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James Bell - 08 Nov 2006 09:23 GMT 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country.
Are you a patriot? Do you love Australia? Do you want our country to prosper in the future! Then get behind the best news you've had all year and get some Telstra shares.
You could be buying your kids a future.
Two Bob - 06 Nov 2006 22:54 GMT 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country.
Why support a company that wont support its own country?
> Are you a patriot? Do you love Australia? Do you want our country to > prosper in the future! Then get behind the best news you've had all year > and get some Telstra shares. How??
> You could be buying your kids a future. Years ago, we could send our kids for an apprenticeship with them. Now they have turned their backs on them.
Help support Australia by NOT buying something that already belongs to us.
James Bell - 08 Nov 2006 11:05 GMT >1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > > Why support a company that wont support its own country? So you are saying that Optusarse and Yodafone are going to support this country? Are you an idiot?
> Years ago, we could send our kids for an apprenticeship with them. Now > they have turned their backs on them. > > Help support Australia by NOT buying something that already belongs to us. Yes that's right.. let foreign interests steal something that belongs to us, just to teach the government a lesson. That, my dear clown, is the essence of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Justin - 08 Nov 2006 11:09 GMT | > Help support Australia by NOT buying something that already belongs to us. | > | Yes that's right.. let foreign interests steal something that belongs to us, | just to teach the government a lesson. That, my dear clown, is the essence | of cutting off your nose to spite your face. And that is why you are still posting from an Optus dialup point, Troll, and a very poor one at that!
James Bell - 08 Nov 2006 11:22 GMT > And that is why you are still posting from an Optus dialup point, Troll, > and a very poor one at that! No, as I said before, I am forced to use Optus. However, that just enables me to appreciate Telstra all the more.
Why do you think all the clever countries support their Telco, while the stupid ones don't? Look at Singapore, they're going to end up owning this country, simply because they realise that a few cents saved on a bill from a foreign carrier, is bad for the country long term?
However most of you people are too stupid to see this..
Anthony Horan - 08 Nov 2006 13:15 GMT > Why do you think all the clever countries support their Telco, while the > stupid ones don't? Look at Singapore, they're going to end up owning this > country, simply because they realise that a few cents saved on a bill from a > foreign carrier, is bad for the country long term? Sorry, but if Telstra can't compete on price - and they can't and/or won't - then tough sh.t for them. They could go under tomorrow and I'd be the first to throw a party.
Michael - 12 Nov 2006 10:48 GMT >> Why do you think all the clever countries support their Telco, while the >> stupid ones don't? Look at Singapore, they're going to end up owning this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sorry, but if Telstra can't compete on price - and they can't and/or won't They dont need to compeete on price
> - then tough sh.t for them. They could go under tomorrow and I'd be the > first to throw a party. And that is about as likely as you living to be 1000
Jonathan Wilson - 08 Nov 2006 14:16 GMT > Why do you think all the clever countries support their Telco, while the > stupid ones don't? Look at Singapore, they're going to end up owning this > country, simply because they realise that a few cents saved on a bill from a > foreign carrier, is bad for the country long term? I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. What I care about is getting phonecalls (fixed line and mobile) and Broadband Internet at a reasonable price without restrictions. (for example, I will use ISPs that throttle traffic based on the amount of bandwidth I have used but I refuse to use ISPs that throttle traffic based on network protocols/ports (BitTorrent etc) or source/destination addresses)
If the ISP or telco that gives me what I want is owned by a foreign company, so be it. (as it happens, I am with Telstra for home phone, Telstra Prepaid for mobile and TPG Internet for broadband)
James Bell - 09 Nov 2006 09:23 GMT > I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. What a sad person you are. One day you will wake up, and the only support available will be from Chennai. Then you may realise the error of your ways.
> What I care about is getting phonecalls (fixed line and mobile) and > Broadband Internet at a reasonable price without restrictions. (for > example, I will use ISPs that throttle traffic based on the amount of > bandwidth I have used but I refuse to use ISPs that throttle traffic based > on network protocols/ports (BitTorrent etc) or source/destination > addresses) What has that got to do with supporting your country? Grow up.
Anthony Horan - 09 Nov 2006 12:07 GMT >> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. > > What a sad person you are. One day you will wake up, and the only support > available will be from Chennai. Then you may realise the error of your ways. If you're so deluded that you don't think that Telstra will eventually outsource their customer support to India, you're even sadder than I thought.
Michael - 12 Nov 2006 10:48 GMT >>> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > outsource their customer support to India, you're even sadder than I > thought. You are right
Wait till its all sold off.
