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It's a farce - ADSL-enabled Bega Exchange gets Coonan letter

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Alan Parkington - 19 Sep 2007 09:29 GMT
Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians

Last week,  the Federal Minister for Communications,  Senator Helen Coonan,
sent a letter to at least 500,000 households around the country telling
people they could not get access to broadband.

We want to set the record straight.

In her letter,  the Minister says residents have "not received a commercial
upgrade to enable access to ADSL or wireless broadband".   But what are the
facts?

Fact:  Many recipients of the letter report to us they are already using or
have access to ADSL broadband or wireless broadband via Telstra's Next G
network,  meaning that for many the letter is blatantly untrue.

Fact:   Some consumers have access to ADSL from exchanges that were upgraded
with taxpayers'  money - something the Minister should already have known.

This reckless attempt by the Government to mask Telstra's existing broadband
service offerings and undermine its investments in regional Australia is a
departure from the truth that cannot go unanswered.

We have called on the Minister to take actions to correct this
misinformation that has been widely distributed at taxpayer expense.

Telstra's commitment to improving telecommunications for all Australians is
unmatched.

Example:  The $1.1 billion invested by Telstra shareholders to build the
Next G network - the world's largest and most advanced national wireless
broadband network,  with speeds not exceeded by any other national wireless
broadband network anywhere in the world.

The Next G network reaches to 98.8% of the people of Australia,  so if you
don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND (137663)
to discuss your options.
Will Kemp - 19 Sep 2007 11:08 GMT
Ha ha! That moron Trujillo shouldn't have picked a fight with her, should
he!

Squirm ya bastards!

> Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> you don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND
> (137663) to discuss your options.
Darryl Attwood - 19 Sep 2007 11:32 GMT
Sorry for top posting, but I dont want anyone to read Alan's drivel. How do
you create a killfile on outlook express? Telstra propeganda is too much to
take.

Darryl

> Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND
> (137663) to discuss your options.
Will Kemp - 19 Sep 2007 12:17 GMT
> Sorry for top posting, but I dont want anyone to read Alan's drivel. How
> do you create a killfile on outlook express? Telstra propeganda is too
> much to take.

I agree! Fortunately, though, Rod Speed is pretty reliable in pulling
them to pieces. His responses are much more interesting that Parkinson's
original dribble - which i rarely read.

You don't need a killfile though. Just don't read any articles from Alan
Parkinson - it's not hard!

> Darryl
>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>> you don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND
>> (137663) to discuss your options.
Marts - 20 Sep 2007 22:25 GMT
Will Kemp wrote...

> them to pieces. His responses are much more interesting that Parkinson's
> original dribble - which i rarely read.

There's nothing original about "Parkington's" posts. He has nothing of his own
to say on the issues. If he did he wouldn't be infringing the various media's
copyright provisions and copy/pasting their articles in here for us to ignore.


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Michael - 21 Sep 2007 09:53 GMT
> Sorry for top posting, but I dont want anyone to read Alan's drivel. How
> do you create a killfile on outlook express? Telstra propeganda is too
> much to take.

Just give him the CTRL-T

> Darryl
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>> you don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND
>> (137663) to discuss your options.
rebel - 19 Sep 2007 13:37 GMT
>Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>have access to ADSL broadband or wireless broadband via Telstra's Next G
>network,  meaning that for many the letter is blatantly untrue.

Many?  Just HOW many out of the 500,000?  Last we heard from the Telstra
bleaters, it was THREE exchanges.  So how many subs?
Rod Speed - 19 Sep 2007 21:42 GMT
You're a farce.

> Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians

> Last week,  the Federal Minister for Communications,  Senator Helen Coonan, sent a letter to at least 500,000
> households around the country telling people they could not get access to broadband.

So its hardly surprising if a few got it in error, fuckwits.

> We want to set the record straight.

You actually want to lie, just like you always do.

> In her letter,  the Minister says residents have "not received a commercial upgrade to enable access to ADSL or
> wireless broadband".  But what are the facts?

You wouldnt know what a fact was if it bit you on your lard arse.

> Fact:  Many recipients of the letter report to us

Bet f.ck all have done anything of the sort.

> they are already using or have access to ADSL broadband or  wireless broadband via Telstra's Next G network,

At outrageous fees, fuckwit.

> meaning that for many the letter is blatantly untrue.

f.ck all in fact.

> Fact:   Some consumers have access to ADSL from exchanges that were upgraded with taxpayers'  money

Another lie, it wasnt taxpayer's money, it was telstra CUSTOMER's money.

> - something the Minister should already have known.

> This reckless attempt by the Government to mask Telstra's existing
> broadband service offerings and undermine its investments in regional
> Australia is a departure from the truth that cannot go unanswered.

That what happens when you lose a stoush you cant possibley win with the govt, fuckwits.

> We have called on the Minister to take actions to correct this
> misinformation that has been widely distributed at taxpayer expense.

We call on you to go and f.ck yourselves, again. And f.ck off back where you came from too.

> Telstra's commitment to improving telecommunications for all Australians is unmatched.

Thats a bare faced lie, most obviously with those that
telstra doesnt bother to supply an adsl service to.

> Example:  The $1.1 billion invested by Telstra shareholders to build
> the Next G network - the world's largest and most advanced national
> wireless broadband network,  with speeds not exceeded by any other
> national wireless broadband network anywhere in the world.

Pity about the cost of using that for net access, fuckwits.

> The Next G network reaches to 98.8% of the people of Australia,

Pity about the cost of using that for net access, fuckwits.

> so if you don't have broadband and if you want it,  contact Telstra on 13POND (137663) to discuss your options.

Go and f.ck yourselves, again.
GlennP - 20 Sep 2007 10:21 GMT
> Open letter from Telstra Country Wide to country Australians

Yeah, That crap was in Tuesdays paper in Newcastle & had a response in
the letters to the editor section in Wednesdays paper.

Here's what was written.

Heading: Telstra's PR not my experience.

I read with interest the full page advertisement from Telstra (Herald 18/9).
I believe Telstra's claims are smoke & mirrors.
I live in Ashtonfield (suburb of Maitland, within sight of the TAFE, yet
I can't get ADSL & have been forced by Telstra to rely on their very
expensive wireless service - $54 a month for 200MB on wireless, compared
with $29.95 a month on ADSL.
Sure I can get broadband, but it'll cost me $30 a month more.
Telstra says there are no plans to upgrade the lines.
My thoughts are they'd rather force you to use their expensive wireless
option than upgrade lines.
Come on Telstra, spend less money on all the ads & the rubbish in our
mailboxes & just upgrade the lines.
John Baillie.

I couldn't have said it any better myself, if they spent half the money
they spend on advertising actually working on & upgrading the network,
it might actually be something & they wouldn't have to keep telling us
all the time just how good it is.

Telstra have you believe that the Next G network is the worlds fastest,
(correct me if I'm wrong here) but AFAIK the Optus 3G network is as fast
if not faster, so there's no real advantage to "Next G", coverage yes at
the moment, Optus 3G's expanding fast.
This from both companies web sites: Telstra - our Next G™ Network can
access faster data download speeds with a peak network downlink speed of
3.6Mbps.

The Next G™ network provides average download speeds of 550kbps to
1.5Mbps and upload speeds bursting to 384kbps. Planned improvements
during 2007 are expected to further improve the capability of the Next
G™ network.

Optus - Optus customers will experience download speeds averaging
500Kbps to 1.5Mbps and network capability of up to 3.6Mbps initially
with the potential to rise up to 14.4Mbps.

Same speeds but Optus is cheaper/more Data.

Cheers
Glenn
 
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