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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / November 2005OPTUS cheaper credit loophole
I am sure by now everyone is heard of Turbocharge, I'll bet what they haven't heard is that you can transfer credit (although the receipts websites etc say you can't) to any normal plan such as free calls or something else and get 6 months to use the same card. If anyone is interested, I'd like to share $60 of credit for $15 (because I don't use the entire $120) or I'd sell $10 credit for $5 if anyone wants less. thanks for looking  SignatureUnkit > I am sure by now everyone is heard of Turbocharge, I'll bet what they > haven't heard is that you can transfer credit (although the receipts [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > thanks for looking Sounds like a scam to me! SignatureThe views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 I don't like being accused of introducing a scam If you would like to be satisfied that this is not a scam, take the following steps: - Buy a new Optus Connection Pack - Activate it on Optus - Register with Optus zoo, and log in - Click on transfer from me2u - type in an optus prepaid number - Watch the credit get transferred - Apologize for accusing this thread to be a scam. You have nothing to loose, because you won't be giving any money to me, unless you don't trust a company as big as optus, in which case, you probably think life is a scam. SignatureUnkit > I don't like being accused of introducing a scam If you would like to > be satisfied that this is not a scam, take the following steps: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > unless you don't trust a company as big as optus, in which case, you > probably think life is a scam. Your first post suggested you were asking for money. SignatureThe views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 You could interpret my first post in two ways, firstly that I was prepared to buy $60 credit for $15 or sell $60 credit for $15, and I have specified the method by which this becomes feasible. Whether you beleive it is a scam or not, I would refrain from stating that opinion until you atleast have SOME sort of facts to back it up. SignatureUnkit > You could interpret my first post in two ways, firstly that I was > prepared to buy $60 credit for $15 or sell $60 credit for $15, and I > have specified the method by which this becomes feasible. Whether you > beleive it is a scam or not, I would refrain from stating that opinion > until you atleast have SOME sort of facts to back it up. I had a look at your eBay ad and it explained exactly how you do this. I couldn't figure out why you would sell the air time cheaper than you can get it for. You recharge to make use of the free air-time and just pass on the credits to others for what you believe is a fair price. Very good idea, shame it wasn't explained in your earlier posts. Good Luck! SignatureThe views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 Any information regarding Greg can be sent to intruder@vk3xem.net > I had a look at your eBay ad and it explained exactly how you do this. > I couldn't figure out why you would sell the air time cheaper than you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > credits to others for what you believe is a fair price. Very good idea, > shame it wasn't explained in your earlier posts. I find his first post explained it much better. It's disingenuous to say he's just making use of the free air-time and onselling the $ value credit, he's exploiting a loophole in the Optus Turbocharge billing system. He pays Optus $50 for credit. Optus credits him $250 (as set out under the Turbocharge plan). He 'sells' $10 of credit for $5 - but the credit only cost him $2. I don't mind how you take it, but the simple fact is, I use the free minutes. Yes there is the opportunity to exploit the system, and most of the people do it on ebay. Just so you have your maths correct, it costs $2.50 not $2, Secondly, on ebay, I am selling the credit for $6 for $20 which is 50c more than it costs (or at the same price as you would pay on a $30 recharge). And thirdly, since you can't transfer more than $100 from an account in a month that sort of defeats the purpose of doing it. What is a smart thing to do is as mentioned in the second post. The whole point of the post was to inform people to exploit the plan. I did have an alterior motive ofcourse. (I was hoping that some optus person would read the post and fix the loophole) That way, my credit would be worth more. Tactical... Maybe, plain mean, definately not, why should some get to exploit optus why others dont. Hope you guys enjoy it. The best way to do it is still to buy a $30 recharge and use $100 to transfer, and $20 on the sim. SignatureUnkit > I don't mind how you take it, but the simple fact is, I use the free > minutes. What free minutes are they, exactly? TurboCharge doesn't offer 'free' minutes. > Just so you have your maths correct, it > costs $2.50 not $2 You're using a $30 recharge, fair enough. I'd made an assumption that you'd take the most cost-efficient recharge available, in which case you'd get credit at a 5:1 cost ($250:$50, $10:$2) > on ebay, I am selling the credit for $6 > for $20 which is 50c more than it costs (or at the same price as you > would pay on a $30 recharge). $20 credit costs $5.50 - how do you figure that? (Same price as on a $30 recharge? What are you on about?) At any rate, it seems you're selling $20 face value credit on eBay for $7 (99c plus $6.01 fake postage), not $6. Giles Wrote: > > I don't mind how you take it, but the simple fact is, I use the free > > minutes. