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Government's war on Telstra puzzles and damages deeply

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Alan Parkington - 27 Oct 2007 03:00 GMT
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http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?story_id=1067618

The Federal Government's war on Telstra is quite irrational. The Government
has driven the market value of Telstra shares down from $7 to just under
$4.50. It has taken decisions which advantage Telstra's overseas competitors
at Telstra's expense. It puts forward arguments that are disingenuous.
Now, on November 13 and 14, right in the middle of an election campaign,
Telstra's challenge to the constitutionality of one government action is to
go before the full bench of the High Court.

Telstra, created out of government instrumentalities by the Hawke Labor
government along lines dictated to it by the telecom unions, was sold to the
public in three tranches, one of which was at $7.

Telstra has 10million customers. More to the point, it has 1.5million
shareholders who will be voting in the federal election soon. The
Government's fervent wish must be that they are voting with the loyalties
that prompted them to take up successive offers, and not with their bruised
hip pockets.

The Government brought in a team of Americans to run the new, commercial,
Telstra after the last float, a team which set out to do exactly that, but
found it could not, because Telstra was bound by regulations administered by
the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

The ACCC sets the price at which Telstra must make its lines available to
Optus (Singapore), Vodafone (British) and Hutchisons (Hong Kong) which
amount to a subsidy by Telstra shareholders to its rivals.

But the greatest atrocity has been to award Opel, a syndicate formed by
Singtel Optus and Elders, the contract to build a network for rural and
regional customers who are not adequately served.

Communications Minister Helen Coonan said the Opel Network would extend
high-speed broadband coverage to 99 per cent of the population. The decision
involved giving Opel $1billion to build this network. It's not a big
extension for $1billion, according to Telstra, which already provides
wireless broadband to 98.8 per cent of the population. What would an
extension towards 99 per cent amount to: 0.01, or the whole hog, 0.02, for
$1 billion? The whole hog would be three small Queensland towns that receive
Opel coverage but do not already receive Telstra's Next G wireless or ADSL
coverage.

The Government is paying Singtel/Optus/Opel close to $1billion to build this
network. Most of the funding is being used not for services to remote parts
of Australia but for alternative services to profitable and well-serviced
centres of high population.

The program provides for provision of 15,000km of transmission. But a hard
look at the proposal indicates that, of this 15,000km of new transmission,
10,300km will be existing Optus transmission, and 2300km will be leased from
other providers. The new build looks to be down to 2400km.

In the aftermath of the deal, Singtel bought into Pakistan's mobile
telephone operation.

Telstra's own plan is for a high-speed broadband network (24megabits to
50Mbps) to homes and businesses in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide,
Perth and the Gold Coast, costing $4.1billion, and funded by Telstra from
its own resources.

The High Court action is over the Government's refusal to pay compensation
for the compulsory acquisition of the last 1.6km of copper to a customer's
premises. Telstra is asking for just terms.

In all probability there would be no problem with generating artificial
competition at the expense of Telstra shareholders if the then finance
minister in the Labor government, Kim Beazley, had corporatised the domestic
telecommunications service and the overseas telecommunications service
separately, and then allowed them to develop as equal and competitive
entities. But he didn't, because of trade-union pressure.
Rod Speed - 27 Oct 2007 03:37 GMT
> From
> http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?story_id=1067618

> The Federal Government's war on Telstra is quite irrational.

Nope, the only sensible thing to do when those stupid
fuckwit yanks made such spectacular fools of themselves.

> The Government has driven the market value of Telstra shares down from $7 to just under $4.50.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever.

The govt didnt do that, it was the fuckwits 'running' telstra that did that.

> It has taken decisions which advantage Telstra's
> overseas competitors at Telstra's expense.

Those decisions happened LONG before
the current govt was even in power, fuckwit.

> It puts forward arguments that are disingenuous.

Corse no one in telstra ever does anything like that, eh ?

> Now, on November 13 and 14, right in the middle of an election
> campaign, Telstra's challenge to the constitutionality of one
> government action is to go before the full bench of the High Court.

And they will lose, just like they have lost EVERY SINGLE court challenge, you watch.

> Telstra, created out of government instrumentalities by the Hawke
> Labor government along lines dictated to it by the telecom unions,

That last is a pig ignorant lie.

> was sold to the public in three tranches, one of which was at $7.

Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits.

> Telstra has 10million customers. More to the point, it has 1.5 million shareholders who will be voting in the federal
> election soon.

You have absolutely NO idea about how many
of the shareholders even get to vote, fuckwit.

> The Government's fervent wish must be that they are voting with the loyalties that prompted them to take up successive
> offers, and not with their bruised hip pockets.

