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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / October 2007Push Email in Australia
In Japan, every mobile telco and every handset (even the most cheapo handsets) enable the live reception of e-mail. The handset is not setup to poll every 5/10/30 minutes, the e-mail is received realtime.And you are not charged any extra to have this service, apart from a per-email transmission cost (no Next-G data volume charges). I recognise that apart from the latest 3G standard networks in Japan, the rest run on proprietary non-standard frequencies/protocols. However, in Australia, I am unaware of any such facility existing on GSM/3G/Next-G networks, apart from when using a Blackberry. You can sort of do it with '3' by setting a short poll time on your handset and using their POP server system. How about with Next-G, would you get charged exorbidantly for each poll? The Telstra website shows you how to login to Bigpond on Next-G handset, however this doesnt help in notifying when u have a new mail message. Any comments on ways around this?  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > In Japan, every mobile telco and every handset (even the most cheapo > handsets) enable the live reception of e-mail. The handset is not setup to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > However, in Australia, I am unaware of any such facility existing on > GSM/3G/Next-G networks, apart from when using a Blackberry. You can sort of That's why the IMAP standard was invented to replace the limited functionality POP standard a long time ago. If you have your own mail server or use another decent mail provider that offers IMAP access then as long as your session is kept active your mail client will be immediately notified. There's no need to use silly proprietary protocols offered by the likes of Blackberry and Microsoft Exchange (which are just proprietary modifications of the IMAP standard anyway) which lock you into their solution. If your mail server doesn't offer IMAP access than go elsewhere, and if you can't because you've locked yourself into a email address that has a domain that YOU don't control then you only have yourself to blame. > That's why the IMAP standard was invented to replace the limited > functionality POP standard a long time ago. If you have your own mail > server or use another decent mail provider that offers IMAP access then > as long as your session is kept active your mail client will be > immediately notified. And how much data is used in the keepalives to keep the IMAP session active? PD SignaturePaul Day > And how much data is used in the keepalives to keep the IMAP session > active? It would appear none. IMAP's IDLE capability is apparently heartbeat-less. PD SignaturePaul Day davmel wrote... > If your mail server doesn't offer IMAP access than go elsewhere, and if > you can't because you've locked yourself into a email address that has a > domain that YOU don't control then you only have yourself to blame. Gee, you make it sound like some sort of geek-crime not to have a domain that you can control. Presumably you do realise that the rest of us who don't give a f.ck about this sort of sh.t wouldn't have a f.cking clue as to what you're on about, nor do we care. As long as the phone or the email works, that's all that matters. SignatureI don't know what weapons will be used to fight World War III. But World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Einstein. > davmel wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > sort of sh.t wouldn't have a f.cking clue as to what you're on about, nor do we > care. As long as the phone or the email works, that's all that matters. Yeah, but then the rest of you start whining about why you can't keep your email address when you move ISP or why you lose your email address when your ISP or virtual email provider kicks the bucket. If you really didn't care then you wouldn't post a reply so you're just a delusional hypocrite. davmel wrote... > If you really didn't care then you wouldn't post a reply so you're just > a delusional hypocrite. Ooh, hit a nerve, did we? davmel wrote... > Yeah, but then the rest of you start whining about why you can't keep > your email address when you move ISP or why you lose your email address > when your ISP or virtual email provider kicks the bucket. You don't hear me whining about it. At the same time, I'm not making a huge issue out of it like what you are, either. > If you really didn't care then you wouldn't post a reply so you're just > a delusional hypocrite. If you say so. My point is that some of you guys go overboard about matters that are so trivial as to be almost pathetic. > > If your mail server doesn't offer IMAP access than go elsewhere, and > > if you can't because you've locked yourself into a email address [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Gee, you make it sound like some sort of geek-crime not to have a domain that > you can control. Doesn't cost much or take much kloo to buy a .id.au and have it hosted somewhere... And if you don't care, why are you even reading a comms newsgroup? PD SignaturePaul Day > However, in Australia, I am unaware of any such facility existing on > GSM/3G/Next-G networks, apart from when using a Blackberry. You can sort of > do it with '3' by setting a short poll time on your handset and using their > POP server system. If an email is sent via 3 to a handset with a HIGH PRIORITY, an SMS is sent to that handset with the Originator and Subject (up to the 160 character limit of course). I don't think it is actually documented anywhere but I use as a pager. :) SignatureThe views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452> thegoons wrote... However, in Australia, I am unaware of any such facility existing on > GSM/3G/Next-G networks, apart from when using a Blackberry. You can sort of > do it with '3' by setting a short poll time on your handset and using their > POP server system. How about with Next-G, would you get charged exorbidantly > for each poll? The Telstra website shows you how to login to Bigpond on > Next-G handset, however this doesnt help in notifying when u have a new mail > message. What if you're not a Bigpond customer? I'm not, so I don't have an email account with BP. While I would use its services when I connect to the 'net with my NextG phone, I would use my standard ISP's email service either setting up a POP/SMTP account on the phone, or simply using the webmail service that my ISP provides. Either way, I'm charged a fair bit in data charges, whether it be pay as you go or via one of Telstra's data packs. So, I would prefer to SMS or to receive SMSes from people when I'm away and read the emails when I get home. SignatureA woman worries about the future until she gets a husband. A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife. > thegoons wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So, I would prefer to SMS or to receive SMSes from people when I'm away and read > the emails when I get home. Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? > Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: > http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? Pity it works about as well as a colander used as a bucket. Nothing like getting the SMS 12 hours after the email, if at all. PD SignaturePaul Day >> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? > > Pity it works about as well as a colander used as a bucket. Nothing like > getting the SMS 12 hours after the email, if at all. Yeah, BigPond's mail system has been screwed up since inception and truly is a 'best effort' system with no guarantees. Avoid it like the plague. >>> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >>> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yeah, BigPond's mail system has been screwed up since inception and truly > is a 'best effort' system with no guarantees. That's their 'best effort'? How sad........ SignatureKwyj. >>>> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >>>> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That's their 'best effort'? How sad........ Sadly, tel$cum's best effort has never been very good - and it seems to be getting worse. That's particularly true with their internet stuff. The telstra.com web site is the slowest site i've ever come across - except for sites that were hosted on very slow network connections, like dialup. Anyone remember when MelbourneIT (a section of Telstra at the time) misspelt their domain name as "melbouneit.com.au"? And then broke their own rules by changing it. Couldn't even spell their own name... How sad's that? It's just never ending with them. The frontline staff are mostly ok, but the management just haven't got a clue about anything at all. I think they only go to work to catch up with their sleep. >>>>> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >>>>> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Anyone remember when MelbourneIT (a section of Telstra at the time) I don't remember MelbourneIT ever being a part of Telstra???? SignatureKwyj. >>>>>> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >>>>>> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I don't remember MelbourneIT ever being a part of Telstra???? Well, it's about 10 years ago, now, and maybe my memory's playing tricks on me - but i'm pretty sure MelbourneIT started life as a subsidiary of Telstra. >>>>>>> Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: >>>>>>> http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > on me - but i'm pretty sure MelbourneIT started life as a subsidiary of > Telstra. Well, it looks like i'm wrong, and MelbourneIT was an offshoot of Melbourne university. I could have sworn there was some Telstra connection though... Anyway, no need to let reality get in the way of a slag-off of tel$cum, is there! Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in news:4711ec7b$0$11561$5a62ac22 @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au: > Well, it looks like i'm wrong, and MelbourneIT was an offshoot of > Melbourne university. I could have sworn there was some Telstra > connection though... That's certainly closer to my version of reality. > Anyway, no need to let reality get in the way of a slag-off of tel$cum, > is there! No, there absolutely isn't. No slagg-off at hellstra is a bad one, even if its patently inaccurate! As you were! GB Signature"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979) >>>> That's particularly true with their internet stuff. The telstra.com >>>> web site is the slowest site i've ever come across - except for sites [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Melbourne university. I could have sworn there was some Telstra > connection though... You idiot davmel wrote... > > So, I would prefer to SMS or to receive SMSes from people when I'm away and read > > the emails when I get home. > > Telstra provides that service for BigPond/telstra.com email users: > http://telstra.com/comms/alerts/about.asp? I'm talking about using SMS between people, not getting email alerts via SMS. I s'pose that if you're a business customer and can offset the 25c/SMS then it's probably OK. But if I get say, 40 messages a day, that's $10 a day. Over a few days that'd soon add up. Anyway, it's confusing, the last bit about applying for it. Well, this bit here, is... "If you are an existing Telstra BigPond customer or you already have a telstra.com email account, Email Alerts will work directly with your existing account. If you are a Telstra BigPond customer you will need to sign up to telstra.com before registering for Email Alerts." It says in the first sentence that you can get alerts if you're either a BP customer or have a Telstra.com account. In the second sentence it says that you're a BP customer you have to sign up with telstra.com... Unless I'm reading it wrong, and that's always a possibility, then I think that whoever wrote this didn't get it proof read. > davmel wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > that > whoever wrote this didn't get it proof read. telstra.com links to bigpond mail SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >In Japan, every mobile telco and every handset (even the most cheapo >handsets) enable the live reception of e-mail. 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