Then customer service will move to the place with the lowest cost base
thegoons - 15 Nov 2006 13:18 GMT >>>> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Then customer service will move to the place with the lowest cost base Australia, under Howard's "Work Choices"
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Michael - 16 Nov 2006 07:31 GMT >>>>> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > Australia, under Howard's "Work Choices" Interesting point!!!
Do you want Australians working in Aus for AU$5 per hour, or Indians working in India for the equivalent of AU$5???
Rod Speed - 16 Nov 2006 08:46 GMT > thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote >>> Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> wrote >>>>> Jonathan Wilson <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use.
>>>>> What a sad person you are. One day you will wake up, and the only support >>>>> available will be from Chennai. Then you may realise the error of your ways.
>>>> If you're so deluded that you don't think that Telstra will eventually outsource their customer >>>> support to India, you're even sadder than I thought.
>>> You are right
>>> Wait till its all sold off.
>>> Then customer service will move to the place with the lowest cost base
>> Australia, under Howard's "Work Choices"
> Interesting point!!! Nope, that fool has never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever.
> Do you want Australians working in Aus for AU$5 per hour, or Indians working in India for the > equivalent of AU$5??? I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour.
Simon Templar - 16 Nov 2006 13:11 GMT 16-Nov-2006 19:55:32 Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 4s2ms1Ftth58U1@mid.individual.net
> > Do you want Australians working in Aus for AU$5 per hour, or Indians working in India for the > > equivalent of AU$5??? > > I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour. As long as they can speak English! :P
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Rod Speed - 16 Nov 2006 20:47 GMT > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Do you want Australians working in Aus for AU$5 per hour, >>> or Indians working in India for the equivalent of AU$5???
>> I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour.
> As long as they can speak English! :P They clearly arent competant if they cant.
Michael - 18 Nov 2006 05:08 GMT > 16-Nov-2006 19:55:32 > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour. > As long as they can speak English! :P They all speak English, in fact sometimes better than we do
Its the accent thats the problem
Rod Speed - 18 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT >> 16-Nov-2006 19:55:32 >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Its the accent thats the problem Often its less of a problem than the apes we employ locally.
Michael - 22 Nov 2006 11:48 GMT >>> 16-Nov-2006 19:55:32 >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Often its less of a problem than the apes we employ locally. Sometimes. Generally more of a problem
Rod Speed - 22 Nov 2006 19:03 GMT >>>> 16-Nov-2006 19:55:32 >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sometimes. Generally more of a problem Nope.
Michael - 18 Nov 2006 05:08 GMT >> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote >>>> Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour. From my experience, you will never get that.
Experience from a customer service and IT perspective
Rod Speed - 18 Nov 2006 22:06 GMT > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote >>>>> Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> Jonathan Wilson <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>> I don't care who owns the telcos and ISPs that I use.
>>>>>>> What a sad person you are. One day you will wake up, and the only support >>>>>>> available will be from Chennai. Then you may realise the error of your ways.
>>>>>> If you're so deluded that you don't think that Telstra will >>>>>> eventually outsource their customer support to India, you're >>>>>> even sadder than I thought.
>>>>> You are right
>>>>> Wait till its all sold off.
>>>>> Then customer service will move to the place with the lowest cost base
>>>> Australia, under Howard's "Work Choices"
>>> Interesting point!!!
>> Nope, that fool has never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>> Do you want Australians working in Aus for AU$5 per hour, or Indians working in India for the >>> equivalent of AU$5???
>> I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour.
> From my experience, you will never get that. You have no 'experience' worth a damn.
> Experience from a customer service and IT perspective You're just plain wrong on that. I've had a hell of a lot better result from some curry munchers getting paid that than I have from locals getting paid a hell of a lot more. Their english was fine too, unlike some of the locals who appear to be recent immigrants.
Michael - 22 Nov 2006 11:48 GMT >> I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > getting paid a hell of a lot more. Their english was fine too, unlike > some of the locals who appear to be recent immigrants. The English is usually great, its just the accent, once you get used to it
Rod Speed - 22 Nov 2006 18:46 GMT >>> I'd rather have competant curry munchers for $1 hour.
>>> From my experience, you will never get that.
>> You have no 'experience' worth a damn.
>>> Experience from a customer service and IT perspective
>> You're just plain wrong on that. I've had a hell of a lot better result from some curry munchers >> getting paid that than I have from >> locals getting paid a hell of a lot more. Their english was fine >> too, unlike some of the locals who appear to be recent immigrants.
> The English is usually great, its just the accent, once you get used to it With plenty of them even the accent is better than our recent immigrants.
Nole Boaday - 12 Nov 2006 08:14 GMT > No, as I said before, I am forced to use Optus. No you arn't.
Two Bob - 09 Nov 2006 05:46 GMT >>1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. >> >> Why support a company that wont support its own country? > > So you are saying that Optusarse and Yodafone are going to support this > country? Are you an idiot? I didn't say any such thing. You're the one eyed idiot.
