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Rob M - 20 Apr 2005 13:50 GMT
Hi all,

I'm gonna be going to the UK and Europe for an extended stay in a few mths,
wondering what the best prepaid deal would be in terms of call rates to UK
mobiles and back to Australia.

It would also be handy if the prepaid could have roaming, as trips to
various parts of Europe will be made but if this makes the other costs too
high (or the roaming costs are too high which I suspect they might be) I
guess it's best to just use starter packs in the other countries and toss
the SIM's when I leave?

Your advice would be appreciated!
thegoons - 20 Apr 2005 15:23 GMT
Virgin Mobile UK. Buy a SIM on ebay before you leave AU (then you can tell
friends your number). Can roam overseas (Europe no probs); only disdvantage
is that you have to have bought the topup vouchers in the UK before you
leave (ie: can't buy them online or anywhere else in Europe). And they don't
accept non-UK-issued Credit Cards for ccredit top-up either.

http://www.virgin.com/gateways/mobile/

> Hi all,
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> Your advice would be appreciated!
Jason - 20 Apr 2005 15:54 GMT
>> I'm gonna be going to the UK and Europe for an extended stay in a few
>> mths, wondering what the best prepaid deal would be in terms of call rates
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>> guess it's best to just use starter packs in the other countries and toss
>> the SIM's when I leave?

>Virgin Mobile UK. Buy a SIM on ebay before you leave AU (then you can tell
>friends your number). Can roam overseas (Europe no probs); only disdvantage
>is that you have to have bought the topup vouchers in the UK before you
>leave (ie: can't buy them online or anywhere else in Europe). And they don't
>accept non-UK-issued Credit Cards for ccredit top-up either.

Don't buy a Virgin SIM card on Ebay - buy one when you arrive in the
UK as generally it'll be cheaper and you can be *sure* it come with
credit. You could probably get one at W.H. Smith at the airport when
you arrive if you need it urgently.

Buying a Vrigin SIM in the UK guarantees it will come with an
electronic top-up swipe card, which means top-ups can be made in
retails outlets (like Tesco and Sainsbury's supermarkets) using an
Australian credit card.

See
http://www.virginmobile.com/mobile/media_centre/media_where2buy_phones.jsp

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Cheers,

Jason.

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Jason - 20 Apr 2005 15:42 GMT
>I'm gonna be going to the UK and Europe for an extended stay in a few mths,
>wondering what the best prepaid deal would be in terms of call rates to UK
>mobiles and back to Australia.

Have a look at http://alan.uni-hd.de/Handy/UK_SIMs-ENGLISH.html for a
guide to UK PAYG.

Another plus with Virgin is the calls can be made to Australia using
the increasing popular "call-though" services  in the UK. By dialling
an 0845 or 0870/0871 access number, which Virgin charge at 10p and 15p
per minute respectively, a saving can be made over Virgin's 20p per
minute rate to Australia. For examples of "call-though" services see
http://www.niftylist.co.uk/

>It would also be handy if the prepaid could have roaming, as trips to
>various parts of Europe will be made but if this makes the other costs too
>high (or the roaming costs are too high which I suspect they might be) I
>guess it's best to just use starter packs in the other countries and toss
>the SIM's when I leave?

As a Virgin customer I find there roaming rates for Europe some of the
most reasonable, but of course buying local SIMs will always be
cheaper.

See also http://www.riiing.com/ and
http://www.oneroam.co.uk/sim-cards.aspx which might be of use for
travel in multiple countries.

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Cheers,

Jason.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?
Giles - 21 Apr 2005 02:01 GMT
> I'm gonna be going to the UK and Europe for an extended stay in a few mths,
> wondering what the best prepaid deal would be in terms of call rates to UK
> mobiles and back to Australia.

Yep, Virgin Mobile UK is a good option, but it might be worth looking
into a couple of new players too.  Particularly the case if you're
expecting to make many calls to other UK mobile networks (which are
usually much more expensive than same-network calls or calls to
landlines) - eg Virgin charges 35p/min to call other mobile networks,
more than double their standard rate.

Fresh Mobile (from Carphone Warehouse)
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-server-PageServer?ARTICLE
=STATIC.FRESHNETWORK.FEB.WELCOME&NODE_ID=5902


Easy Mobile
https://www.easymobile.com/

These mobs have a 15p/min rate to any UK landline or mobile, with 5p
text.  There's also a price war on at the moment, with those prices
down to about 5p/min and 2p text (but those prices are likely to go
back to normal in a few months).

Also, note that these are really cut-price business models - bare bones
operations that have limited account features.  I don't know
specifically about international roaming, but I suspect they might not
offer it.
www.simcard.me.uk - 27 Apr 2005 07:36 GMT
Vodafone and T-mobile is best UK Network. There not many places u can go in
the UK with out getting signal on these networks. Vodafone the best. UK
Vodafone pay as you go also has Int Roaming on. No need for ID or UK address
as with UK Vodafone no need to activate to use.
Virgin is the worse UK network
Rob M - 27 Apr 2005 10:04 GMT
What are the call rates though?

> Vodafone and T-mobile is best UK Network. There not many places u can go
> in the UK with out getting signal on these networks. Vodafone the best. UK
> Vodafone pay as you go also has Int Roaming on. No need for ID or UK
> address as with UK Vodafone no need to activate to use.
> Virgin is the worse UK network
Jason - 27 Apr 2005 13:04 GMT
>> Vodafone and T-mobile is best UK Network. There not many places u can go
>> in the UK with out getting signal on these networks. Vodafone the best. UK
>> Vodafone pay as you go also has Int Roaming on. No need for ID or UK
>> address as with UK Vodafone no need to activate to use.
>> Virgin is the worse UK network

>What are the call rates though?

See http://alan.uni-hd.de/Handy/UK_SIMs-ENGLISH.html for an overview
of the majority of Prepay products in the UK.

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Cheers,

Jason.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?
www.simcard.me.uk - 27 Apr 2005 14:14 GMT
Bloudy hell 99p per min to phone australia looking at the Vodafone.co.uk
website.

O2 are better for calls back to australia to a land line is only 10p per min
evening and weekend rates and 35p per min daytime rates when you pay one off
charge of £4.99 for  International Talk & Text Bolt with pay as you go o2
not bad. only 10p per txt back to Australia to. Think o2 would be best your
best bet.
If u order on line u dont need id or UK Address as these sims work with out
being activated. Think u may need to show id and uk address if you buy in a
shop.

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Jason - 27 Apr 2005 13:03 GMT
>Vodafone and T-mobile is best UK Network. There not many places u can go in
>the UK with out getting signal on these networks. Vodafone the best. UK
>Vodafone pay as you go also has Int Roaming on. No need for ID or UK address
>as with UK Vodafone no need to activate to use.
>Virgin is the worse UK network

The general view about T-Mobile in the UK is that they've the poorest
network in terms of signal strength and the coverage is questionable.
Spend some time in uk.telecom.mobile (or even the UK) and this will
become obvious.

So while "T-Mobile is best UK Network" [sic], but Virgin which uses
the T-Mobile network is the "worse UK network" [sic]. Care to explain
this?

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Cheers,

Jason.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?
www.simcard.me.uk - 27 Apr 2005 13:58 GMT
No idea why that is but its the same with the THREE nework is very bad but
uses the O2 network yet the 02 is way better.
Whos knows

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