tunnels between Kings Cross station and
>Edgecliff).

I hope you've got a Handsfree system, Craig. Seeing all the car drivers
paying more attention to their mobile phones than to the road is bad
enough; I don't want our train drivers doing it too :-)

[ I'm actually surprised if there isn't already a ruling forbidding
drivers to have a mobile phone; your attention should be on the tracks. ]

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Ken Taylor - 23 Feb 2005 03:29 GMT
> >There aren't any CDMA cells in the CBD railway stations. I'm a train driver
> >with RailCorp and use a now-old Nokia 8210. It works in the stations but
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>
> Nick.
In his defense, he doesn't say he uses it while working, just in the
tunnels. He may actually commute to work.....

Ken
Michael - 23 Feb 2005 08:32 GMT
> >There aren't any CDMA cells in the CBD railway stations. I'm a train driver
> >with RailCorp and use a now-old Nokia 8210. It works in the stations but
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> [ I'm actually surprised if there isn't already a ruling forbidding
> drivers to have a mobile phone; your attention should be on the tracks. ]

Nick, stop being a pompous git
John Savage - 28 Feb 2005 00:38 GMT
>[ I'm actually surprised if there isn't already a ruling forbidding
>drivers to have a mobile phone; your attention should be on the tracks. ]

Eh? It's the driver's personal mobile phone that provides the backup for
communication to NSW train drivers.
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Michael - 28 Feb 2005 10:14 GMT
> >[ I'm actually surprised if there isn't already a ruling forbidding
> >drivers to have a mobile phone; your attention should be on the tracks. ]
>
> Eh? It's the driver's personal mobile phone that provides the backup for
> communication to NSW train drivers.

Same in Vic
 
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