>> Years ago, we could send our kids for an apprenticeship with them. Now >> they have turned their backs on them. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > us, just to teach the government a lesson. That, my dear clown, is the > essence of cutting off your nose to spite your face. So, the foreign interests are going to steal telstra? Interesting, I thought it was for sale.
If telstra didn't have the monopoly on the infrastructure, it would have gone down the gurgler years ago. They are not interested in the Australian public one tiny bit, if they were they would give good (or even mediocre) service without ripping people off. Let Singapore have it! I'd rather have one foreign telco that was good than a hundred Aussie telcos that are in it only to line their own pockets, and the pockets of their imported management.
atec77 - 08 Nov 2006 09:41 GMT > 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You could be buying your kids a future. HaHaHa has to be a troll.
James Bell - 08 Nov 2006 10:48 GMT >> 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > HaHaHa > has to be a troll. Actually, no.. from http://www.infochoice.com.au/Banking/news/06/11/article15870.asp
Late Rush for T3: Late applications for investment in the T3 Telstra share offer appear to suggest the government will sell $10 billion worth of stock rather than the target of $8 billion. Applications close on Thursday, November 9.
atec77 - 08 Nov 2006 11:56 GMT > "atec77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message So your a troll and a piss poor one at that.
Anthony Horan - 08 Nov 2006 13:13 GMT > Are you a patriot? Do you love Australia? Do you want our country to prosper > in the future! Then get behind the best news you've had all year and get > some Telstra shares. ...And enjoy the Great Australian Sport of losing money thanks to an incompetent and arrogant company that nobody with half a brain would go near with a ten foot pole.
> You could be buying your kids a future. Anyone who willingly has kids in this day and age needs their head read. So I guess there's some correlation between the two.
Simon Templar - 08 Nov 2006 15:23 GMT >1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You could be buying your kids a future. Good we want have to put up with those shitty ads on every radio, TV station and newspapers.
They were really starting to piss me right off!!!!
Hopefully James *TROLL* Bell will disappear too.
kcoj - 10 Nov 2006 09:10 GMT > 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You could be buying your kids a future. feck! i missed out oh dear never mind what a shame! not!
James Bell - 10 Nov 2006 11:34 GMT > feck! > i missed out Yes.. the response has been bumper. The government originally estimated A$8B received, now this has bumped to A$11B
A great result for the future of this country.
It's a shame you missed out on fantastic returns (guaranteed 14% return for the first 18 months at least)
Rod Speed - 10 Nov 2006 18:30 GMT > kcoj <poguemahone@shithappens.com> wrote
>> feck! >> i missed out
> Yes.. the response has been bumper. The government originally > estimated A$8B received, now this has bumped to A$11B
> A great result for the future of this country.
> It's a shame you missed out on fantastic returns (guaranteed 14% return for the first 18 months at > least) Fat lot of use that will be if the price sags by more than that.
Gunna be hilarious if NextG flys like the proverbial lead balloon, the govt refuses to allow telstra to turn off the CDMA system in the runup to the next election to pander to the Nats, and everyone notices that telstra has just shot itself in the foot very spectacularly indeed, yet again, and the share price plummets.
thegoons - 15 Nov 2006 13:22 GMT >> kcoj <poguemahone@shithappens.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > everyone notices that telstra has just shot itself in the foot very > spectacularly indeed, yet again, and the share price plummets. It won't happen. Howard, via Mark Vaile, will order Barnaby "roll-over" Joyce back in his box. Wait and see.
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Rod Speed - 15 Nov 2006 19:18 GMT > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> kcoj <poguemahone@shithappens.com> wrote
>>>> feck! >>>> i missed out
>>> Yes.. the response has been bumper. The government originally >>> estimated A$8B received, now this has bumped to A$11B
>>> A great result for the future of this country.
>>> It's a shame you missed out on fantastic returns (guaranteed 14% return for the first 18 months >>> at least)
>> Fat lot of use that will be if the price sags by more than that.
>> Gunna be hilarious if NextG flys like the proverbial lead balloon, >> the govt refuses to allow telstra to turn off the CDMA system >> in the runup to the next election to pander to the Nats, and >> everyone notices that telstra has just shot itself in the foot very >> spectacularly indeed, yet again, and the share price plummets.
> It won't happen. Howard, via Mark Vaile, will order Barnaby "roll-over" Joyce back in his box. > Wait and see. We'll see. Sillier things have happened in the runup to elections on mobile coverage, stupid.
Nole Boaday - 12 Nov 2006 08:06 GMT > 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You could be buying your kids a future. Telstra's about as Australian as the Mexican Amigos.
