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Steve B. - 24 Mar 2005 06:40 GMT
Hi,
I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia 2280
is dying ad I want to replace it. I can maintain my current service with
Orange, but sign a 24 mth. contract, and get an LG HD 6000 or Nokia 6225 for
'free'. Are there other viable options? I'm an infrequent user and often
have $15-20 of calls left on my Business TalkSaver 45 account. (I guess I
should look at moving to a cheaper plan).

At the moment I rarely use the WAP browser in the 2280 but would possibly
use it more if I had GPRS. I don't really care about a camera. My hearing is
bad (which is why I have a CDMA phone - better hearing aid compatibility),
so need a vibrating alert and a nice loud (probably polyphonic) ring tone.

Does anybody have any suggestions re a phone and/or a site where I can
compare phone features?

Steve  = : ^ )
Bruce - 24 Mar 2005 07:07 GMT
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mobiles/phones/select_search.cfm
http://wireless.vodafone.com.au/compare/

| Hi,
| I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia 2280
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| Steve  = : ^ )
Gunn - 24 Mar 2005 11:06 GMT
Go for Nokia 6225. I have one and awesome!

If you have an ABN change to a Just Business 45 with free Orange to Orange
and a 9c per 30sec call rate.

Cheers

> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mobiles/phones/select_search.cfm
> http://wireless.vodafone.com.au/compare/
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> | Steve  = : ^ )
D P Burns - 24 Mar 2005 12:06 GMT
Totally agree with Gunn. I got a 6225 (mine) and a 3105 (wife's) a week ago
and couldn't
be happier. For the hearing impaired the 6225 would be the better of the
two.

Regards,

Derick

> Go for Nokia 6225. I have one and awesome!
>
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>> | Steve  = : ^ )
Steve B. - 24 Mar 2005 22:31 GMT
Thanks Bruce. I guess that Vodafone don't do CDMA - I can't find any CDMA
phones on their page.

On the Telstra page if I select CDMA and GPRS I get no matches. IS GPRS only
available through the GSM networks? There are plenty of WAP-enabled CDMA
phones but WAP's expensive to use, right?

Thanks in advance,
Steve  = : ^ )

Bruce said:

> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mobiles/phones/select_search.cfm
> http://wireless.vodafone.com.au/compare/
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> | Steve  = : ^ )
Rod Speed - 24 Mar 2005 23:11 GMT
Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...

> Thanks Bruce. I guess that Vodafone don't do
> CDMA - I can't find any CDMA phones on their page.

Amazing.

> On the Telstra page if I select CDMA and GPRS I get no matches.

Hardly surprising given that CDMA doesnt do GPRS. It has its own data mode.

> IS GPRS only available through the GSM networks?

Yep.

> There are plenty of WAP-enabled CDMA
> phones but WAP's expensive to use, right?

Nope, there is an equivalent data mode on CDMA.

> Bruce said:
>
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>> | Steve  = : ^ )
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT
> Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...
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>
> Hardly surprising given that CDMA doesnt do GPRS. It has its own data mode.

1xRTT and EVDO
Rod Speed - 25 Mar 2005 02:00 GMT
>> Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...
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>>
>> Hardly surprising given that CDMA doesnt do GPRS. It has its own data mode.

> 1xRTT and EVDO

Duh.
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 09:32 GMT
> >> Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...
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>
> Duh.

Too bad you couldnt name it, in your post. You ARE slipping, Rod
Rod Speed - 25 Mar 2005 09:45 GMT
>> >> Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
>> >> news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...
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>> Duh.

> Too bad you couldnt name it, in your post.

So stupid that it cant work out the difference between didnt and couldnt.

No surprise that the best it ever gets to do is clean the dunnys.
Steve B. - 25 Mar 2005 03:22 GMT
Rod Speed said:

> Steve the B <prettygood@everything.com.au> wrote in message
> news:BE697CEE.4E751%prettygood@everything.com.au...
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>
> Nope, there is an equivalent data mode on CDMA.

And this "equivalent data mode" is called????

Steve  = : ^ )
Rod Speed - 25 Mar 2005 04:43 GMT
> Rod Speed said:
>
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> And this "equivalent data mode" is called????

