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RdrrRdrrr - 29 Oct 2006 11:12 GMT

http://www.quiz2win.net/quiz2win/au/explanation.html

The website says that they can time how quickly you reply to an SMS
after you open it.

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It is worth noting that the clock starts from the time that you open
the text message to the time that you send a reply.
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Is this bullshit? They can't tell when I open an SMS on you mobile.

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Anthony Horan - 29 Oct 2006 14:20 GMT

> http://www.quiz2win.net/quiz2win/au/explanation.html
>
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>
> Is this bullshit? They can't tell when I open an SMS on you mobile.

They are perhaps assuming delivery reports work in this country, which they
don't :)

It's a scam, regardless. Stay well away. Gotta love this in the terms and
conditions...

"Winners will be contacted via phone to the participating mobile telephone
number in which they have been participating with. If the winner does not
answer their phone after two attempts, the prize will be allocated to the
participant in second place."

That's a whole new level of dodgy.

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Simon Templar - 30 Oct 2006 04:22 GMT

> They are perhaps assuming delivery reports work in this country, which they
> don't :)
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>
> That's a whole new level of dodgy.

Delivery reports actually do work on the 3 Network, BUT it only
indicates the time the SMS was DELIVERED, and NOT the time it was opened.

Just another SCAM.

--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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RdrrRdrrr - 30 Oct 2006 11:12 GMT

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>Just another SCAM.

Thanks. I thought that there is no way they can tell when you OPEN a
SMS. Why can we get these scamer stopped, when they are obviously
bloody scams! What can you do?

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Emjaye - 01 Nov 2006 06:14 GMT

Simon said....

> Delivery reports actually do work on the 3 Network, BUT it only
> indicates the time the SMS was DELIVERED, and NOT the time it was opened.

Who receives this report - the person sending the SMS? ie. after he
sends an SMS he receives another confirming that the phone received it?
If so, does the phone receiving it send back notification, or is it all
relied on the SMS servers doing this? And if so, how do THEY know that
it was successfully received?

Oh, as you said that it works on 3, is this only between 3 customers?
Or, if I send my daughter an SMS who is on 3, will I receive a report
back to my NextG phone?

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Simon Templar - 01 Nov 2006 13:16 GMT

> Simon said....

>> Delivery reports actually do work on the 3 Network, BUT it only
>> indicates the time the SMS was DELIVERED, and NOT the time it was opened.
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> relied on the SMS servers doing this? And if so, how do THEY know that
> it was successfully received?

The person sending the SMS (from the 3 Network) will receive a
notification when the message is delivered to the other person's phone.
This notification is received from all Australian mobile networks.

> Oh, as you said that it works on 3, is this only between 3 customers?
> Or, if I send my daughter an SMS who is on 3, will I receive a report
> back to my NextG phone?

Unless Tel$tra decided to enable the feature you will not receive any
notifications on your handset (provided it is enabled in your handset).

From memory Vodafone enabled this feature some years ago, but started
charging an SMS fee for the service!

--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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John Henderson - 01 Nov 2006 19:50 GMT

> Simon said....
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> doing this? And if so, how do THEY know that it was
> successfully received?

SMSs are delivered by the SMSC (message centre) with which
they're lodged. So sending an SMS from a Vodafone SIM to a
Telstra device means that the SMS is lodged with a Vodafone
SMSC, and the Vodafone SMSC delivers it to the Telstra phone
(using the Telstra network infrastructure to "talk" to the
receiving phone, of course).

If a delivery receipt was requested in this example, it's the
Vodafone SMSC which sends it back to the original SMS sender
when the Vodafone SMSC successfully passes that SMS to the
receiving phone.

John

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DaN - 30 Oct 2006 13:41 GMT

I havent use delivery reports for a long time (just to annoying)
but they only confirm that the message reached its destination no way of
telling if it was opened.

> http://www.quiz2win.net/quiz2win/au/explanation.html
>
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>
> Is this bullshit? They can't tell when I open an SMS on you mobile.

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Simon Templar - 30 Oct 2006 14:07 GMT

> I havent use delivery reports for a long time (just to annoying)
> but they only confirm that the message reached its destination no way of
> telling if it was opened.

In earlier handsets this feature was poorly implemented. However in the
Nokia 6680 and N73 I have used in recent times it is set up in such a
way that makes it comfortable to use.

Basically when the report is received there is a pop-up screen for a
couple of seconds and a very quiet beep. The reports are also kept in a
list for review.

--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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Josh B - 26 Nov 2006 00:11 GMT

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:12:15 +1100, RdrrRdrrr (or one of their many
personalities) said......

> http://www.quiz2win.net/quiz2win/au/explanation.html
>
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>
> Is this bullshit? They can't tell when I open an SMS on you mobile.

They could tell when you opened it if it's a WAP push picture message?

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