Nole Boaday - 12 Nov 2006 08:25 GMT > 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. Telstra doesn't support sh.t.
> Are you a patriot? Do you love Australia? Do you want our country to prosper > in the future! Then get behind the best news you've had all year and get > some Telstra shares. Are you a fuckhead? Do you like posting trolls? Yes!
> You could be buying your kids a future. You won't be.
Magilla - 12 Nov 2006 08:58 GMT >> 1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support >> this great country.
> Telstra doesn't support sh.t. LOL.
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Michael - 12 Nov 2006 10:48 GMT >1 day left to obtain your Telstra shares and support this great country. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You could be buying your kids a future. w.nker
James Bell - 13 Nov 2006 10:57 GMT >> You could be buying your kids a future. > > w.nker For telling the truth.. You are a sad, deluded fool. See you in Mumbai, where your kids where will be cleaning the house for Mr and Mrs Singh.
thegoons - 15 Nov 2006 13:23 GMT >>> You could be buying your kids a future. >> >> w.nker > > For telling the truth.. You are a sad, deluded fool. See you in Mumbai, > where your kids where will be cleaning the house for Mr and Mrs Singh. I wipe my arse on the Indian flag.
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James Bell - 16 Nov 2006 09:23 GMT > I wipe my arse on the Indian flag. Yet you continue to support companies, like 3 mobile, that send work to India. Do you not see the logical conclusion of your action?
You must really be stupid.
Simon Templar - 16 Nov 2006 13:13 GMT 16-Nov-2006 20:32:52 James Bell <bellj@telstra.com> wrote in message <455c2dfa$0$11970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
> > I wipe my arse on the Indian flag. > > Yet you continue to support companies, like 3 mobile, that send work to > India. Do you not see the logical conclusion of your action? > > You must really be stupid. What's the difference? The 3 Amigo's are taking all the money out of Tel$tra back to the US with them, they will jump ship just before Tel$tra goes under!
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Michael - 18 Nov 2006 05:08 GMT > 16-Nov-2006 20:32:52 > James Bell <bellj@telstra.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Tel$tra back to the US with them, they will jump ship just before > Tel$tra goes under! How is Telstra's money going back to the US?
James Bell - 18 Nov 2006 23:43 GMT > How is Telstra's money going back to the US? Shh! Don't baffle him with logical reasoning! He is a disgruntled ex-employee whom Telstra 'made an example of, just like his last 5 employers'..
Simon Templar - 19 Nov 2006 10:32 GMT 19-Nov-2006 20:01:11 Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message <SDw7h.67960$rP1.39094@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
> > 16-Nov-2006 20:32:52 > > James Bell <bellj@telstra.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > How is Telstra's money going back to the US? Are you STUPID? I will spell it out for you:
The Three Amigo's are all US Citizen's employed by Telstra to run the company. They are being paid millions of dollars straight into their US bank accounts.
Furthermore they are gutting Telstra and destroying it systamtically with their management. They will jump ship at the last moment with a HUGE payout just before Telstra is f.cked up beyond repair.
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Rod Speed - 19 Nov 2006 22:02 GMT > Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote >>> James Bell <bellj@telstra.com> wrote in message >>> <455c2dfa$0$11970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
>>>>> I wipe my arse on the Indian flag.
>>>> Yet you continue to support companies, like 3 mobile, that send >>>> work to India. Do you not see the logical conclusion of your action?
>>>> You must really be stupid.
>>> What's the difference? The 3 Amigo's are taking all the money out >>> of Tel$tra back to the US with them, they will jump ship just before >>> Tel$tra goes under!
>> How is Telstra's money going back to the US?
> Are you STUPID? No need to as that question with you, the answer is so obvious.
> I will spell it out for you: Pity you couldnt even manage that.
> The Three Amigo's are all US Citizen's You did manage to get that bit right.
> employed by Telstra to run the company. They might just employ a few more than just those three to do that.
> They are being paid millions of dollars You did manage to get that bit right.
> straight into their US bank accounts. Thats unlikely.
And even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that that is VERY unlikely to be ALL Telstra's money as you so stupidly claimed.
> Furthermore they are gutting Telstra Another pig ignorant lie.
> and destroying it systamtically with their management. Another pig ignorant lie.
> They will jump ship at the last moment with a HUGE > payout just before Telstra is f.cked up beyond repair. Not even possible.
Michael - 22 Nov 2006 11:48 GMT > 19-Nov-2006 20:01:11 > Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > company. They are being paid millions of dollars straight into their > US bank accounts. What does that matter?
> Furthermore they are gutting Telstra and destroying it systamtically > with their management. They will jump ship at the last moment with a > HUGE payout just before Telstra is f.cked up beyond repair. We will see.
Transformation will either be a success or a failure, I think
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