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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / October 2006Telstra to turn on 3G marvel next month
"TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." in today's issue of www.smh.com.au > "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion > third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier > than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." Thats a very accurate date indeed. Michael, at last you have given us some information - (that's all we ask for considering this is a *news* group). I think it will be an interesting and hopefully successful debut for the new network. Thanks >> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion >> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months >> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." > > Thats a very accurate date indeed. It will be a success! Nobody will be able to use it, therefore, nobody will be able to criticize it ;-) > Michael, > at last you have given us some information - (that's all we ask for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." >> Thats a very accurate date indeed. Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional areas who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd be going 3G in the near future? >> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion >> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months >> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." > > Thats a very accurate date indeed. > Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional areas > who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd be going > 3G in the near future? 3G 850 _is_ UMTS. Things like the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at 850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon. :) PD  SignaturePaul Day Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/ >> Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional >> areas [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd > have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon. ......and have a case to return and get a refund or complain to TIO SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > 3G 850 _is_ UMTS. Things like the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at > 850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd > have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon. :) My local Telstra shop tried to sell me a v3x by telling me that it did support the new network... Paul Day stated what I was thinking, "the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at 850MHz" if you check its specifications. > Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional > areas who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Thats a very accurate date indeed. Oh well, at lest the GSM coverage is better than Bloody Virgin/Floptus > Paul Day stated what I was thinking, "the V3X don't support > 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at 850MHz" if you check its specifications. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>> >>> Thats a very accurate date indeed. and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible > "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion > third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier > than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." > > in today's issue of www.smh.com.au You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage. > and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au > You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate > JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the > existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage. They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found them using a Google search). >> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate >> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found them > using a Google search). Those bands are the GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands that it supports. It ADDITIONALLY supports the 850, 1900, 2100 3GSM bands. i.e. EVERY GSM/3GSM band used globally so it's perfect for travelling. http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx >>> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate >>> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx I think you're right. Looking through the specs they list, it would be clearer if they didn't describe the 3G function of it as both WCDMA and 3GSM. >>>> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate >>>> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > clearer if they didn't describe the 3G function of it as both WCDMA and > 3GSM. Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not aware of the technology and standards. Sure, it can also be called UMTS/W-CDMA, but the GSM association has officially designated 3GSM as the correct marketing label for 3rd generation GSM services using the UMTS/W-CDMA standard. Merely calling it UMTS (as some handset manufacturers do) is confusing as there are multiple variations of UMTS that have nothing to do with the GSM standards and W-CDMA is just a label for a wider than usual CDMA radio interface protocol. For iMate to label the 3GSM band support as W-CDMA is as meaningless as labelling the 2GSM band support as "TDMA". Oh well, that's what you get when you combine clueless marketing droids with engineers that can't write a single word in English. > Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not aware of > the technology and standards. I accept everything else you say, but the term 3GSM could cause some confusion for some people. Many people know of the distance limitation of GSM. Calling it 3GSM will surely cause confusion about its range. In rural areas, range would be the main reason many people would want to connect to this new network. I guess it's both GSM and WCDMA and neither. It would be nice if they'd given it a better name, but I suppose that outside of Australia and perhaps North America, there are few countries which use the existing GSM where range is much of an issue. >> Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not aware of >> the technology and standards. > > I accept everything else you say, but the term 3GSM could cause some > confusion for some people. Many people know of the distance limitation of > GSM. Calling it 3GSM will surely cause confusion about its range. Nope > >> Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not > >> aware of the technology and standards. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nope Of course it will. You're average user might know about GSM's distance limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not TDMA. PD SignaturePaul Day Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/ >> >> Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not >> >> aware of the technology and standards. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not > TDMA. Average Joe doesn't care for acronyms, they dont call it "GSM". They call it "digital", "CDMA", and now "3G" Youre out of touch with the common man Paul Day wrote: > Of course it will. You're average user might know about GSM's distance > limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not > TDMA. And most users won't know what the f.ck TDMA, WCDMA, UTMS and all these other abbreviations that people are throwing about there, mean. I certainly don't, and I don't really care. As long as when I rock up to a phone dealer, say that I want a phone that I can use anywhere outside of the major metro centres, the dealer can supply me with an appropriate phone. When I'm trying to find out exactly what's available for either the current or the new 3G service, I'm fronted with an array of techno-babbleish terms that really don't tell me anything. And some sites don't even tell you what freqs that their phones operate on. The marketting people really have a long way to go with respect to making this more easily understood, and hence, (and more importantly), for the consumer to be able to make an informed choice as to what product he or she needs, not what the dealer's going to sell them. There's a difference between buying something, and having something sold to you. >> Of course it will. You're average user might know about GSM's distance >> limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not >> TDMA. > > And most users won't know what the f.ck TDMA, WCDMA, UTMS and all these > other abbreviations that people are throwing about there, mean. Agreed >>> Of course it will. You're average user might know about GSM's distance >>> limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Agreed Most people won't know what those abbreviations mean. Many people know about the 35 km limit with standard GSM services. Most GSM phones have GSM printed on them somewhere. If a service is identified as 3GSM, there is definately room for confusion. They're producing two different products with two very similar names. If there's no chance of similar names causing confusion, we could just call it AMPS, and naturally everyone would know that this AMPS was totally different from the original AMPS >>>> Of course it will. You're average user might know about GSM's distance >>>> limit but is far less likely to know that 3GSM is based on CDMA, not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Most people won't know what those abbreviations mean. Many people know > about the 35 km limit with standard GSM services. Most GSM phones have Very few people know of a hard limit, and the actual km. They know it just doesnt work as well as AMPS or CDMA does > GSM printed on them somewhere. If a service is identified as 3GSM, there > is definately room for confusion. They're producing two different No room for confusion > products with two very similar names. > > If there's no chance of similar names causing confusion, we could just > call it AMPS, and naturally everyone would know that this AMPS was totally > different from the original AMPS That would be completely f.cked Graeme said.... > I accept everything else you say, but the term 3GSM could cause some > confusion for some people. Many people know of the distance limitation > of GSM. Calling it 3GSM will surely cause confusion about its range. > In rural areas, range would be the main reason many people would want to > connect to this new network. Do we know this for sure? I've asked people what phones they own and why. A lot of GSMs and a lot own CDMAs. I ask why they have CDMAs. Better coverage, they say. They aren't all familiar with the technical aspects as to why coverage is "better". I'd suggest that it's a pretty long bow to draw to say that people are familiar with the distances that GSM and CDMA cells respectively cover. > Graeme said.... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'd suggest that it's a pretty long bow to draw to say that people are > familiar with the distances that GSM and CDMA cells respectively cover. If you go outside of the larger cities, people are very familiar with coverage distances of CDMA vs GSM. From what I've read in here, the 850 mhz service will exist in urban areas, too, but Telstra only seem to have promoted the services it will provide to "the bush". After all, most of the services it will provide can already be found for people with a 2100 mhz service. Graeme said.... > coverage distances of CDMA vs GSM. From what I've read in here, the 850 > mhz service will exist in urban areas, too, but Telstra only seem to It'd have to. Otherwise, those who rely on the 850 and travel to the Big Smoke would be f.cked, coverage-wise. I still don't understand why Telstra can't roll out one standardised system and be done with it. If 850 is the go at the moment, then roll it out and close down all other services. Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable in metro areas? Anyway, after playing around with my daughter's 3G phone (she's with "3") when visiting her recently, I'm now keen to up-gadget my phone. I used to say that all I needed was a basic phone that did SMS, and a little more. But seeing how quick the 'net side of things are, and some of the features that these phones have, they're looking more attractive. What I'd love is the ability to check the weather radar when I'm out on a weekend ride somewhere. Of course, this'd only be of any use if there is coverage. > Graeme said.... