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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / October 2007Telstra Crap
On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any Federal money for broadband expansions. http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/Home/PageBlogComments.aspx?mid=96&pid=648  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap > and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have > missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why > Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any > Federal money for broadband expansions. generally, it is crap. its an immature product. go look at whirlfool forums, posts like - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . . - i cant dial certain 13 numbers - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end mindless levels of complications and faults Then, you have a hard wired phone it rings, you pick it up, you talk when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call > thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote >> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap and consumers whould avoid it like the >> plague. Sorry Telstra, >> you have missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. >> No wonder why Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any Federal money for broadband >> expansions. > generally, it is crap. Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue. > its an immature product. Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing. > go look at whirlfool forums, posts like > - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . . > - i cant dial certain 13 numbers > - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end You get that with the POTS service too, fuckwit. > mindless levels of complications and faults Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue. > Then, you have a hard wired phone > it rings, you pick it up, you talk Not always. > when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call Not always. So it works well eh.. so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am? > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote > So it works well eh.. Yep. > so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am? There might just be a tad more to a phone service than just that, fuckwit. > Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote >> So it works well eh.. > Yep. >> so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am? > There might just be a tad more to a phone service than just that, fuckwit. And those of us with an adsl service can still make the 000 call on the POTS service, fuckwit. : > thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote : [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] : : Not always. Telstra misguided propaganda. I have to agree with Rod. I've had Engin on cable for a long time, and no landline. It works so well, no one knows the difference. I get a locally assigned number for people to call me on, I pick up my standard cordless phone which has the base unit plugged into the wall as per normal, but leading to my Engin box. If I want to call emergency, they know where I am because of my local assigned number that Engin gave me. If the power or cable goes down, well, shock, horror, it diverts to my voicemail. And if I need to call out while it's down (which has never happened while I was home), I guess I'd use my mobile. Visitors who use my phone don't even realise it is VOIP unless I tell them afterwards, and most don't belive it until they see the Engin unit, tucked up on a shelf in the walk in robe, alongside the router and modem. And even then some think its a trick, until I flick the Engin box power off and tell them to try to call out on the cordless in thier hand. VOIP is not a problem for me and many others. Adrian. >> its an immature product. > > Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing. And clearly many of them dont know what they are doing. Reminds me of the days of callback services, 5-10 years ago >> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like >> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You get that with the POTS service too, fuckwit. Hardly. >> mindless levels of complications and faults > > Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue. Even a fool can make and receive a call on a POTS service, Roddles. VOIP should just work, in the same fashion. Indeed now you can attach hardwire-like phones that just work like a normal phone (or should) >> Then, you have a hard wired phone > >> it rings, you pick it up, you talk > > Not always. 99.99999% of the time >> when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call > > Not always. as above > >> Then, you have a hard wired phone > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 99.99999% of the time You reckon Telstra maintain an average SLA of _3 seconds per year_ downtime across their PSTN network? My lack of a dial-tone at multiple properties over the years begs to differ. PD SignaturePaul Day >> >> Then, you have a hard wired phone >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > downtime across their PSTN network? My lack of a dial-tone at multiple > properties over the years begs to differ. I agree, perhaps you were too literal. > PD >>> its an immature product. >> Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing. > And clearly many of them dont know what they are doing. So you use the ones that do, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > Reminds me of the days of callback services, 5-10 years ago More fool you, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like >>> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx >>> instead of just 9xxx . . . >>> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers >>> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end >> You get that with the POTS service too, fuckwit. > Hardly. Corse you do, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>> mindless levels of complications and faults >> Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue. > Even a fool can make and receive a call on a POTS service So can any fool with a preconfigured voip system, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > VOIP should just work, in the same fashion. It does with a preconfigured system. > Indeed now you can attach hardwire-like phones that just work like a normal phone (or should) So what the f.ck are you whining about, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child ? >>>> its an immature product. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > It does with a preconfigured system. Too bad about the shite at the other end of the line that f.cks up. >>>>> its an immature product. >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Too bad about the shite at the other end of the line that f.cks up. Happens with POTS too, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call tell that to the Baulding kid's family SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >> crap and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > generally, it is crap. its an immature product. It's nowhere near as immature as that oaf Trujillo! But, in fact, it's not at all immature. VOIP (as opposed to internet telephony) is widely used in many large corporations and works faultlessly. > go look at whirlfool forums, posts like - i cant get through to a local > number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . . > - i cant dial certain 13 numbers > - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end Pretty much the same sort of thing as what you'll find in the broadband forums - would you describe *that* as an immature technology? All sorts of people have difficulties with all forms of technology. That's just the way it is. What about cars? There's plenty of people who similar sorts of faults with their cars - i suppose you'd describe motor cars as an "immature technology", would you? > mindless levels of complications and faults Rather like Tel$cum in general then, ey? > Then, you have a hard wired phone > > it rings, you pick it up, you talk > > when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call There's plenty of times when ADSL works on someone's line, but the phone doesn't - in those cases, internet telephony (which clowns like you will insist on referring to as "VOIP") is more reliable than POTS. >>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >>> crap and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > telephony) is widely used in many large corporations and works > faultlessly. With vast numbers of people supporting it. Joe Blow hasnt got a chance >> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like - i cant get through to a local >> number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . . [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of people have difficulties with all forms of technology. That's just the > way it is. Yet no one seems to have trouble with the POTS network >> Then, you have a hard wired phone >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > doesn't - in those cases, internet telephony (which clowns like you will > insist on referring to as "VOIP") is more reliable than POTS. Hardly ever occurs. >>>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >>>> crap and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Yet no one seems to have trouble with the POTS network Tell that to the Baldings, their kid ended up dead, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>> Then, you have a hard wired phone >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> like you will insist on referring to as "VOIP") is more reliable >> than POTS. > Hardly ever occurs. Not a f.cking clue, as always. > > On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap > > and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > generally, it is crap. its an immature product. You must be getting quite the tan in that rock you've been living under there Michael... PD SignaturePaul Day >> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap >> and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > - i cant dial certain 13 numbers > - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end Never ever had any of those problems, fuckwit. Simply get a VoIP box pre-configured straight from your provider, you terminal fuckwit. >>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap >>> and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Never ever had any of those problems, fuckwit. Simply get a VoIP box > pre-configured straight from your provider, you terminal fuckwit. Sorry fuckwit, I dont use VOIP, its an immature technology. >>> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like >>> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Sorry fuckwit, I dont use VOIP, its an immature technology. No, you don't use it because you're incapable. That's part of being a Telstra sycophant, fuckwit. Pity about the fact the technology has been around well over 20 years, fuckwit. Pity about the fact it's replacing all circuit switched networks, fuckwit. Pity about the fact TLS MPLS network is essentially VoIP for voice (by nature), fuckwit. Pity about carrier grade VoIP products available. No pity in the fact you're a terminal backward fuckwit with clearly no idea on anything, ever. > On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap Well, that's not exactly what it's saying. It's saying Skype is crap - and skype *is* crap, for various reasons. They're trying to extend problems with skype to all forms of internet telephony by implication, of course. But that blog post doesn't really say anything much at all about internet telephony other than skype. Anyway, as one comment says: "Why isn't Telstra talking up products that deliver on the potential of the new tech, instead of attempting to turn people off?" Why indeed??? >> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >> crap [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Why indeed??? Because that would f.ck their revenue stream very comprehensively indeed. >>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >>> crap [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Because that would f.ck their revenue stream very comprehensively indeed. Of course. You cant expect them to cannabalise that. They cannabilise that, then broadband and mobiles prices will go up to get that revenue back Careful what you wish for, customers >>>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is >>>> crap [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Because that would f.ck their revenue stream very comprehensively indeed. > Of course. > You cant expect them to cannabalise that. They cannabilise that, then > broadband and mobiles prices will go up to get that revenue back Wrong, everyone would just use their competitors, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > Careful what you wish for, customers The demise of telstra, most of them. Those fuckwit yanks in spades. Telstra is hardly the first company ever to say bad things about technology that threatens to put it out of business. At least be glad we dont live in a country with a monopoly carrier who has the power to get the government to ban VoIP (as is the case in e.g. some South American countries) |
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