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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / August 2006Wota pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 heh, before I even clicked the link the name 'Sol Trujillo' popped into my mind > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 >heh, before I even clicked the link the name 'Sol Trujillo' popped into my >mind >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 Before I even opened the article in my newsreader, I thought "one line precis by Rod". I was wrong, zero lines.  SignatureChris, i wonder what will happen to telstra when the power companies start adding phone and internet over power? i hear its going well in tassie > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > i wonder what will happen to telstra when the power companies start adding phone and > internet over power? Nothing, you watch. > i hear its going well in tassie Like hell it is as far as ever being competitive with adsl is concerned. THATS what matters. >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > i wonder what will happen to telstra when the power companies start adding > phone and internet over power? Nothing will happen to Telstra, because its been done for years now > i hear its going well in tassie Nope Data has to come in and go out through someone. Telstra will still get income. What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that they are going to do it and if they do, it will be interesting to have wireless broadband, efficiently, everywhere in Oz near a town of any size. No need for ADSL up a phone line. Whoever gets it first is going to get a massive amount of users!! >i wonder what will happen to telstra when the power companies start adding >phone and internet over power? > > i hear its going well in tassie > >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > Data has to come in and go out through someone. Not necessarily telstra tho. > Telstra will still get income. Not necessarily. > What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that they are going to do it > and if they do, it will be interesting to have wireless broadband, efficiently, > everywhere in Oz near a town of any size. Any shared bandwidth system has to be worse than a non shared one. Those mindlessly rabbiting of about the alleged slowness of adsl clearly hasnt used a wireless system. > No need for ADSL up a phone line. Whoever gets it first is going to get a massive amount > of users!! Nope, there's a few fundamental reasons why most arent bothering. >> i wonder what will happen to telstra when the power companies start >> adding phone and internet over power? >> >> i hear its going well in tassie >> >>> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 >> Data has to come in and go out through someone. > > Not necessarily telstra tho. Errr Rod you are wrong on that one. Data definitely DOES have to come in and go out through someone. >> Telstra will still get income. > > Not necessarily. Sure as eggs, they will get income. >> What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that they are >> going to do it and if they do, it will be interesting to have wireless >> broadband, efficiently, everywhere in Oz near a town of any size. > > Any shared bandwidth system has to be worse than a non shared one. Depends on the reliability and speed at which you get it. In the case of wireless broadband that actually is efficient and not the sh.t we have now, it may also depend on your need to have internet anywhere. > Those mindlessly rabbiting of about the alleged slowness > of adsl clearly hasnt used a wireless system. I havent used wireless broadband, definitely. >> No need for ADSL up a phone line. Whoever gets it first is going to get a >> massive amount of users!! > > Nope, there's a few fundamental reasons why most arent bothering. One being that wi-max isnt around yet in Oz mainland (excluding Tas)? > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Data has to come in and go out through someone. >> Not necessarily telstra tho. > Errr Rod you are wrong on that one. I am never ever wrong. > Data definitely DOES have to come in and go out through someone. Never said it doesnt, stupid. >>> Telstra will still get income. >> Not necessarily. > Sure as eggs, they will get income. Not with data that doesnt go anywhere near telstra they wont. >>> What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that they >>> are going to do it and if they do, it will be interesting to have wireless broadband, >>> efficiently, everywhere in Oz near a town of any size. >> Any shared bandwidth system has to be worse than a non shared one. > Depends on the reliability and speed at which you get it. Nope, depends on what bandwidth is available to be shared. > In the case of wireless broadband that actually is efficient and not the sh.t we have > now, Mindless pig ignorant silly stuff. > it may also depend on your need to have internet anywhere. No may about it. >> Those mindlessly rabbiting of about the alleged slowness >> of adsl clearly hasnt used a wireless system. > I havent used wireless broadband, definitely. Your problem. >>> No need for ADSL up a phone line. Whoever gets it first is going to get a massive >>> amount of users!! >> Nope, there's a few fundamental reasons why most arent bothering. > One being that wi-max isnt around yet in Oz mainland (excluding Tas)? There's a few fundamental reasons why most arent bothering and that one isnt one of them. > Data has to come in and go out through someone. Telstra will still get > income. What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that they > are going to do it and if they do, it will be interesting to have wireless > broadband, efficiently, everywhere in Oz near a town of any size. No need > for ADSL up a phone line. Whoever gets it first is going to get a massive > amount of users!! If, and it's a bloody big if, they do it at the right price. Years ago, when FoxTel was starting out in Oz, I, and many, _many_ others told them that to get good penetration they needed a basic subscription model with a "pick what other channels you want" mix, with channels grouped in cost, and packaged as well, such as "all the sports channels" for $xx, but allow for someone who wanted, say, the horse racing and a premium movie channel and a comedy channel, at individual prices. Of course, the morons thought they would make more money by forcing people to buy *big* packages to get all the channels they want, which, of course, they didn't, so take-up of cable in Oz is minimal, as are profits. No doubt saner heads will prevail in the WiMAX roll out... (But I, for one, am not holding my breath) Cheers, Gary B-) Signature______________________________________________________________________________ Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know whether you were up them with or not - Barry Humphries >> Data has to come in and