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CDMA: less than 100 days, but still 900,000 customers
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Alan Parkington - 29 Oct 2007 12:37 GMT From http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/
Unless the government intervenes, Telstra will close its CDMA network on 28 January, but the chairman of on its resellers, Fone Zone, has revealed that there are still almost 900,000 customers on the network.
Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will need to move to the Next G network in the next few months and they represent significant potential for Telstra and Fone Zone. We intend to pursue that potential with great vigour."
On 22 October, Telstra Country Wide group managing director, Geoff Booth, was urging CDMA customers to make the switch, saying Telstra did not want any of its customers stranded without a mobile network.
"By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush, be sure that they keep their mobile number and, if they are using prepaid, transfer any remaining credit," Booth said.
To encourage customers to make the move Telstra is offering $100 credit to postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on the Next G network before 13 November 2007.
thegoons - 29 Oct 2007 13:08 GMT > From > http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on the Next G network > before 13 November 2007. $100 is bullshit, I will leave it until the very last day. In any case, Minister Coonan and Attorney General Ruduck will intervene and demand Telstra extend, or else lose their telco license.
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Graeme Willox - 29 Oct 2007 17:08 GMT >> From >> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Minister Coonan and Attorney General Ruduck will intervene and demand > Telstra extend, or else lose their telco license. I saw another article where they said they'd be offering CDMA customers special deals if they signed up for a THREE YEAR contract.
thegoons - 29 Oct 2007 22:02 GMT >>> From >>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I saw another article where they said they'd be offering CDMA customers > special deals if they signed up for a THREE YEAR contract. hahaha would be like carrying around a candlestick telephone by the end of the contract
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Michael - 04 Nov 2007 03:20 GMT >>>> From >>>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > hahaha would be like carrying around a candlestick telephone by the end of > the contract Is that much different from the majority of CDMA customers still using Qualcomm QCP860s, Hyundai HGC-120es or MOT SC3160s?
Michael - 04 Nov 2007 03:20 GMT >> From >> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > $100 is bullshit, I will leave it until the very last day. In any case, Just don't expect that $100 will be there on the last day.
You may get more, less, or nothing
Simon Templar - 29 Oct 2007 15:00 GMT > Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 October that > "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will need to move to > the Next G network in the next few months and they represent significant > potential for Telstra and Fone Zone. We intend to pursue that potential with > great vigour." More Tel$tra w.nk, there is also a potential for many to tell Tel$ra and Fone Zombies to f.ck off and find another provider!
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Rod Speed - 29 Oct 2007 21:52 GMT > From > http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/
> Unless the government intervenes, Which it already has. It changed the license conditions for a reason, fuckwit.
> Telstra will close its CDMA network on 28 January, Wanna bet ? Regardless of who wins the election.
> but the chairman of on its resellers, Fone Zone, has revealed He didnt 'reveal', he CLAIMED, a different matter entirely.
> that there are still almost 900,000 customers on the network. What matters is how many of those still use it.
> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 > October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will need to move to the Next G network in the next > few months Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
> and they represent significant potential for Telstra and Fone Zone. In your dreams, child.
> We intend to pursue that potential with great vigour." Wota f.cking w.nker.
> On 22 October, Telstra Country Wide group managing director, Geoff > Booth, was urging CDMA customers to make the switch, saying Telstra > did not want any of its customers stranded without a mobile network. Wota f.cking w.nker.
> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush, Make a lot more sense to wait till Jan when it will be clearer what the govt of the day plans to do about the shutdown.
With any luck telstra will be told that they wont be allowed to shut it down, ever.
> be sure that they keep their mobile number Thats flagrantly dishonest. They can do that even if the cdma system has just been shut down when they change to something else.
> and, if they are using prepaid, f.ck all of them are and even less of those have any credit.
> transfer any remaining credit," Booth said.
> To encourage customers to make the move Telstra is offering $100 credit to postpaid CDMA customers who move to an > eligible plan on the Next G network before 13 November 2007. And will be offering even more later, you watch.
Michael - 04 Nov 2007 03:22 GMT >> From >> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Which it already has. It changed the license conditions for a reason, > fuckwit. To give itself the POWER to intervene, no evidence they will do that
>> but the chairman of on its resellers, Fone Zone, has revealed > > He didnt 'reveal', he CLAIMED, a different matter entirely. Correct. FZ doesnt have access to Telstra subscribers numbers
>> that there are still almost 900,000 customers on the network. > > What matters is how many of those still use it. Exactly. Plenty of people dont
>> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 >> October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will >> need to move to the Next G network in the next few months > > Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim. In fact, NONE of them 'need' to move, they can be disconnected if they like
>> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush, > > Make a lot more sense to wait till Jan when it will be clearer > what the govt of the day plans to do about the shutdown. Just dont expect that the last offer is the best offer
> With any luck telstra will be told that they wont be allowed to shut it > down, ever. you are dreamin'
Rod Speed - 04 Nov 2007 04:29 GMT > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> From >>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/
>>> Unless the government intervenes,
>> Which it already has. It changed the license conditions for a reason, fuckwit.