Or the govt might well have enough of a clue to realise that the
votes of the absolute vast majority of those shareholders are
completely irrelevant, because they arent in marginal seats that
have any possibility of changing, and that most of the shareholders
wouldnt be seen dead voting for labor either, even if you are too
stupid to be able to work those basics out for yourself.

> The Government brought in a team of Americans to run the new, commercial, Telstra after the last float,

No the govt didnt, it was the terminal fuckwit McGauchie
that was actually stupid enough to do that.

AND that had been going on for a LONG time before the
current pack of fuckwit yanks ever showed up anyway.

> a team which set out to do exactly that,

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever.

> but found it could not, because Telstra was bound by regulations administered by the Australian Competition and
> Consumer Commission.

Most of which were put in place by Keating, not the current govt, fuckwit.

> The ACCC sets the price at which Telstra must make its lines available to Optus (Singapore), Vodafone (British) and
> Hutchisons (Hong Kong)

And the locally owned telcos too, fuckwit.

And that was done by Keating, fuckwit.

> which amount to a subsidy by Telstra shareholders to its rivals.

And which prevents Telstra from stomping its competitors into the
ground on the price it charges them for the use of the lines that
were paid for by telstra customers when it was a monopoly, fuckwit.

> But the greatest atrocity has been to award Opel, a syndicate formed by Singtel Optus and Elders,

Which doesnt happen to be foreign owned at all, fuckwit.

> the contract to build a network for rural and regional customers who are not adequately served.

And which telstra chose not to provide. Great, makes a lot of sense to
spend a tiny part of what the govt got from the flogging off of telstra to
build what telstra chose not to provide, and provide real competition for
telstra in rural areas, most of which have no competition at all otherwise.

> Communications Minister Helen Coonan said the Opel Network would
> extend high-speed broadband coverage to 99 per cent of the population. The decision involved giving Opel $1billion to
> build this network.

And you deliberately ignore what Opel is contributing to that new network.

> It's not a big extension for $1billion, according to Telstra,

Hell of a lot more than telstra chose to provide, fuckwit.

> which already provides wireless broadband to 98.8 per cent of the population.

And charges utterly obscene prices for that, fuckwit.

> What would an extension towards 99 per cent amount to: 0.01, or the whole hog, 0.02, for $1 billion? The whole hog
> would be three small Queensland towns that receive Opel coverage but do not already receive Telstra's Next G wireless
> or ADSL coverage.

Pity about the radically different charges that Opel will be charging, fuckwit.

> The Government is paying Singtel/Optus/Opel close to $1billion to build this network.

And that group is putting up a similar amount itself, fuckwit.

> Most of the funding is being used not for services to remote parts of Australia but for alternative services to
> profitable and well-serviced centres of high population.

Great, they get real competition which ensures that
telstra doesnt get to shaft them with a monopoly, fuckwit.

> The program provides for provision of 15,000km of transmission. But a hard look at the proposal indicates that, of
> this 15,000km of new transmission, 10,300km will be existing Optus transmission, and 2300km will be leased from other
> providers. The new build looks to be down to 2400km.

Pity that the new system involves a hell of a lot more than just the transmission, fuckwit.

> In the aftermath of the deal, Singtel bought into Pakistan's mobile telephone operation.

Irrelevant when that money the govt handed out has to be spent in this
country and that Singtel will be spending a similar amount in this country too.

> Telstra's own plan is for a high-speed broadband network (24megabits to 50Mbps) to homes and businesses in Sydney,
> Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and the Gold Coast, costing $4.1billion, and funded by Telstra from its own
> resources.

Another bare faced lie, telstra has gone on strike on that, fuckwit.

And what's the big deal spending a tiny part of what the govt got from flogging
off telstra on what telstra wasnt prepared to build in rural areas, fuckwit ?

> The High Court action is over the Government's refusal to pay compensation for the compulsory acquisition of the last
> 1.6km of copper to a customer's premises.

That hasnt been compulsoraly aquired, fuckwit.

> Telstra is asking for just terms.

And will lose that action, just like its lost every single one its tried already, you watch.

> In all probability there would be no problem with generating artificial competition

It aint artificial, its real, fuckwit.

> at the expense of Telstra shareholders if the then finance minister in the Labor government, Kim Beazley, had
> corporatised the domestic telecommunications service and the overseas telecommunications service separately, and then
> allowed them to develop as equal and competitive entities.

Wota terminally stupid approach that would have been.

> But he didn't, because of trade-union pressure.

And Keating imposed those regulations on telstra because that
was  one of the few things he did manage to get right, fuckwit.
 
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