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It'd have to. Otherwise, those who rely on the 850 and travel to the Big > Smoke would be f.cked, coverage-wise. Well who knows what Telstra are thinking. It was only fairly recently (within the last 2 years or so) that Telstra arranged outbound international roaming on CDMA, apparently because they perceived there was no demand for it. > I still don't understand why Telstra can't roll out one standardised > system and be done with it. If 850 is the go at the moment, then roll it > out and close down all other services. > > Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable in > metro areas? I have no idea. I would hope not. Many people "in the bush" use high gain antennas to maximise their coverage. Antennas work best on the frequency they're designed for. If the service runs on 850 mhz in rural / remote areas and 2100 mhz in urban / metro areas, I'm not sure those people will have good coverage in the city unless they buy a new antenna. Time will tell, I guess. > Emjaye wrote >>> coverage distances of CDMA vs GSM. From what I've read in here, the 850 mhz service will exist >>> in urban areas, too, >> It'd have to. Otherwise, those who rely on the 850 and travel to the Big Smoke would be f.cked, >> coverage-wise. > Well who knows what Telstra are thinking. I doubt even the Mex does, the even the mex isnt actually THAT stupid. > It was only fairly recently (within the last 2 years or so) that Telstra arranged outbound > international roaming on CDMA, apparently because they perceived there was no demand for it. >> I still don't understand why Telstra can't roll out one standardised >> system and be done with it. If 850 is the go at the moment, then >> roll it out and close down all other services. They obviously can, but it would make no sense given that GSM is so much better choice of handsets wise. >> Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable in metro areas? Nope, tho its not ideal there, GSM is much better suited to those. > I have no idea. I would hope not. Many people "in the bush" use high gain antennas to maximise > their coverage. Antennas work best on the frequency they're designed for. If the service runs on > 850 mhz in rural / remote areas and 2100 mhz in urban / metro areas, I'm not sure those people > will have good coverage in the city unless they buy a new antenna. Its more complicated than that antenna wise. And you dont need high performance antennas in the city anyway. City services are optimised completely differently. > Time will tell, I guess. Yep, remains to be seen if the Mex's all singing and dancing new alternative will even get widely used. I doubt it myself given the inevitable poor choice of handsets and it remains to be seen if Telstra will even shut down the CDMA system or whether the regulator will even allow that. Gunna be fascinating to watch what sort of sh.t fight eventuates on that in the runup to the next federal election. Its looking very like the govt has decided to put the boot into Telstra and the mex. WAY past time, he should have got the bums rush long ago. >> Emjaye wrote > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > dont need high performance antennas in the city anyway. > City services are optimised completely differently. I realise that. If people already have one attached to their car kit, I'm just wondering how well or otherwise it will actually work in the city, given the difference in frequency. Then again, they already have 850 mhz spectrum in the urban areas too. If the handsets they provide do work on 850 mhz and 2100 mhz 3G bands, maybe they'll set it up like they have GSM where it registers on 900 mhz and only uses 1800 mhz when necessary. >> Time will tell, I guess. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > WAY past time, he should have got the bums rush long ago. It's pretty obscene how the Telstra board justified paying him all those millions yet the other day they announced a reduction in payments to rural contractor for installations. Maybe the board needs the boot too. > Rod Speed wrote >>> Emjaye wrote >>>>> coverage distances of CDMA vs GSM. From what I've read in here, the 850 mhz service will >>>>> exist in urban areas, too, >>>> It'd have to. Otherwise, those who rely on the 850 and travel to the Big Smoke would be f.cked, >>>> coverage-wise. >>> Well who knows what Telstra are thinking. >> I doubt even the Mex does, the even the mex isnt actually THAT stupid. >>> It was only fairly recently (within the last 2 years or so) that >>> Telstra arranged outbound international roaming on CDMA, apparently because they perceived there >>> was no demand for it. >>>> I still don't understand why Telstra can't roll out one standardised system and be done with >>>> it. If 850 is the go at the moment, then >>>> roll it out and close down all other services. >> They obviously can, but it would make no sense given >> that GSM is so much better choice of handsets wise. >>>> Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable >>>> in metro areas? >> Nope, tho its not ideal there, GSM is much better suited to those. >>> I have no idea. I would hope not. Many people "in the bush" use >>> high gain antennas to maximise their coverage. Antennas work best >>> on the frequency they're designed for. If the service runs on 850 >>> mhz in rural / remote areas and 2100 mhz in urban / metro areas, >>> I'm not sure those people will have good coverage in the city >>> unless they buy a new antenna. >> Its more complicated than that antenna wise. And you >> dont need high performance antennas in the city anyway. >> City services are optimised completely differently. > I realise that. If people already have one attached to their car kit, I'm just wondering how well > or otherwise it will actually work in the city, given the difference in frequency. Should work fine if its properly designed and the system does actually use 2100 in the citys. > Then again, they already have 850 mhz spectrum in the urban areas too. Precisely. > If the handsets they provide do work on 850 mhz and 2100 mhz 3G bands, That isnt clear yet. > maybe they'll set it up like they have GSM where it registers on 900 mhz and only uses 1800 mhz > when necessary. Or