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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / August 2005Orange Plans
Any problems or hidden catches in the Orange plans, 9c for 30sec (From Orange network) to any phone in Australia plus a few international destinations seems too good to be true. Costs are more when roaming from the Telstra network but still cheap as when compared with Telstra. We need a CDMA phone and currently use a Telstra Pre-pay - what a rip off when compared with Orange. Stevesub orange's coverage is woeful. > Any problems or hidden catches in the Orange plans, 9c for 30sec (From > Orange network) to any phone in Australia plus a few international [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Stevesub > orange's coverage is woeful. Exactly. A friend of mine had an Orange phone that got no coverage in a very popular Sdney suburb not too far from the CBD. Whilst my Telstra prepaid mobile had 100% coverage for the same suburb. >> Any problems or hidden catches in the Orange plans, 9c for 30sec (From >> Orange network) to any phone in Australia plus a few international [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Stevesub Gregory Kleverlaan said: > "Pat" <patclancyNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42fe88dc$0$15514$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au..> . >> orange's coverage is woeful. > > Exactly. A friend of mine had an Orange phone that got no coverage in a very > popular Sdney suburb not too far from the CBD. Whilst my Telstra prepaid > mobile had 100% coverage for the same suburb. I borrowed a Telstra CDMA phone (thanks Frank!) - didn't connect it to the network, just carried it around and compared the signal strength to my Orange phone. Most places they were about the same. There was some variation as you might expect but neither seemed to have a clear advantage, and I do remember that the Orange phone had a much stronger signal in Kirribilli, on Sydney's lower north shore. I elected to stay with Orange. HTH, Steve = : ^ ) Steve said.... > I borrowed a Telstra CDMA phone (thanks Frank!) - didn't connect it to > the network, just carried it around and compared the signal strength to > my Orange phone. Most places they were about the same. There was some I could never understand that. How can a phone pick between the signals from say Vodaphone and Optus or Telstra? Do they operate on slightly varying frequencies or something, and depending on how it's connected, to ignore the others? If so, how does it operate when you want to dial 000 or the emergency number 112 or whatever it is? > Steve said.... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to ignore the others? If so, how does it operate when you want to dial > 000 or the emergency number 112 or whatever it is? It was a Telstra CDMA phone. It is not connected but still picks up the Telstra CDMA signal, that's how Steve did his comparison with his Orange phone. It has nothing to do with Optus or Vodafone. Frank Frank said.... >>> my Orange phone. Most places they were about the same. There was some >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Telstra CDMA signal, that's how Steve did his comparison with his Orange > phone. It has nothing to do with Optus or Vodafone. My question was about how a phone can pick up say, the telstra signal when it's a Telstra phone, but not say another network's signal when its own network is not present. Usually, it's the other way around. When I was with Optus, the signal bar on my phone was usually reading about 1 bar or nothing, but mates' Telstra connected phones would have a signal if we were away from an Optus covered area. > Steve said.... > >> I borrowed a Telstra CDMA phone (thanks Frank!) - didn't connect it >> to the network, just carried it around and compared the signal >> strength to my Orange phone. Most places they were about the same. > I could never understand that. No surprises there. > How can a phone pick between the signals > from say Vodaphone and Optus or Telstra? Do they operate on > slightly varying frequencies or something, and depending on how it's > connected, to ignore the others? Pathetic, really. > If so, how does it operate when you > want to dial 000 or the emergency number 112 or whatever it is? They connect to any base they can hear, stupid. >> Steve said.... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > They connect to any base they can hear, stupid. That sounds an awful lot like,RODNEY SPEED.to me...Hmmmmmmm Bullet said.... >> They connect to any base they can hear, stupid. > > That sounds an awful lot like,RODNEY SPEED.to me...Hmmmmmmm Probably was. I didn't see his post until you replied to it. Stupid prick can't figure out that I have smart twit filtering enabled. He probably "thinks" that I filter on email addresses alone. I don't. Anyway, aside from his idea of caustic barbs, he didn't provide any answers to the questions that I asked. Not surprising, he's always been good at bluster and bullshit. > Bullet said.... >>> They connect to any base they can hear, stupid. >> That sounds an awful lot like,RODNEY SPEED.to me...Hmmmmmmm > Probably was. I didn't see his post until you replied to it. Stupid > prick can't figure out that I have smart twit filtering enabled. He > probably "thinks" that I filter on email addresses alone. I don't. Stupid c.nt is so stupid that it hasnt even realised how making it obvious enough to silly little