> To give itself the POWER to intervene, no evidence they will do that Every evidence, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
Govts dont change license conditions because they have run out of something to do, they change them because they plan to use the change, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>>> but the chairman of on its resellers, Fone Zone, has revealed
>> He didnt 'reveal', he CLAIMED, a different matter entirely.
> Correct. FZ doesnt have access to Telstra subscribers numbers
>>> that there are still almost 900,000 customers on the network.
>> What matters is how many of those still use it.
> Exactly. Plenty of people dont
>>> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 >>> October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will need to move to the Next G network in the >>> next few months
>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
> In fact, NONE of them 'need' to move, they can be disconnected if they like
>>> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush,
>> Makes a lot more sense to wait till Jan when it will be clearer >> what the govt of the day plans to do about the shutdown.
> Just dont expect that the last offer is the best offer Bet it will be.
>> With any luck telstra will be told that they wont be allowed to shut it down, ever.
> you are dreamin' We'll see. Dont forget that the cdma system was only introduced because of the massive sh.t fight that developed IN AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN about the imminent shutting of the AMPS system.
Michael - 18 Nov 2007 04:53 GMT >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > out of something to do, they change them because they plan > to use the change, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. Crap.
It's one of very few examples of the Govt actually planning ahead.
>>>> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 >>>> October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who will >>>> need to move to the Next G network in the next few months > >>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim. He seems to be stupid enough to think that all CDMA customers want to migrate to NextG as well
>>>> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bet it will be. Bet it wont be
>>> With any luck telstra will be told that they wont be allowed to shut it >>> down, ever. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of the massive sh.t fight that developed IN AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN > about the imminent shutting of the AMPS system. When the Govt owned more of Telstra than it does now
Rod Speed - 18 Nov 2007 08:53 GMT > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> From >>>>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/
>>>>> Unless the government intervenes,
>>>> Which it already has. It changed the license conditions for a reason, fuckwit.
>>> To give itself the POWER to intervene, no evidence they will do that
>> Every evidence, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>> Govts dont change license conditions because they have run >> out of something to do, they change them because they plan >> to use the change, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Crap. Thats what stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit children get to you deal with, stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> It's one of very few examples of the Govt actually planning ahead. Yep, to f.ck over telstra very comprehensively indeed on that, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>>>>> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 >>>>> October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers >>>>> who will need to move to the Next G network in the next few months
>>>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
> He seems to be stupid enough to think that all CDMA customers want to migrate to NextG as well Not a shred of evidence that he is actually capable of thought.
>>>>> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush,
>>>> Makes a lot more sense to wait till Jan when it will be clearer >>>> what the govt of the day plans to do about the shutdown.
>>> Just dont expect that the last offer is the best offer
>> Bet it will be.
> Bet it wont be Bet it will be.
>>>> With any luck telstra will be told that they wont be allowed to shut it down, ever.
>>> you are dreamin'
>> We'll see. Dont forget that the cdma system was only introduced >> because of the massive sh.t fight that developed IN AN ELECTION >> CAMPAIGN about the imminent shutting of the AMPS system.
> When the Govt owned more of Telstra than it does now Didnt have a damned thing to do with how much of telstra it owned, everything to do with getting as many votes as it could.
GlennP - 30 Oct 2007 09:24 GMT > From > http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on the Next G network > before 13 November 2007. What makes Telstra think the CDMA customers will move to NextG ? I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & they have no intention of moving to Next G. They're staying well away from Telstra & will be moving to Optus 3G, other resold CDMA customers may well have the same plans. And just for Telstra's interest, Optus 3G is now available well outside the state capitals & is expanding fast. Optus aren't making a big fuss about it, they're just getting on with the job & spending money on the network rather than waisting it on bullshit advertising like Telstra.
Michael W - 02 Nov 2007 05:29 GMT > What makes Telstra think the CDMA customers will move to NextG ? > I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > about it, they're just getting on with the job & spending money on the > network rather than waisting it on bullshit advertising like Telstra. Exactly, I've been with Optus for years now and could never go back to Hellstra. Optus have always been able to better any other telcos offers me, Hellstra contacted me about changing back to them, I asked them what they were offering, I laughed when they told me, I told them what Optus did for me and they muttered something about not being able to match it, haven't heard from them since and hopefully I never will.
