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Jason Vaughn - 03 May 2005 14:03 GMT
Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.

visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30
John Smith - 03 May 2005 14:53 GMT
A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

> Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.
>
> visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30
Jason Vaughn - 05 May 2005 11:55 GMT
Everyone wants something for nothing these days!

Porting your number from one network to another is completley free. If you
found enough offers like this one you could end up with months worth of free
call credits.

You arent obliged in anyway to continue using their service once your free
credit is used up. Tis a good way to get some free call credits.
Jason - 05 May 2005 17:14 GMT
>> Port your existing number now and receive $30 free pre-paid credit.
>>
>> visit www.joinrevolution.com , promotion code: REVT30

>A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.

I consider flagfalls for voice and data calls a 'rort' too, but most
people seem to put up with this 'rort' without complaint.

It all depends upon what the local market conditions are which in turn
governs what people will put up with, and obviously some people are
prepared to an access fee in turn for lower PAYG call charges.

If you want to see charges for everything, have a look at the new
Easymobile product in the UK!

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Martin Taylor - 08 May 2005 01:57 GMT
Jason said....

>>A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.
>
> I consider flagfalls for voice and data calls a 'rort' too, but most
> people seem to put up with this 'rort' without complaint.

I also consider timed calls for mobiles and local calls to be a "rort"
too. But people willingly accept this. It's funny, but if they
introduced timed local calls for landlines, people would revolt. So, why
they accept one but not the other has got me..
Jason Vaughn - 10 May 2005 10:57 GMT
It does seem a little strange but think about how much you pay for the
internet compared to some places around the world. Ive read about some dirt
cheap, high speed connections available in places like Japan. All comes down
to where you choose to live at the end of the day I suppose.

> Jason said....
>
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> introduced timed local calls for landlines, people would revolt. So, why
> they accept one but not the other has got me..
DrKatz - 13 May 2005 09:25 GMT
John Smith Wrote:
> A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.
>
> So John would you rather pay 60c, 74c or a $1 per min to avoid your
> nasty "access fee"? The fee is 15c per day, you can save that with one
> phone call!!

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TA 2000 - 14 May 2005 03:02 GMT
John Smith Wrote:
> A Daily 'access fee' sounds like a rort to me.
>
> [/color]

I'd agree $50 odd dollars just to have your phone connected to the
network mmm.....

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DrKatz - 19 May 2005 03:03 GMT
TA 2000 Wrote:
> I'd agree $50 odd dollars just to have your phone connected to the
> network for a year mmm.....

But if you can save more than $50 in call costs over a year...which i
have already done in far less than a year, doesnt that make it better
value? In my opinion it is shortsighted to view it as a rip off, when
in the long run you will save far more.

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Martin Taylor - 24 May 2005 11:39 GMT
DrKatz said....

> But if you can save more than $50 in call costs over a year...which i
> have already done in far less than a year, doesnt that make it better
> value? In my opinion it is shortsighted to view it as a rip off, when
> in the long run you will save far more.

This always gets me - people bragging about "saving" money, when in
fact, they're spending it. Like the missus who goes out and buys
something cos it's on special. "Look dear, look what I got. I saved
$1.99. It normally costs $15,99." Thing is, she spent nearly $14 on
something that she didn't need.

Like mobile phones. Private use, they're handy, they're a gadget, but
they aren't vital to one's existance. Business use, yeah, they can help
generate an income. Ergo, unless you're a business, anyone who spends
money on a mobile phone isn't saving a cent.
DrKatz - 25 May 2005 03:49 GMT
I think your logic is far more flawed than that which you are trying to
argue against. If i am spending less money than i would doing the same
thing with another mobile company then i am saving. It is only if i
change my behaviour that i do not save money...ie. Revtel have cheaper
calls therefore i will make more of them.

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BG - 25 May 2005 14:22 GMT
>I think your logic is far more flawed than that which you are trying to
>argue against. If i am spending less money than i would doing the same
>thing with another mobile company then i am saving.

That's exactly what the advertisers want us to think, but...

You're not saving anything!

You're still spending, but less!

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DrKatz - 26 May 2005 02:11 GMT
Of course im still spending, who the hell doesnt spend! Are you
suggesting we all sit at home, calculating how much money we are saving
by not using our phones? Or should we perhaps revert to cheaper
alternatives? Start writing letters again, they only cost 50c...how
much is a carrier pigeon?

My point is, putting the select few aside who refuse to make calls to
avoid spending money, if you are going to be making calls regardless of
cost, then if you find a cheaper source for those calls you are in fact
saving money.

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BG - 26 May 2005 11:53 GMT
>Of course im still spending.

Thanks!

> who the hell doesnt spend! Are you
>suggesting we all sit at home, calculating how much money we are saving
>by not using our phones?

No, why would I suggest that? Stupid idea! Are you suggesting that?

> Or should we perhaps revert to cheaper
>alternatives? Start writing letters again, they only cost 50c...how
>much is a carrier pigeon?

Strange ideas!

>My point is, putting the select few aside who refuse to make calls to
>avoid spending money, if you are going to be making calls regardless of
>cost, then if you find a cheaper source for those calls you are in fact
>saving money.

No, you're just spending less.

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DrKatz - 27 May 2005 05:19 GMT
Lets not get caught up in semantics here. What you call spending less, i
call saving. The "savings" on call rates i get from Revtel means i
"spend less".

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BG - 27 May 2005 06:53 GMT
>Lets not get caught up in semantics here. What you call spending less, i
>call saving. The "savings" on call rates i get from Revtel means i
>"spend less".

Agree
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virgmob007@netscape.net - 25 May 2005 07:16 GMT
> DrKatz said....
>
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> generate an income. Ergo, unless you're a business, anyone who spends
> money on a mobile phone isn't saving a cent.

I first got a mobile in order to avoid the high costs of having a
landline phone, and I am not a business (if you exclude funny
business!); and I make relatively few phone calls, and that now on
public phones whenever possible (towards the end of my pre-paid credits
period, I then try to use up my credits -- although I come from a long
line of misers!).  Also, I have been involved in a long term legal
litigation case, and it is necessary to have contact with my legal
counsel.
Martin Taylor - 25 May 2005 23:29 GMT
virgmob007@netscape.net said....

> I first got a mobile in order to avoid the high costs of having a
> landline phone, and I am not a business (if you exclude funny

How do you access the internet, then? From work, internet cafe, etc.?

And how can a mobile be cheaper than a landline, when on average, call
costs are up over 50 cents a minute? Even the dearest STD charges are
less than this from a landline.
 
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