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googlegroups@sensation.net.au - 09 Apr 2005 10:33 GMT
Is anyone using this? They currently have the PCMCIA card on special
($299 versus $399) and a "second month for free" offer.

Speed. The site says "comparable speeds to a fixed line" - does that
mean a 14.4k fixed line? ;-)

Is it true IP-based access (ie: any proprietary application which works
on a normal ISP account will work on this) or is it fudged with web
proxy and email gateways?

Is the data coverage area the same as voice coverage? I go on country
drives occasionally and I was going to whip up a custom system that
used GPRS (via Telstra) to send back GPS info on where I was, but I
could probably do the same by chucking a laptop with a Vodafone and GPS
card under the seat. Last time we used Vodafone their non metro
coverage was severely lacking, but this was a few years ago.

Finally, do Telstra or Optus have anything similar that is reasonably
priced?
Charlie Wong - 09 Apr 2005 10:39 GMT
>Finally, do Telstra or Optus have anything similar that is reasonably
>priced?

Almost everything Telstra has is overpriced when compared to similar
competitor offerings.

You get it cheap with Vodafone because it has the smallest GSM
footprint and people perceive that it has poor coverage. (Poor means
different things to different people eg. No coverage in certain
places, weak coverage etc etc)
John - 09 Apr 2005 12:33 GMT
www.expansys.com.au have a deal on the PCMCIA card ... $109
thereabouts... http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=115561
losi - 09 Apr 2005 12:50 GMT
NAT routed IP, non live, Also forced HTTP compression on images etc
Otherwise great :)

40k is more the standard then 14.4k
> Is anyone using this? They currently have the PCMCIA card on special
> ($299 versus $399) and a "second month for free" offer.
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> Finally, do Telstra or Optus have anything similar that is reasonably
> priced?
googlegroups@sensation.net.au - 09 Apr 2005 22:10 GMT
> NAT routed IP, non live, Also forced HTTP compression on images etc
> Otherwise great :)

What would be the point of forcing compression on images, unless
they're BMP? ;)

If it's NAT then I presume I can open an outgoing SSH session, or use
my own VPN software...

I could live with 40kbit/sec.

Telstra's GPRS is pretty much out of the question - closest matching
plan by dollar is $55 which includes 5Mb of transfer, $11 per meg
thereafter (if you downloaded 500Mb you would be charged $55 plus
***$5,445*** excess!)

I can't find any clear information on Optus dedicated GPRS plans.
Anyone have a link?
losi - 10 Apr 2005 00:47 GMT
Optus arn't competitive on internet gprs, its $5.50 per meg for the first
10mb, $4.40 for the next 10 meg, $3.30 for each meg there after.. no cap
Forcing compression on everything makes it load faster, for example animated
pictures are striped down, other images stripped down with less colours, I
guess you could use a proxy to get around it, but they have done it to speed
things up browsing on the service, otherwise its complete open NAT internet,
but theres no way to get a live ip.

>> NAT routed IP, non live, Also forced HTTP compression on images etc
>> Otherwise great :)
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I can't find any clear information on Optus dedicated GPRS plans.
> Anyone have a link?
googlegroups@sensation.net.au - 10 Apr 2005 01:24 GMT
> Forcing compression on everything makes it load faster, for example animated
> pictures are striped down, other images stripped down with less colours

So a computer program decides arbitrary colours to remove from images
in order to compress them further? That must look fun on some sites. ;)

Looks like Voda is really the only viable option for anything above the
occasional use of your handset to browse WAP sites.
losi - 10 Apr 2005 02:21 GMT
Telstra use the same technology, but you have to put a proxy in telstra's,
vodafone force it on all http traffic, it dosnt look that bad, but you can
certainly notice it.. but it does speed things up

Vodafone is the most competitve on gprs, unless you consider the three
mobile broadband cap for $99 for 488mb, but only in three coverage, not
australia wide like the voda gprs offer..

>> Forcing compression on everything makes it load faster, for example
> animated
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Looks like Voda is really the only viable option for anything above the
> occasional use of your handset to browse WAP sites.
Jeremy Quirke - 10 Apr 2005 02:20 GMT
http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=329

> Is anyone using this? They currently have the PCMCIA card on special
> ($299 versus $399) and a "second month for free" offer.
Musk - 16 Apr 2005 09:14 GMT
> http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=329
>
>>Is anyone using this? They currently have the PCMCIA card on special
>>($299 versus $399) and a "second month for free" offer.

I just tried following the instructions on this site (was easy as i
actually have the same mobile as the author of this article - although a
newer version the P910i).

Guess what? My laptop connected straight onto the net using my bluetooth
mobile and Vodafone GPRS at a speed of 115k. I have not signed up for
any special data plan or bought a PCMCIA data card or anything - all I
have is mobile with bluetooth and an ordinary $79 cap with vodafone.
This plan gives me up to $500 per month in combined calls/sms/mms
AND....GPRS! This is excellent news!

Thanks for that link, I had heard this might be possible - but neither
the Vodafone site nor googling led to any decent instructions up until now.
Charlie Wong - 16 Apr 2005 14:26 GMT
>Guess what? My laptop connected straight onto the net using my bluetooth
>mobile and Vodafone GPRS at a speed of 115k. I have not signed up for
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Thanks for that link, I had heard this might be possible - but neither
>the Vodafone site nor googling led to any decent instructions up until now.

If you're on prepaid, I believe that you'll be able to continue to use
the GPRS even when you have no credit remaining.
Simon Templar - 18 Apr 2005 14:32 GMT
>>Guess what? My laptop connected straight onto the net using my bluetooth
>>mobile and Vodafone GPRS at a speed of 115k. I have not signed up for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If you're on prepaid, I believe that you'll be able to continue to use
> the GPRS even when you have no credit remaining.

That's right, get a $2 Voda Pre-paid starter kit from DSE, Safeway,
Safeway +Petrol or Woolworths (outside Vic).  Don't put any credit on it
and just hammer the sh.t out of the GPRS for FREE!!!!

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Musk - 19 Apr 2005 14:45 GMT
>>> Guess what? My laptop connected straight onto the net using my
>>> bluetooth mobile and Vodafone GPRS at a speed of 115k. I have not
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Safeway +Petrol or Woolworths (outside Vic).  Don't put any credit on it
> and just hammer the sh.t out of the GPRS for FREE!!!!

Insane! Must give that a try. Guess the only thing is i'd have to
switch-off and swap sims every time I wanted to log on. Wish I had a
spare old bluetooth phone I could just leave a $2 sim in it and leave my
main phone for calls. I do have a few old mobiles lying around but
unfortunately none of them have bluetooth.
Pipenetworks - 25 Apr 2005 13:55 GMT
>> http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=329
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for that link, I had heard this might be possible - but neither the
> Vodafone site nor googling led to any decent instructions up until now.

can anyone else confirm that FULL GPRS is available on the Vodafone $79 cap
using a prepaid sim?

can anyone use FULL GPRS on the $49 voda cap? as Im on this one and cannot
access FULL GPRS, just WAP GPRS which is limited and cant be accessed from
the laptop.

cheers ;)
 
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