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Tasmania - a state almost untouched my moern telecoms competition

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The Family - 20 Feb 2005 13:58 GMT
Back now on the larger island after spending a couple of weeks visiting some
friends and touring widely.

Heaps of tourists almost everywhere but amazingly, very little GSM coverage
except in the major towns.  Telstra, bless its soul (does it have one?) has
by far the best GSM coverage (don't believe the competitors maps).  However,
to really stay in touch around Tassie a Telstra CDMA phone is pretty much
the only option unless you go satellite.

Surprisingly, many of the accommodation rooms in the more outlying areas
don't have phones in the guest rooms and sometimes the only comms option is
to use a payphone.  In Tas there seem to be many more payphones in the
street, per capita, than in other states, perhaps indicating that mobiles
are less used by tourists due to the very limited coverage offered by the O
and V networks.  Travel to Tas with only O and V and you will be severely
coverage-limited.

Telstra must love Tasmania.

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Albinus - 22 Feb 2005 05:32 GMT
Travel to Tas with only O and V and you will be severely
> coverage-limited.

At least Vodafone is offering national roaming on the Telstra GSM
network in parts of northern Tasmania. You will probably find that Optus
and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
completed whilst Telstra was still 100% government owned. The east coast
is where Telstra really is the only game in town.

Never been there myself, but many of my friends who travel to Tasmania
say that especially when hiking through the western part of Tasmania,
CDMA is the only option. Not to mention Optus consistently have their
poorest national network performance in Tasmania...

Albinus.
Michael - 22 Feb 2005 09:02 GMT
> Travel to Tas with only O and V and you will be severely
> > coverage-limited.
>
> At least Vodafone is offering national roaming on the Telstra GSM
> network in parts of northern Tasmania. You will probably find that Optus

Whats your point?
The Telstra coverage is already there!, otherwise you couldnt roam on it

> and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
> coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
> completed whilst Telstra was still 100% government owned. The east

Load of shite
Telstra was run as a commercial entity well before then
Leo Gaggl - 22 Feb 2005 10:33 GMT
>>and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
>>coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
>>completed whilst Telstra was still 100% government owned. The east
>
> Load of shite
> Telstra was run as a commercial entity well before then

From memory I think it had more to do with Senator Harradine supporting
the Telstra sale in the Senate than economic feasibility. A fair chunk
of that moneywas supposed to be used extending coverage. Another example
of taxpayer funded infractructure I guess.
Michael - 22 Feb 2005 20:18 GMT
> >>and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
> >>coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> of that moneywas supposed to be used extending coverage. Another example
> of taxpayer funded infractructure I guess.

Nope, nothing like that occurred in Tasmania for Telstra
Leo Gaggl - 22 Feb 2005 21:13 GMT
> Nope, nothing like that occurred in Tasmania for Telstra

Then you might want to do some reading in the Parliamentary Library:

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/chron/2003-04/04chr03.htm

---------------------------------
11 December 1996

Bill for the sale of T1 passes the Senate with support of independents
Mal Colston and Brian Harradine.

Table 1: Networking the NationT1 allocation to states and territories
$58 Million
---------------------------------

The biggest allocation for the (by far) smallest state ? And funny about
the second place - QLD - where the second independent candidate was. You
call that economics ?
Tony Lathouras - 23 Feb 2005 08:24 GMT
>> >>and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
>> >>coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Nope, nothing like that occurred in Tasmania for Telstra

As if you would know..... the closest you have ever been to a map of tassie
is sniffing the female toilet seats!
Michael - 23 Feb 2005 08:32 GMT
> >> >>and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
> >> >>coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there was
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> As if you would know..... the closest you have ever been to a map of tassie
> is sniffing the female toilet seats!

Another fantastic contribution from Laughyourassoff
Tony Lathouras - 23 Feb 2005 19:26 GMT
>> >> >>and Vodafone think it's not economically feasible to deploy more GSM
>> >> >>coverage in Tasmania, whilst much of the Telstra GSM coverage there
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Another fantastic contribution from Laughyourassoff

It goes to prove that you sweet f.ck all when it is all said and done... you
obviously read the posts including the one from Leo showing that you are
totally wrong about your statement, you didn't have the guts to respond or
refute that post, but you did take my bait.

All that talk of a dunny cleaner my be in jest, but it actually may be
closer to the mark than most realise!
Albinus - 22 Feb 2005 10:34 GMT
> Whats your point?
> The Telstra coverage is already there!, otherwise you couldnt roam on it

The point is that Vodafone has realised that it's not economically
feasible to run cells in those rural areas, and instead has a roaming
agreement with Telstra. Just because Telstra got the jump on the others
in terms of coverage there doesn't make it automaticlly profitable for
other networks to install their own equipment.

> Load of shite
> Telstra was run as a commercial entity well before then

You don't seem to know the difference - I said "whilst Telstra was still
100% government owned". That's not a "commercial entity". Telstra is
still technically a GOC, like Macquarie Generation (NSW) and Tarong
Energy (QLD). Commercial entities (which a GOC is one form of) listen to
their shareholders, and if a corporation is 100% owned by the
government, they are certainly going to have input into the commercial
operations of their business.

Albinus.
Michael - 22 Feb 2005 20:18 GMT
> > Whats your point?
> > The Telstra coverage is already there!, otherwise you couldnt roam on it
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> government, they are certainly going to have input into the commercial
> operations of their business.

Nope. The Govt was well separated from the commercial operation that Telstra
is and was

> Albinus.
 
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