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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / June 2007Pagers - where to purchase
I am looking to purchase a pager - preferably an Apollo 924, Apollo A25 or an ATI Corporate. Has to be in the low VHF range and compatible with POCSAG (not FLEX). There are a couple on eBay in the US, but does anybody know any retailers in Australia that sell them: a) without having to sign up to a contract, and b) unlocked. The screen on my current pager has seen better days, but the provider I'm with wants over $200 for a new unit - considering I can get one for half that on eBay and program it myself it doesn't seem worth it. Any help appreciated, Matt > I am looking to purchase a pager - preferably an Apollo 924, Apollo A25 or > an ATI Corporate. Has to be in the low VHF range and compatible with POCSAG > (not FLEX). Have a look at <http://www.unicompl.com/>, I have purchased from Eric at Unicom in the past and he is great to deal with.  SignatureThe views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452> >> I am looking to purchase a pager - preferably an Apollo 924, Apollo A25 >> or an ATI Corporate. Has to be in the low VHF range and compatible with >> POCSAG (not FLEX). > > Have a look at <http://www.unicompl.com/>, I have purchased from Eric at > Unicom in the past and he is great to deal with. Thanks, I might give him a call. I only see his company branded pagers - before I contact him, do you know if he stocks other brands? Cheers, Matt > I am looking to purchase a pager - preferably an Apollo 924, Apollo A25 or > an ATI Corporate. Has to be in the low VHF range and compatible with POCSAG > (not FLEX). OT, but why would anyone use a pager instead of SMS these days? PD SignaturePaul Day > OT, but why would anyone use a pager instead of SMS these days? > > PD The primary reason is time sensitive messages. The phone carriers are too tight arsed to set up SMS properly to ensure messages are sent quickly and effectively. Bloody foolish in my opinion with several Emergency Services in Victoria recently having set up a state wide paging network for themselves. If European Emergency Services can make use of Priority SMS, we should be able to here as well. SignatureThe views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452> > The primary reason is time sensitive messages. The phone carriers are > too tight arsed to set up SMS properly to ensure messages are sent > quickly and effectively. Indeed. Are there any commercial paging networks still active or are there only private, job-specific networks around? > Bloody foolish in my opinion with several Emergency Services in > Victoria recently having set up a state wide paging network for > themselves. If European Emergency Services can make use of Priority > SMS, we should be able to here as well. Can a GSM network provide an SLA on a priority SMS during _serious_ network congestion? eg, London Bombings grinding networks to a halt. I was in Bristol that day and couldn't use my phone all day on any network. PD SignaturePaul Day > Can a GSM network provide an SLA on a priority SMS during > _serious_ network congestion? eg, London Bombings grinding > networks to a halt. I was in Bristol that day and couldn't use > my phone all day on any network. They might have been using the "access control class" facility to keep the network relatively clear for emergency traffic. There are 15 access control classes, with each SIM being allocated to one of these. 10 apply to ordinary users, and every ordinary SIM is randomly assigned to one of these. One or more classes can be denied access to the network at any time. In a severe network overload situation, a few classes at a time on a rotational basis can be denied access so that others can carry on reasonably normally for a time. In an emergency, all 10 "normal" classes might be denied access so that the 5 "high priority" classes of user can have the network to themselves. Refer GSM 02.11, GSM 11.11, 3GPP 22.011 and 3GPP 31.102. John >> The primary reason is time sensitive messages. The phone carriers are >> too tight arsed to set up SMS properly to ensure messages are sent >> quickly and effectively. . . . >Can a GSM network provide an SLA on a priority SMS during _serious_ >network congestion? eg, London Bombings grinding networks to a halt. I >was in Bristol that day and couldn't use my phone all day on any >network. The authorities turned off network access, that's why. The bad guys use phones for doing bad things. Seem pretty standard procedure from what is in the press. >> OT, but why would anyone use a pager instead of SMS these days? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > tight arsed to set up SMS properly to ensure messages are sent quickly and > effectively. Mine work fine. Have for years and years > Mine work fine. Have for years and years That may well be the case, but there are many instances of delays that Emergency Services cannot risk. That's unfortunately why they refuse to make use of SMS for primary call outs. SignatureThe views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452> >> Mine work fine. Have for years and years > > That may well be the case, but there are many instances of delays that > Emergency Services cannot risk. That's unfortunately why they refuse to > make use of SMS for primary call outs. More fool them >> I am looking to purchase a pager - preferably an Apollo 924, Apollo A25 >> or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > OT, but why would anyone use a pager instead of SMS these days? I get that all the time :) The nature of my work requires me to be 'on-call' 24/7. While SMS works great, it means I have to keep my phone switched on and audible at all times (or have two phones). Utilising a pager means I switch my phone off at night or when I'm unavailable and all calls get diverted a message service. Non-urgent callers leave a voice message which I retrieve later, urgent callers get diverted to the pager which alerts me. The diversion and yearly paging costs are equivalent to peanuts - and it means I get a good nights sleep. The only downside, as I have just found, it when I need a new pager! Cheers, Matt > "Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message > > OT, but why would anyone use a pager instead of SMS these days? > > I get that all the time :) No doubt. :) But I assumed there was some distinct advantages! > Utilising a pager means I switch my phone off at night or when I'm > unavailable and all calls get diverted a message service. Non-urgent > callers leave a voice message which I retrieve later, urgent callers > get diverted to the pager which alerts me. The diversion and yearly > paging costs are equivalent to peanuts - and it means I get a good > nights sleep. Fair enough. So there are obviously still commercial paging networks active in .au. PD SignaturePaul Day > The nature of my work requires me to be 'on-call' 24/7. While SMS works > great, it means I have to keep my phone switched on and audible at all > times (or have two phones). When I was oncall 24/7, SMS was good enough for me >> The nature of my work requires me to be 'on-call' 24/7. While >> SMS works great, it means I have to keep my phone switched on >> and audible at all times (or have two phones). > > When I was oncall 24/7, SMS was good enough for me It wasn't for me. Did you need to potentially answer to the Coroner if you couldn't be contacted? John |
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