1xRTT is what most use instead of the GPRS on GSM.
Steve B. - 25 Mar 2005 05:48 GMT
Rod Speed said:

>> Rod Speed said:
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>
> 1xRTT is what most use instead of the GPRS on GSM.

Looking at Telstra's phone comparison page, one parameter is "CDMA 1x". Is
this what I'm looking for? If so, it seems all the phones have it, including
my current 2280.

Thanks in advance,
Steve  = : ^ )
Rod Speed - 25 Mar 2005 06:17 GMT
> Rod Speed said:
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>> 1xRTT is what most use instead of the GPRS on GSM.

> Looking at Telstra's phone comparison page, one
> parameter is "CDMA 1x". Is this what I'm looking for?

Yep.

> If so, it seems all the phones have it, including my current 2280.

Yep, its pretty common on modern CDMA handsets.

Like GPRS is on GSM handsets too.
Steve B. - 25 Mar 2005 07:00 GMT
Rod Speed said:

>> Rod Speed said:
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> Like GPRS is on GSM handsets too.

Thanks.

Steve  = : ^ )
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 09:32 GMT
> Rod Speed said:
>
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> this what I'm looking for? If so, it seems all the phones have it, including
> my current 2280.

Yep, 1xRTT is often abbreviated to 1x.
Danger Mouse - 29 Mar 2005 02:11 GMT
> Looking at Telstra's phone comparison page, one parameter is "CDMA 1x". Is
> this what I'm looking for? If so, it seems all the phones have it, including
> my current 2280.
The Orange Network does not currently have 1xRTT enabled in all parts of
 the Orange coverage area. Someone in this newsgroup mentioned it is
not set as a default either you have to ask Orange to set it for your
account/phone. Best do a Google search of this newsgroup to find the
Original post.
Charlie Wong - 29 Mar 2005 09:01 GMT
>The Orange Network does not currently have 1xRTT enabled in all parts of
>  the Orange coverage area. Someone in this newsgroup mentioned it is
>not set as a default either you have to ask Orange to set it for your
>account/phone. Best do a Google search of this newsgroup to find the
>Original post.

Despite what I've been told by Orange, I actually have some doubt
whether it's enabled at all.

I can't see how or why they would enable it and the instruct the
handset to not display that it is active.

Ask Orange and you'll get all sort of conflicting information - all
this means that someone is either lying or simply doesn't know what
they're talking about and bluffing their way through.
Michael - 29 Mar 2005 12:28 GMT
> >The Orange Network does not currently have 1xRTT enabled in all parts of
> >  the Orange coverage area. Someone in this newsgroup mentioned it is
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> I can't see how or why they would enable it and the instruct the
> handset to not display that it is active.

Its probably not active on your service. Have you asked?
Charlie Wong - 29 Mar 2005 13:23 GMT
>Its probably not active on your service. Have you asked?

It IS (apparrently) active on my service and I HAVE asked.
Michael - 29 Mar 2005 15:48 GMT
> >Its probably not active on your service. Have you asked?
>
> It IS (apparrently) active on my service and I HAVE asked.

Oh well, I guess you are getting the usual fluff that passes for CS from
Orange
Steve B. - 31 Mar 2005 04:06 GMT
Michael said:

>>> The Orange Network does not currently have 1xRTT enabled in all parts of
>>>  the Orange coverage area. Someone in this newsgroup mentioned it is
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>
> Its probably not active on your service. Have you asked?

Hmmm. I've been with Orange for a couple of years. I changed because I
needed CDMA and it was cheap. I pay $24.99 a month and have $10-$15 spend
left over, so could do a bit of WAP browsing. Unfortunately, my Orange phone
doesn't get great reception where I live (Sydney's eastern suburbs).

Is Telstra's service any better? Do they have a plan anything like as cheap
as the one I'm on with orange? (I have an ABN).

Thanks in advance,
Steve  = : ^ )
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 09:32 GMT
> > Rod Speed said:
> >
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> 1xRTT is what most use instead of the GPRS on GSM.

"duh"

shamelessly stolen from my post.
you ARE slipping Rod
Rod Speed - 25 Mar 2005 09:47 GMT
>> > Rod Speed said:
>> >
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>> 1xRTT is what most use instead of the GPRS on GSM.

