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News: CDMA set for a 2nd coming (Telstra hopes for 30% growth & 50% CDMA users in the city)

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Jason - 24 Feb 2005 21:56 GMT
CDMA set for second coming
Chris Jenkins
FEBRUARY 22, 2005  
 
TELSTRA is renewing its efforts to popularise CDMA, aiming for 30 per
cent subscriber growth on the network.
 
Trends are on track for 30 per cent year-on-year growth in CDMA
subscriber numbers, Telstra CDMA and small business head Jenny Roche
says.
CDMA subscribers grew 32 per cent last year, December being the best
month for new subscriptions, driven by a pre-paid recharge offer.

CDMA accounted for 98 per cent of growth in Telstra pre-paid
subscriptions in December.

At present, there are 1.15 million Telstra CDMA subscribers, Roche
says.

Growth is being driven also by the availability of more attractive
handsets from companies such as Nokia and Motorola, she says.

CDMA subscribers remain concentrated in rural and regional areas, with
just one in four subscribers based in metropolitan areas.

This has left the metropolitan network largely unused, running at just
15 to 20 per cent of capacity.

Telstra hopes about half of all CDMA subscribers will be in
metropolitan areas by the end of 2006, Roche says.

A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
April, and the release of a CDMA BlackBerry email terminal, originally
scheduled for launch last year, are expected to help drive CDMA uptake
in the city.

Telstra is planning to have roaming agreements with most major CDMA
markets by mid-year, Roche says.
Rod Speed - 25 Feb 2005 01:05 GMT
> CDMA set for second coming

Just another pathetic little journo wet dream.

> Chris Jenkins
> FEBRUARY 22, 2005

> TELSTRA is renewing its efforts to popularise CDMA,
> aiming for 30 per cent subscriber growth on the network.

Fat chance, you watch.

That wouldnt even happen if they choose to allow any handsets to sign up.

> Trends are on track for 30 per cent year-on-year
> growth in CDMA subscriber numbers, Telstra CDMA
> and small business head Jenny Roche says.

She's lying.

> CDMA subscribers grew 32 per cent last year,

Not with telstra they didnt, liar.

> December being the best month for new
> subscriptions, driven by a pre-paid recharge offer.

> CDMA accounted for 98 per cent of growth
> in Telstra pre-paid subscriptions in December.

Only because telstra is a complete dud for prepaid, stupid.

Only those who must have cdma have ever bothered.

> At present, there are 1.15 million
> Telstra CDMA subscribers, Roche says.

Fart in the bath. And that wont be changing, you watch.

> Growth is being driven also by the availability of more attractive
> handsets from companies such as Nokia and Motorola, she says.

Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

> CDMA subscribers remain concentrated in rural and regional areas,

Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

> with just one in four subscribers based in metropolitan areas.

And thats why its a complete yawn, stupid.

> This has left the metropolitan network largely
> unused, running at just 15 to 20 per cent of capacity.

Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

> Telstra hopes about half of all CDMA subscribers will
> be in metropolitan areas by the end of 2006, Roche says.

Hope springs eternal...

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected
> to be available by April, and the release of a CDMA
> BlackBerry email terminal, originally scheduled for launch
> last year, are expected to help drive CDMA uptake in the city.

Mindlessly silly. At most it might see some rural and regional users interested.

Those with more money than sense.

> Telstra is planning to have roaming agreements with
> most major CDMA markets by mid-year, Roche says.

Believe it when I see it.
John Mares - 25 Feb 2005 06:57 GMT
<SNIP>
>> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected
>> to be available by April, and the release of a CDMA
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Those with more money than sense.

Hi Rod,

As a copr. blackberry user, I for one can't wait for the new blackberry,
having played with one the speed of data on the new cdma devices is superb,
+in the city+.

Also it brings bluetooth to the blackberry for the first time which will
make it a much nicer telephone rather than an email and web appliance / PDA.

John Mares
Rod Speed - 25 Feb 2005 09:23 GMT
>> Jason <jjcoolaus@yahoo.com.au> wrote

>>> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected
>>> to be available by April, and the release of a CDMA
>>> BlackBerry email terminal, originally scheduled for launch
>>> last year, are expected to help drive CDMA uptake in the city.

>> Mindlessly silly. At most it might see some rural and regional users
>> interested.

>> Those with more money than sense.

> As a copr. blackberry user, I for one can't wait for the new blackberry,
> having played with one the speed of data on the new cdma devices is superb,
> +in the city+.

Pity there are so few that will give a flying red f.ck compared with WiFi.

> Also it brings bluetooth to the blackberry for the first time which will make
> it a much nicer telephone rather than an email and web appliance / PDA.

