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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / August 2005Australian Ringtone Club
Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful privilege you have to pay $5 every week that you are signed up to them. The ad in question has a Australian Flag in the centre and two negro singers. No mention in the ad of how you opt out of it either on the ad. They just ask your mobile no. and carrier. Plus I think this lot were on the TV only recently because some schmuck felt it was their right to complain that they got dudded out of money for being stupid enough to sign up for ringtones. Gotta wonder though what the percentage of fools are that actually would sign up for these kind of things. > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful > privilege you have to pay $5 every week that you are signed up to > them. The ad in question has a Australian Flag in the centre and two > negro singers. The word "rings a bell" he he. Seriously I heard it somewhere. Not knowing what it means I guess I'm fairly safe. Totally fed up with "plans" and "offers" and "$0", and after all the bullshit I don't even know if the fax would work on a broadband line. > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Gotta wonder though what the percentage of fools are that actually > would sign up for these kind of things. Haven't seen it. Got a web link to check it out? > > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Haven't seen it. Got a web link to check it out? Doesn't present itself as a weblink just a java applet asking for number and carrier and a checkbox to say if you agree to their service......... > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Gotta wonder though what the percentage of fools are that actually > would sign up for these kind of things. Sounds like these guys: http://www.ringtonechannel.com, there's an earlier thread about how someone has accidentally joined me up to the service and the headache associated with getting my money back. > > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > thread about how someone has accidentally joined me up to the service and > the headache associated with getting my money back. Accidentally????? And did you get your money back? >> > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club >> > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Accidentally????? Most likely a typo. > And did you get your money back? Yes, today (supposedly). > >> > Has anyone seen that ad on the Net for an Australian Ringtone Club > >> > promising "1 Free Ringtone A Month" and yet to get this wonderful [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Yes, today (supposedly). Well please keep us posted How on earth can these companies be allowed to trade with such bad business practices?? ie: not returning communications to customers and fobbing them off or outright ignoring complaints Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? > Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? You could say they were smart business people. After all, if there's a huge market out there that's happy to pay the rip-off price of $4 or $5 or even more for a bloody *ringtone* - when the actual CD of the whole song sells for less - then one could argue that some people DESERVE to be ripped off :) But yes, I am very surprised that more regulation hasn't been brought down on this dodgy little cottage industry. Ditto for the $5 a minute "call me now" lines... > > Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > on this dodgy little cottage industry. Ditto for the $5 a minute "call me > now" lines... Amen >> Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > for less - then one could argue that some people DESERVE to be ripped off > :) Yes but its not just the 'voluntary' customers getting shafted.. it's the people who have their number accidentally keyed into a webform (or deliberately for that matter - I could do this to anyone I dislike and make them waste their time trying to locate the provider, stop the subscription and try and get their charges refunded). > Yes but its not just the 'voluntary' customers getting > shafted.. it's the people who have their number accidentally > keyed into a webform (or deliberately for that matter - I > could do this to anyone I dislike and make them waste their > time trying to locate the provider, stop the subscription and > try and get their charges refunded). How might this "industry" be regulated so that opt-in confirmation was required routinely? A confirming SMS from the subscribing mobile would be a reliable indicator only for honest providers, because incoming SMSs are relatively easy to fake. It could work though if penalties for fraudulently faking confirmation were high enough. John > Jeremy Quirke wrote >> Yes but its not just the 'voluntary' customers getting >> shafted.. it's the people who have their number accidentally >> keyed into a webform (or deliberately for that matter - I >> could do this to anyone I dislike and make them waste their >> time trying to locate the provider, stop the subscription and >> try and get their charges refunded). > How might this "industry" be regulated so that opt-in confirmation > was required routinely? A confirming SMS from the subscribing > mobile would be a reliable indicator only for honest providers, For all but the flagrantly dishonest, actually. > because incoming SMSs are relatively easy to fake. > It could work though if penalties for fraudulently > faking confirmation were high enough. Dont need to be that high, just enough of a deterrent to stop them bothering with that approach. Its very very unlikely that there is any real dishonesty involved, its MUCH more likely that its just a stupid entry error or at worst maliciously signing someone else up for the sh.t deliberately and that last isnt going to be caught by any regulation of providers. >> Jeremy Quirke wrote > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > sh.t deliberately and that last isnt going to be caught by any > regulation of providers. Agreed. But I wanted to cover the possibility, seeing that a lot of people seem to think that a "received" SMS must be exactly what it says it is. John > > Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > on this dodgy little cottage industry. Ditto for the $5 a minute "call me > now" lines... Thats a heavily-regulated industry, actually > > > Are they just $1 shelf companies set up by scum? > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thats a heavily-regulated industry, actually Err, How so? Example of such please |
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