maybe they wont bother and they'll just use 850 mhz for the few hayseeds that need to use them there. >>> Time will tell, I guess. >> Yep, remains to be seen if the Mex's all singing and dancing >> new alternative will even get widely used. I doubt it myself >> given the inevitable poor choice of handsets and it remains >> to be seen if Telstra will even shut down the CDMA system >> or whether the regulator will even allow that. >> Gunna be fascinating to watch what sort of sh.t fight >> eventuates on that in the runup to the next federal election. >> Its looking very like the govt has decided >> to put the boot into Telstra and the mex. >> WAY past time, he should have got the bums rush long ago. > It's pretty obscene how the Telstra board justified paying him all those millions Yep, McGauchie is a terminal fuckwit. He's on the Hardie's board too. > yet the other day they announced a reduction in payments to rural contractor for installations. > Maybe the board needs the boot too. Sure, but thats quite a bit harder to do without the sh.t hitting the fan very spectacularly indeed. >>> Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable in metro areas? > > Nope, tho its not ideal there, GSM is much better suited to those. I thought one of the very reasons CDMA and WCDMA is used extensively in countries such as South Korea and Japan was due to CDMA's ability to employ technologies such as cell breathing and decreased voice quality at the gain of network bandwidth, in practice cramming huge call volumes through a small geographic area? > Rod Speed wrote >>>> Or are there technical issues that won't allow 850 3G to be viable in metro areas? >> Nope, tho its not ideal there, GSM is much better suited to those. > I thought one of the very reasons CDMA and WCDMA is used extensively in countries such as South > Korea and Japan was due to CDMA's ability to employ technologies such as cell breathing and > decreased voice quality at the gain of network bandwidth, in practice cramming huge call volumes > through a small geographic area? Nope, its much more complicated than that in practice. > Graeme said.... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'd suggest that it's a pretty long bow to draw to say that people are > familiar with the distances that GSM and CDMA cells respectively cover. agreed Kubalister said.... > Oh well, that's what you get when you combine clueless marketing droids > with engineers that can't write a single word in English. How should it be presented, then? For example, let's pretend that I know f.ck all about this technology (which is fairly close to the truth). I need to be able to make an informed consumer decision as to what I need to do pretty soon. How would you explain to me how this service works, what phones will work on the service when they're released, and when doing a search on the internet, what are the specs that I should be looking for in order to select the right phone? A classic example of misleading information is the chap here who was told that the Razor 3VX (or whatever it's called) phone that he bought would work on any 3G service. > > They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on > > www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx And just to stuff them all up, the US spectrum auctions have been just completed for frequencies that could be used for the new UMTS 1.7/2.1 band, which is incompatible with UMTS 2100. Americans always have to do it differently. > And just to stuff them all up, the US spectrum auctions have been just > completed for frequencies that could be used for the new UMTS 1.7/2.1 > band, which is incompatible with UMTS 2100. Americans always have to > do it differently. Exactly and then they whine about not being able to take their phones overseas. They think the Universe revolves around them but they are mistaken. -- The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452> Kubalister wrote: > You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate > JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the > existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage. Had a look at one yesterday. You can get it on an $80/mth plan, or choose a plan of your liking and pay the phone or, or buy it outright. It's a heavy, bulky unit. Dunno if it has a case or anything, as I wasn't interested in trying it out. I prefer the Palm platform for PDA stuff. > It's a heavy, bulky unit. Dunno if it has a case or anything, as I > wasn't interested in trying it out. I prefer the Palm platform for PDA > stuff. Rumours of a new Treo before the end of the year that'll include 850MHz 3GSM, aren't there? PD SignaturePaul Day Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/ >> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate >> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's a heavy, bulky unit. Dunno if it has a case or anything, as I wasn't > interested in trying it out. I prefer the Palm platform for PDA stuff. Had a look at it today. Doesnt look bulky at all. Dunno about heavy, just saw the demo model Michael wrote: >> It's a heavy, bulky unit. Dunno if it has a case or anything, as I > Had a look at it today. Doesnt look bulky at all. Dunno about heavy, > just saw the demo model Matter of opinion, I s'pose. For a phone it was bulky, about the same size, folded up or however it expands out, as my Palm Zire. Pity though, that its OS is based on Windows. I'd much prefer a PalmOS based unit. Maybe ... maybe not. Ask Michael, or wait until next month to see. > and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au > and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible The handsets are available on launch, dummy I suppose we'll find out tomorrow if they were right... > "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion > third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier > than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." > > in today's issue of www.smh.com.au Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. > I suppose we'll find out tomorrow if they were right... > >> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 >> billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three >> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest >> in T3." in today's issue of www.smh.com.au > Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest >>> in T3." in today's issue of www.smh.com.au Telstra's website shows a promotion for the "Next G" network. It allows people to register to be notified when it's launched. That doesn't suggest to me that they're quite ready to officially launch it. > Telstra's website shows a promotion for the "Next G" network. It > allows people to register to be notified when it's launched. That > doesn't suggest to me that they're quite ready to officially launch > it. Been showing that for well over a week. Who's to say it won't change to "It's here!" after The Mex makes his big announcement today? PD SignaturePaul Day Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/ Paul Day wrote: >> Telstra's website shows a promotion for the "Next G" network. It >> allows people to register to be notified when it's launched. That [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Been showing that for well over a week. Who's to say it won't change to > "It's here!" after The Mex makes his big announcement today? Just visited the Telstra website. It has a "Telstra 850" phone which is now available. I'm looking at it. Dunno who makes it. Looks flashy enough, though. Doesn't mean that it's any good, of course. Also trying to find what areas of coverage there is. No luck, so far. It's my upgrade path. But I'm loathe to turn off my CDMA phone only to find that the new service has limited, if any, coverage. >>> Telstra's website shows a promotion for the "Next G" network. It >>> allows people to register to be notified when it's launched. That [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's my upgrade path. But I'm loathe to turn off my CDMA phone only to > find that the new service has limited, if any, coverage. If any? What kind of an idiot are you? You think there isnt one base station on?! EVERY CDMA base now has a 3G 850 transmitter on it. From launch Michael wrote: >> find that the new service has limited, if any, coverage. > > If any? What kind of an idiot are you? Sames kind as you, perhaps? > You think there isnt one base station on?! No. I am saying that it would be annoying that what if cells that are turned on wouldn't be where I would rely on them for coverage. > EVERY CDMA base now has a 3G 850 transmitter on it. > From launch Yeah, well, we're not in the priviliged position such as yourself to know such finer details. If this is the case then CDMA can be switched off tomorrow, given that Telstra has repeatedly said that CDMA will be turned off when 850 coverage is the same or better than CDMA. Anyway, I think that I'll wait. New technology invariably has bugs in it and relies on the paying customers to "beta test" it. Besides, none of the phones have all the features that I need. > Rod Speed wrote >> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. >>> I suppose we'll find out tomorrow if they were right... >>>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 >>>> billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three >>>> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik >>>> interest in T3." in today's issue of www.smh.com.au > Telstra's website shows a promotion for the "Next G" network. It > allows people to register to be notified when it's launched. That > doesn't suggest to me that they're quite ready to officially launch it. Sure, but nothing would surprise me with the stupid f.cks who do that pathetic excuse for a web site. They cant even manage a decent search, let alone keep track of what the mex is up to. >> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > people to register to be notified when it's launched. That doesn't > suggest to me that they're quite ready to officially launch it. Wake up Jack. Its been switched on for days. All the plans were released today >>> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Wake up Jack. Its been switched on for days. All the plans were released > today How do you suppose anyone would know it has been "switched on for days" if the plans were only available to consumers from today? Graeme Willox wrote: > How do you suppose anyone would know it has been "switched on for days" > if the plans were only available to consumers from today? Michael's a pretentious twat who has this opinion that if you don't have the same "inside" info as he then you're an idiot. Says a lot for a lot of the people who allegedy work for Telstra. >>>> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > How do you suppose anyone would know it has been "switched on for days" if > the plans were only available to consumers from today? There is a difference b/w the network being on, and plans being sold Michael wrote: > Wake up Jack. Its been switched on for days. If this is the case, how has Telstra been testing the network during its commissioning phase? Or does it hope that when it's turned on that it'll work "out of the box"? >> Wake up Jack. Its been switched on for days. > > If this is the case, how has Telstra been testing the network during its > commissioning phase? Or does it hope that when it's turned on that it'll > work "out of the box"? They use specific test base stations for one. The whole network was switched on when indicated > Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. Officially announced to the ASX an hour or so ago :) > Rod Speed wrote >> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. > Officially announced to the ASX an hour or so ago :) Bugger, I was hoping he was planning to say he was going home |-) > Rod Speed wrote >> Yep, since the mex is sposed to be doing the spruik today. > Officially announced to the ASX an hour or so ago :) Looks like Optarse sabotaged the actual presentation http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1757096.htm >I suppose we'll find out tomorrow if they were right... Of course they were >> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion >> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months >> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3." >> >> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au |
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