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > At any rate, it seems you're selling $20 face value credit on eBay for > $7 (99c plus $6.01 fake postage), not $6. Ebay fees account for the 99c, as for the price I am selling it at, did you also notice the "fake postage" which is actually a transfer fee, (which you are allowed to charge according to ebay rules) reduces when you buy more than 1? All in all, it appears you have not actually tried the transfer, hence you are using simple maths to come up with an outcome, but you need to take into account the amount of unusuable credit. ($50, which basically makes it $200/$50 = 4 times the value, or $120/$30 = 4 times the value) SignatureUnkit > > I am not on the TURBOCHARGE plan... I am on the free minutes plan.... > > Just becaues I know about the turbocharge plan, does not mean that I am > > a user of it. Further down in your post, you talk about 120:30 value... it's obvious you're using TurboCharge for your little sales enterprise, irrespective of what your personal use plan is. > > You CANT use all > > the credit... Its obvious you haven't actually tried taking credit out > > of the No, I'd assumed you were siphoning credit out of your personal account, but it turns out it's a much more calculated scheme, with a separate account for exploiting Optus's system flaws. -> Not $5.50, 50c more per $10 (as > > you stated that I was selling $10 credit for $5, hence I was stating > > that I am selling it at a $1 premium overall (20/5 =4 times recharge > > value and 120/30=4 times recharge value)=It Not sure I can make much sense out of this, other than that you are indeed using TurboCharge to fund your scheme. > > At any rate, it seems you're selling $20 face value credit on eBay for > > $7 (99c plus $6.01 fake postage), not $6. > Ebay fees account for the 99c, as for the price I am selling it at, did > you also notice the "fake postage" which is actually a transfer fee, > (which you are allowed to charge according to ebay rules) reduces when > you buy more than 1? Mate, it doesn't disguise the fact that you're selling $20 face value for $7. Plenty of people dodge eBay's final listing costs by artificially inflating 'postage' - I'm not commenting on whether or not it's permitted... it simply remains that you've marked it as a postage fee when in fact, there's no postage required, and there's negligible transfer costs. > All in all, it appears you have not actually tried the transfer No, I haven't tried the transfer - I have no need to. I think it's just worth pointing out to people the inconsistencies in what you're presenting them, before they fork over their money. > you are using simple maths to come up with an outcome, but you need to > take into account the amount of unusuable credit. ($50, which > basically makes it $200/$50 = 4 times the value, or $120/$30 = 4 times > the value) I assume, by this, you mean you can't SELL all of the credit. Shame, that. You are entitled to your own opinion as it is a free country. In my opinion, your post just goes to show that stupidity knows no limits, because it assumes that simply because I have knowledge about how to do something, I must do it. In any event if for $1.50, or even $3 as you suggest, if someone wasted 1/2 an hour of their time selling $20 credit, it would be well below the minimum wage. SignatureUnkit So just what exactly is the problem with that? Apart from confusing his second post' motive (to demonstrate viability of the process) with his first post. >> You have nothing to loose, because you won't be giving any money to me, >> unless you don't trust a company as big as optus, in which case, you >> probably think life is a scam. > > Your first post suggested you were asking for money. I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html this is already happening on ebay > So just what exactly is the problem with that? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html So if I gave you $10 via PayPal, you would transfer Turbocharged credit of $40 to my phone. Does it only require my mobile number and that's all? Not sure how paypal works, If you use ebay, go to http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5829354598&sspagename=ADME :B:AAQ:AU:1 and do a buy now. If not, then post another message. SignatureUnkit Maybe we could do it face to face. Where do you live? > Not sure how paypal works, If you use ebay, go to http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5829354598&sspagename= ADME:B:AAQ:AU:1 > and do a buy now. If not, then post another message. > > -- > Unkit I am in Townsville. But this will be the last one I can do this month, and now No one else will offer it to you. Hehehehehhe, Optus cancelled the ability to do it. ankit SignatureUnkit > I am in Townsville. But this will be the last one I can do this month, > and now No one else will offer it to you. Hehehehehhe, Optus cancelled > the ability to do it. Bugger! I just discovered the Optus-Zoo will let you transfer from optus-prepaid to Isim. But now the fine-print says you cannot transfer credit from a turbo-charge plan. Is that the end of it? T&C: "Customers on the TurboCharge offer cannot transfer credit to tother customers but may receive credit from other customers." I am on free calls, So Optus blocking the service doesn't really affect me. I can still offer you credit at 50% of retail. Let me know if you are interested by asking a question on the following ebay listing. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5835146196&rd=1&sspagename =STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 The price on the listing says $7 per $10 but I will give it to you for $5 for $10 if you buy more than $30 worth. SignatureUnkit > I am sure by now everyone is heard of Turbocharge, I'll bet what they > haven't heard is that you can transfer credit (although the receipts > websites etc say you can't) to any normal plan such as free calls or > something else and get 6 months to use the same card. Can you still transfer credit from a turbo-charge plan? The T&C fine print says: "Customers on the TurboCharge offer cannot transfer credit to tother customers but may receive credit from other customers." I was able to transfer credit from Optus prepaid to ISim. |
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