> shamelessly stolen from my post.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, cocksucker.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find
plenty of examples of me using it long before your pathetic
little steaming turd using groups.google, cocksucker.
losi - 25 Mar 2005 00:56 GMT
CDMA uses 1xRTT not GPRS, 1xRTT is around 72/72kbs and is still a packett
data network

> Thanks Bruce. I guess that Vodafone don't do CDMA - I can't find any CDMA
> phones on their page.
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>> | Steve  = : ^ )
Steve B. - 25 Mar 2005 03:28 GMT
losi said:

> CDMA uses 1xRTT not GPRS, 1xRTT is around 72/72kbs and is still a packett
> data network

losi,
I know you're trying to help..

So, do I have to look for a phone which is advertised as '1xRTT'? All I find
on the Telstra site is "WAP: yes/no", and all I know about WAP is that it's
expensive. I don't know if that's because I pay for time connected or for
data downloaded, though.

Can you explain, to someone who knows nothing, what to look for in a CDMA
phone to get affordable (i.e. cheaper than my current WAP) internet access.

Thanks in advance,
Steve  = : ^ )


>> Thanks Bruce. I guess that Vodafone don't do CDMA - I can't find any CDMA
>> phones on their page.
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>>> | Steve  = : ^ )
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT
> Thanks Bruce. I guess that Vodafone don't do CDMA - I can't find any CDMA
> phones on their page.

They choose not to resell Telstra CDMA
James Bell - 24 Mar 2005 14:20 GMT
> Hi,
> I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia
> 2280
> is dying ad I want to replace it. I can maintain my current service with
> Steve  = : ^ )

Get a Telstra phone to make sure your kids have a job and don't go
slitty-eyed like the Optus users, or spotted-dick eaters like those Vodafone
shunts.
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT
> > Hi,
> > I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia
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> slitty-eyed like the Optus users, or spotted-dick eaters like those Vodafone
> shunts.

Idiot.
budgie - 25 Mar 2005 03:32 GMT
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia
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>Vodafone
>> shunts.

>Idiot.

Good to see you finally noticed.
James Bell - 25 Mar 2005 04:42 GMT
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My
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>
> Good to see you finally noticed.

Yes.. takes him a while to see anything with those slitty-eyes. (He is a
Sing-Tel customer)
Michael - 25 Mar 2005 09:32 GMT
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> > I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My
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> Yes.. takes him a while to see anything with those slitty-eyes. (He is a
> Sing-Tel customer)

You idiot
budgie - 25 Mar 2005 11:43 GMT
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> > I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My
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>
>You idiot

There's an echo in here ....
Vinnie - 25 Mar 2005 02:05 GMT
Go the 6225, and get a neck loop, this way you can set your hearing aid to
"T" and the sound will be directed through your hearing aid, the microphone
will work as normal.

> Hi,
> I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia 2280
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>
> Steve  = : ^ )
Steve B. - 25 Mar 2005 03:21 GMT
Thanks Vinnie,
I have a neck loop with my current phone. I haven't checked whether the one
I have works with the 6225; Nokia make several neck loops.

Steve  = : ^ )

Vinnie said:

> Go the 6225, and get a neck loop, this way you can set your hearing aid to
> "T" and the sound will be directed through your hearing aid, the microphone
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>>
>> Steve  = : ^ )
Martin Taylor - 26 Mar 2005 07:10 GMT
Steve said....

> Hi,
> I'm currently on the Orange CDMA network and have no contract. My Nokia
> 2280 is dying ad I want to replace it. I can maintain my current service

What's your 2280 doing that you reckon that it's dying? I have the 2280,
and so far it is working OK, except for a pisspoor battery life (2 days
to 2 days standby, max). I'm wondering what sort of life I'll get out of
it.

Signature

If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.          

Steve B. - 27 Mar 2005 01:09 GMT
Martin Taylor said:

> Steve said....
>
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> to 2 days standby, max). I'm wondering what sort of life I'll get out of
> it.

The battery now won't last a day. Some button presses don't register. Others
register twice.

Steve  = : ^ )
 
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