Pity that its essentially useless in a phone.
Paul Day - 25 Feb 2005 14:08 GMT
> Pity there are so few that will give a flying red f.ck compared with WiFi.

WiFi hot-spots for mobile comms is like hopping between oasises in the
desert... Give me decent-priced mobile data any day.

> > Also it brings bluetooth to the blackberry for the first time which
> > will make it a much nicer telephone rather than an email and web
> > appliance / PDA.
>
> Pity that its essentially useless in a phone.

I use the Bluetooth on my phone for sync-ing PIM data to my laptop, data
connection to my palm and laptop and voice to my headset numerous times
a day. I certainly don't find BT in a phone "useless".

PD

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Rod Speed - 25 Feb 2005 19:07 GMT
>> John Mares <john@psdsoft.com> wrote
>>>> Jason <jjcoolaus@yahoo.com.au> wrote

>>>>> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected
>>>>> to be available by April, and the release of a CDMA
>>>>> BlackBerry email terminal, originally scheduled for launch
>>>>> last year, are expected to help drive CDMA uptake in the city.

>>>> Mindlessly silly. At most it might see
>>>> some rural and regional users interested.

>>>> Those with more money than sense.

>>> As a copr. blackberry user, I for one can't wait for
>>> the new blackberry, having played with one the speed
>>> of data on the new cdma devices is superb, +in the city+.

>> Pity there are so few that will give a
>> flying red f.ck compared with WiFi.

> WiFi hot-spots for mobile comms is like hopping between oasises
> in the desert... Give me decent-priced mobile data any day.

You dont need blackberry for that.

>>> Also it brings bluetooth to the blackberry for the
>>> first time which will make it a much nicer telephone
>>> rather than an email and web appliance / PDA.

>> Pity that its essentially useless in a phone.

> I use the Bluetooth on my phone for sync-ing PIM data to my laptop,
> data connection to my palm and laptop and voice to my headset
> numerous times a day. I certainly don't find BT in a phone "useless".

He was clearly talking about that INSTEAD of a laptop.

THATS what is essentially useless due to the limitations of a phone.
Paul Day - 25 Feb 2005 14:05 GMT
> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
> April,

That'd be nice. :) Best of both worlds - Telstra GSM and CDMA coverage.

> Telstra is planning to have roaming agreements with most major CDMA
> markets by mid-year, Roche says.

And then roaming with GSM and CDMA.

Wonder if it will be tri-mode CDMA (AMPS800, CDMA800, CDMA1900) and
tri-band GSM (GSM900/1800/1900). Quad-band GSM would be asking too much.

Who's making this wonder-phone? I assume Telstra have bucklies of
getting call hand-off between networks working.

PD

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thegoons - 25 Feb 2005 23:19 GMT
Chipset was designed years ago. Never implemented due to commercial reasons.
Telstra have been talking about this for years.

>> A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
>> April,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> PD
Michael - 26 Feb 2005 00:15 GMT
> Chipset was designed years ago. Never implemented due to commercial reasons.
> Telstra have been talking about this for years.

No, they havent
Michael - 26 Feb 2005 00:15 GMT
> > A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
> > April,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Who's making this wonder-phone? I assume Telstra have bucklies of
> getting call hand-off between networks working.

Why would they want to implement it?
Thats what they have their up and coming 3G for
Michael - 26 Feb 2005 05:18 GMT
> > > A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
> > > April,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Why would they want to implement it?
> Thats what they have their up and coming 3G for

To clarify: comments in relation to dual-mode roaming, not call hand-off b/w
networks
Graeme Willox - 26 Feb 2005 01:06 GMT
>>A new dual-mode CDMA and GSM handset, expected to be available by
>>April,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> PD

They might introduce the same policy they had when CDMA was first
introduced.  During the "changeover" from analogue to CDMA, CDMA
handsets would roam onto analogue if there was no CDMA coverage.  If you
went out of CDMA range and your call dropped out, you could dial again
on analogue, and as long as you dialled within 30 seconds, they didn't
charge another flagfall.
budgie - 26 Feb 2005 01:23 GMT
>CDMA set for second coming
>Chris Jenkins
>FEBRUARY 22, 2005  
>  
> TELSTRA is renewing its efforts to popularise CDMA, aiming for 30 per
>cent subscriber growth on the network.

(snip rest ..)

Driven by Tel$tra greed.  Excepting Orange - where Tel$tra get to gouge when you
roam - they get all the business either at retail or wholesale level.  Far
better for Tel$tra than GSM where they have real network competition (however
competent).  Surprised it took them this long to look in this direction.
 
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