prats like that that its one of mine, they will quote it and you wont be able to ignore it. Pathetic, really. > Stupid c.nt is so stupid that it hasnt even realised how making > it obvious enough to silly little prats like that that its one of mine, > they will quote it and you wont be able to ignore it. > > Pathetic, really. The only thing that is pathetic Rod is those stupid little fuckern one-liners.They are OK for a while but then the novelty wears off after about the 50th post .I will give you a bit of credit though for actually making a statement which is more than five words long this time.First time in a long time that I have seen you do that. And when you do reply sometimes,your input appears on the face of it to be useful. Shame that this is the exception,not the rule. It's always the same old story.Some people have way too much time on their hands. Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. > Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind > Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the > puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And here I was thinking you had turned the corner....Should have known better I expect. Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. > Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind > Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the > puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind Bullet <bullet610@@netspace.net.au> wrote just the puerile sh.t thats always pouring from the back of it. And so it goes on from a person who is demonstrating to the world how much of a dumb c.nt he can be....shame that. If he put his mouth( and indeed his keyboard) to good use ,who knows how far he may have risen in life? Hey RODNEY,....Does your Mum know what you get up to when she leaves you home to go to the shops? >> I could never understand that. > No surprises there. That you Roddles? Wrong anon. Should be "Dumbo", not "Jimbo"?  SignatureDid you expect mere proof to sway my opinion? > I could never understand that. How can a phone pick between > the signals from say Vodaphone and Optus or Telstra? Do they > operate on slightly varying frequencies or something, and > depending on how it's connected, to ignore the others? If so, > how does it operate when you want to dial 000 or the emergency > number 112 or whatever it is? They do use different ranges of channels (frequencies). But that's done so that they don't interfere with each other's signals, not so the phone can discriminate between the carriers. That discrimination is done on the basis of data that's being constantly pumped out by each cell. More than a dozen parameters are broadcast, describing what's possible/required on each particular cell. The phone is permitted to ignore some of this when setting up an emergency call. John > Steve said.... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from say Vodaphone and Optus or Telstra? Do they operate on slightly > varying frequencies or something, and depending on how it's connected, Yes, diff frequencies > to ignore the others? If so, how does it operate when you want to dial > 000 or the emergency number 112 or whatever it is? With 112, your GSM phone will use any available GSM network to make the call > Martin Taylor <mjpt57@gmail.com> wrote >> Steve said.... >>> I borrowed a Telstra CDMA phone (thanks Frank!) - >>> didn't connect it to the network, just carried it around >>> and compared the signal strength to my Orange phone. >>> Most places they were about the same. >> I could never understand that. How can a phone pick >> between the signals from say Vodaphone and Optus >> or Telstra? Do they operate on slightly varying frequencies >> or something, and depending on how it's connected, > Yes, diff frequencies Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a f.cking clue. No surprise that you only ever get to clean the dunnys. >> If so, how does it operate when you want to dial 000 >> or the emergency number 112 or whatever it is? > With 112, your GSM phone will use any > available GSM network to make the call > Gregory Kleverlaan said: > > > "Pat" <patclancyNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42fe88dc$0$15514$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au..> > . > >> orange's coverage is woeful. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > remember that the Orange phone had a much stronger signal in Kirribilli, on > Sydney's lower north shore. I elected to stay with Orange. Pretty useless test, signal quality and speech quality dont have a lot to do with the number of "bars" on a CDMA phone > Any problems or hidden catches in the Orange plans, 9c for 30sec (From > Orange network) to any phone in Australia plus a few international Plus that 25c flagfall > We need a CDMA phone and currently use a Telstra Pre-pay - what a rip off > when compared with Orange. Then bugger off to Orange, chuckles > Any problems or hidden catches in the Orange plans, 9c for 30sec (From > Orange network) to any phone in Australia plus a few international [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Stevesub Chances are if you NEED CDMA then it more than likely means you don't have adequate GSM coverage. If that is the case then Orange will be next to useless to you because it only covers Metropolitan areas, when you are outside of Orange coverage then you will roam to Telstra. 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