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Michael - 04 Nov 2007 03:24 GMT >> From >> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/ [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > What makes Telstra think the CDMA customers will move to NextG ? Because it suits the majority of them
> I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & they > have no intention of moving to Next G. They're staying well away from > Telstra & will be moving to Optus 3G, other resold CDMA customers may well > have the same plans. And Telstra doesnt care anyway, because Telstra arent reselling NextG
In Telstras eyes they are Optus customers who will most likely move to another Optus solution
> And just for Telstra's interest, Optus 3G is now available well outside > the state capitals & is expanding fast. Optus aren't making a big fuss Expanding at snails pace
> about it, they're just getting on with the job & spending money on the > network rather than waisting it on bullshit advertising like Telstra. Then they will lose customers if they have such a fabbo network and cant market it properly
Rod Speed - 04 Nov 2007 04:35 GMT > GlennP <pleasereply@newsgroups.com.au> wrote
>>> From >>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15082/127/
>>> Unless the government intervenes, Telstra will close its CDMA network on 28 January, but the chairman of on its >>> resellers, Fone Zone, has revealed that there are still almost 900,000 customers on the network.
>>> Fone Zone's chairman, Brian Finn, told the company's AGM on 29 >>> October that "there are still more than 880,000 CDMA customers who >>> will need to move to the Next G network in the next few months and >>> they represent significant potential for Telstra and Fone Zone. We >>> intend to pursue that potential with great vigour."
>>> On 22 October, Telstra Country Wide group managing director, Geoff >>> Booth, was urging CDMA customers to make the switch, saying Telstra >>> did not want any of its customers stranded without a mobile network.
>>> "By migrating now customers can also avoid any last minute rush, be sure that they keep their mobile number and, if >>> they are using prepaid, transfer any remaining credit," Booth said.
>>> To encourage customers to make the move Telstra is offering $100 >>> credit to postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on >>> the Next G network before 13 November 2007.
>> What makes Telstra think the CDMA customers will move to NextG ?
> Because it suits the majority of them Pigs arse it does. Its suits the vast majority of cdma users to continue to use the cdma system much more. And thats why telstra is turning it off, to force those to change to NextG, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>> I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & they have no intention of moving to Next G. >> They're staying well away from Telstra & will be moving to Optus 3G, other resold CDMA customers may well have the >> same plans.
> And Telstra doesnt care anyway, because Telstra arent reselling NextG And that is one reason why they are shutting the cdma system down.
> In Telstras eyes they are Optus customers who will most likely move to another Optus solution You dont know that.
>> And just for Telstra's interest, Optus 3G is now available well outside the state capitals & is expanding fast.
> Expanding at snails pace Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
>> Optus aren't making a big fuss about it, they're just getting on with the job & spending money on the network rather >> than waisting it on bullshit advertising like Telstra.
> Then they will lose customers No they wont. f.ck all use 3G and those who do know who offers that.
> if they have such a fabbo network and cant market it properly Doesnt need any marketing, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
Michael - 18 Nov 2007 04:55 GMT >>>> To encourage customers to make the move Telstra is offering $100 >>>> credit to postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Pigs arse it does. Its suits the vast majority of cdma users to continue > to So which non-Telstra-CDMA suits more people than NextG, fuckwit?
> use the cdma system much more. And thats why telstra is turning it off, > to force those to change to NextG, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit > child. Telstra has no say in what you do. They would prefer you to connect to NextG or Telstra GSM, but they have no say
Same as AMPS closure and OneTel GSM 1800 exit.
>>> I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & they >>> have no intention of moving to Next G. They're staying well away from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And that is one reason why they are shutting the cdma system down. NextG came along long before CDMA is being closed down
Rod Speed - 18 Nov 2007 08:58 GMT >>>>> To encourage customers to make the move Telstra is offering $100 >>>>> credit to postpaid CDMA customers who move to an eligible plan on >>>>> the Next G network before 13 November 2007.
>>>> What makes Telstra think the CDMA customers will move to NextG ?
>>> Because it suits the majority of them
>> Pigs arse it does. Its suits the vast majority of cdma users to continue to use the cdma system much more.
> So which non-Telstra-CDMA suits more people than NextG, fuckwit? No one said anything about non telstra CDMA, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>> And thats why telstra is turning it off, to force those to change to NextG, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Telstra has no say in what you do. They would prefer you to connect to NextG or Telstra GSM, but they have no say They clearly can choose to turn the cdma system off, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Same as AMPS closure Nope, nothing like the same. That was the GOVT choosing to turn that off.
> and OneTel GSM 1800 exit. Nope, nothing like the same.
>>>> I personally know a few CDMA customers who are resold with Optus & >>>> they have no intention of moving to Next G. They're staying well >>>> away from Telstra & will be moving to Optus 3G, other resold CDMA >>>> customers may well have the same plans.
>>> And Telstra doesnt care anyway, because Telstra arent reselling NextG
>> And that is one reason why they are shutting the cdma system down.
> NextG came along long before CDMA is being closed down Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever, and why you only ever got to clean the dunnys.
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