go out through someone. Telstra will still >> get income. What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > channels they want, which, of course, they didn't, so take-up of > cable in Oz is minimal, as are profits. The real reason that payTV takeup is poor is because our free to air TV is pretty decent and they dont offer much more than what you can get for free. > No doubt saner heads will prevail in the WiMAX roll out... Bet it wont, largely because telstra has driven down the cost of adsl to barely more than dialup if you use the net much. THAT is what is the killer for WiMAX and what will see it mostly get used by those who cant get adsl or who need portabability. > (But I, for one, am not holding my breath) Bugger. >> Data has to come in and go out through someone. Telstra will still get >> income. What is better than power lines is wi-max. The RUMOUR is that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > If, and it's a bloody big if, they do it at the right price. True. Not going to pay a bucketload for something new and unusual. > Years ago, when FoxTel was starting out in Oz, I, and many, _many_ others > told them that to get good penetration they needed a basic subscription [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > buy *big* packages to get all the channels they want, which, of course, > they didn't, so take-up of cable in Oz is minimal, as are profits. Anyone with half a mind could see that idea had sense. There are very few sports that interest me and I like to be entertained when I turn the TV on. That's one reason I dont watch it weekends during the day if I am home (excepting since the Bogey stuff started). > No doubt saner heads will prevail in the WiMAX roll out... (But I, for > one, am not holding my breath) I sincerely doubt it. I know some stories from the Optus F.O. rollout. One glaring one - they thought they were finished so shafted the guy who did most of the planning and a hell of a lot of work. Just told him "last day today" and he was an employee (high money). So he finished, went elsewhere where things were fine but not fabulous and 3 months later got a phone call telling him that he HAS to come back as if he didn't have a choice. He told them "No F'n way unless you double my salary" and without hesitation they said "OK" so he went back. They paid more in the 18 months thereafter than they would have if they had common sense. But can you say why he is a "pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist"?. > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > But can you say why he is a "pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist"?. 'Born' that way, has no option on that. >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > > But can you say why he is a "pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist"?. > > 'Born' that way, has no option on that. Of course, I would assume that you, personally, would take into account that he is not a Anglo-Saxon, which I would not have a problem with! > >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > Rod Speed wrote >>> But can you say why he is a "pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist"?. >> 'Born' that way, has no option on that. > Of course, I would assume that you, personally, > would take into account that he is not a Anglo-Saxon, More fool you. > which I would not have a problem with! More fool you. >>>> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 virgmob007@netscape.net committed to the eternal aether...: >>> But can you say why he is a "pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist"?. >> >> 'Born' that way, has no option on that. > > Of course, I would assume that you, personally, would take into account > that he is not a Anglo-Saxon, which I would not have a problem with! Where the hell did that come from? What has race to do with the current discussion? I'm having trouble working out what your point is, mostly because of your shocking diction and cryptically constructed sentence. > virgmob007@netscape.net committed to the eternal aether...: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I'm having trouble working out what your point is, mostly because of your > shocking diction and cryptically constructed sentence. If you're familiar enough with Mr Speed, it makes perfect sense. Signature"I stand confirmed" - V©, AKA nigel howe: Internet Guru and business savvy 'CEO' of the vibrant & ever expanding vISP 'HyperOz' > virgmob007@netscape.net committed to the eternal aether...: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I'm having trouble working out what your point is, mostly because of your > shocking diction and cryptically constructed sentence. I realize that it is not politically correct to do so but I think that race is ultimately of fundamental importance in regard to many important aspects of life; but I will not elaborate on that as it is too complex. Most people will have to learn that the hard way, as is evident from the many news stories we read today that have a racial component in some way. As far as Sol Trujillo is concerned, the fact that he is not an Anglo-Saxon could be just a coincidence in relation to his apparent record of failure in America (although he did a good job of looking after his personal interests!), and the fact that he causes disquiet in Australia. Moreover if Rod Speed has a low opinion of him then that is good enough for me! I will just give one web link dealing with the subject of race: http://www.vdare.com/pb/bell_curve_10yrs.htm > As far as Sol Trujillo is concerned, the fact that he is not an > Anglo-Saxon could be just a coincidence in relation to his apparent > record of failure in America (although he did a good job of looking > after his personal interests!) ¿qué? :p (OK, dumb Mexican impersonation over) > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 Apparently they has everything worked out for this fibre network to get them their $$$. 6mps? My internet is already faster than that. > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > Apparently they has everything worked out for this fibre network to get them their $$$. Yep, it was always about shafting their competition. > 6mps? My internet is already faster than that. It was about a much better speed than that, over 20mps. > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 Rod Speed originating a threat? Must be an imposter. Sylvia. > http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 Rod Speed originating a thread? Must be an imposter. Sylvia. Sylvia Else committed to the eternal aether...: >> http://businesssunday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=121677 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sylvia. He originates a few in aus.computers, often to ask a question believe it or not. I'm not a Speed apologist, just setting the record straight. |
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