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carolinasongbird@gmail.com - 13 Nov 2007 01:17 GMT
Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
staying in Sydney. The Internet access we thought he had -- he
doesn't.

In the States we're used to being able to go to Starbucks or other
restaurants and get online access from our laptop, either for free or
for a small purchase. So far in Sydney he's been able to find a
Kinko's which makes him use their machines (which is slightly
inconvenient, but something he can do) and costs $4/hour. Plus,
they're not open on weekends.

Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
Business District. Thanks!
Kwyjibo - 13 Nov 2007 01:28 GMT
> Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
> help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
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> Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
> Business District. Thanks!

Tell him to take a walk to the rocks where he can get free WiFi.
http://www.therocks.com/sydney-Discover-Free_Wi_Fi_internet_access.htm

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carolinasongbird@gmail.com - 13 Nov 2007 01:54 GMT
> <carolinasongb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kwyj.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Core2Duo - 13 Nov 2007 12:15 GMT
>> Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
>> help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Tell him to take a walk to the rocks where he can get free WiFi.
> http://www.therocks.com/sydney-Discover-Free_Wi_Fi_internet_access.htm

Well done Kwyjibo.
thegoons - 13 Nov 2007 13:22 GMT
e-Bluetooth Internet cafe (Liverpool Street - between Pitt Street and
Castlereagh Street) - $1.00/hour

Everywhere Internet (corner of Liverpool and Castlereagh Streets) -
$2.50/hour

> Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
> help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
> Business District. Thanks!

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The Family - 13 Nov 2007 13:52 GMT
Tell him to fly over to Adelaide, where there's free WiFi all over the CBD,
courtesy of Australia's most innovative independent ISP,  Internode.

Failing that, there's free WiFi in Sydney's Intercontinental Hotel in the
rooftop club (available to guests only - is he staying there?)

Alternatively (and expensively but conveniently), he can access Telstra wifi
hotspots which more or less cover the CBD.  See
http://www.telstra.com.au/wirelesshotspots. This costs A$12/hour or more -
depending on the access method.  He can get the $12 rate by purchasing a
"Telstra Phoneaway" card, available at post offices, electronics shops,
convenience stores etc - or online at
https://www.billpay.telstra.com.au/CallingCards/Purchase.jsp.  You could do
the purchase for him from your home but I THINK he can access these Telstra
sites free of charge from Telstra hotspots.

If dial-up is acceptable (it wouldn't be for most people!) , he could
purchase a pre-paid dialup pack (examples: look for the "Optus" or "Telstra"
brand) from post offices, convenience stores etc.  These are cheap, like
below $1/hour.

> Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
> help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
> Business District. Thanks!
BEMW - 15 Nov 2007 03:26 GMT
> Tell him to fly over to Adelaide, where there's free WiFi all over the CBD,
> courtesy of Australia's most innovative independent ISP,  Internode.
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>> Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
>> Business District. Thanks!

Local council chambers and libraries may offer WiFi for free. I know
Woollahra council does.
Michael - 18 Nov 2007 05:58 GMT
> Tell him to fly over to Adelaide, where there's free WiFi all over the
> CBD, courtesy of Australia's most innovative independent ISP,  Internode.

Yeah, but its Adelaide.

Remember that
Jock - 19 Nov 2007 23:42 GMT
just search for what's around, the CBD has a lot of people that think their
wireless lan (no security applied) works only in their homes and offices.
If he's lucky, there's a travel agency in Market St. that offers unlimited
access to net and their network so you can go in, make a booking, cancel the
booking and have a refund sent.
Not that I would ever have done this.
Jock
| Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
| help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
| Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
| Business District. Thanks!
John Phillips - 19 Nov 2007 23:52 GMT
> there's a travel agency in Market St. that offers unlimited
> access to net and their network so you can go in, make a booking,
> cancel the booking and have a refund sent.
> Not that I would ever have done this.

I have picked up free wireless here and there, but never even tried to
access a network attached;  not even sure if I have the technical
knowledge to do that at all.

So how is it done?

I have read that WEP encryption is also pretty poor;  lot's of sniffers
out there that claim to bust the encryption key.  Is this true?
Jock - 20 Nov 2007 08:25 GMT
| > there's a travel agency in Market St. that offers unlimited
| > access to net and their network so you can go in, make a booking,
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| I have read that WEP encryption is also pretty poor;  lot's of sniffers
| out there that claim to bust the encryption key.  Is this true?

find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the network
stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their data could go
and have an interesting look.
easy
John Phillips - 21 Nov 2007 12:35 GMT
> find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the
> network stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their
> data could go and have an interesting look.
> easy

You wouldn't happen to know equivalent of Network whatever in linux by
any chance?
Jock - 22 Nov 2007 11:00 GMT
| > find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the
| > network stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their
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| You wouldn't happen to know equivalent of Network whatever in linux by
| any chance?

nope.  Sorry.
Will Kemp - 23 Nov 2007 02:41 GMT
>> find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the
>> network stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their
>> data could go and have an interesting look. easy
>
> You wouldn't happen to know equivalent of Network whatever in linux by
> any chance?

What's the operating system got to do with it???

If it works with windows or mac it will work with linux. Networking is
operating system independent.
Kwyjibo - 23 Nov 2007 03:11 GMT
>>> find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the
>>> network stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their
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>
> What's the operating system got to do with it???

Lots.
He was asking what the Linux equivalent of "Network Neighborhood" is.

> If it works with windows or mac it will work with linux. Networking is
> operating system independent.

Pity he wasn't asking about networking in general. He was asking for
specifics on how to set it up which does vary from OS to OS.

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Will Kemp - 23 Nov 2007 08:05 GMT
>>>> find point, connect, open network neighbourhood, browse PCs on the
>>>> network stupidly shared without any kind of awareness of where their
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Lots.
> He was asking what the Linux equivalent of "Network Neighborhood" is.

Ah, yeah. He didn't make himself very clear, did he!

There isn't an answer to his question though. Cos it's not a "linux"
thing, it's dependent on the particular distribution of linux and the
window manager he's using.

With the version of the gnome taskbar i'm using (on Fedora 6), it's in
the "places" menu on the taskbar.

I've no idea how kde (the other most popular window manager) does it
though.

But, in general, it shouldn't be too hard to find. It is likely to be
more straightforward than windows - which is probably why he can't find
it! ;-)
John Phillips - 24 Nov 2007 10:32 GMT
> But, in general, it shouldn't be too hard to find. It is likely to be
> more straightforward than windows - which is probably why he can't
> find it! ;-)

Correct, you win the big cigar!

Possibly KNetAttach?

Using Suse 10.3, KDE
Simon Templar - 20 Nov 2007 08:42 GMT
> I have picked up free wireless here and there, but never even tried to
> access a network attached;  not even sure if I have the technical
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> I have read that WEP encryption is also pretty poor;  lot's of sniffers
> out there that claim to bust the encryption key.  Is this true?

The way I look at it is if it is open then go in and take a look, but
don't abuse it.  Don't leach, cause when the stupid bastard goes
bankrupt because of the excess data fees on his tight arse Tel$tra
broadband the access point won't be there next month.

I don't even bother looking an any access point that has encryption, if
the doors locked then don't go in!  There are more than enough open out
there without trying to break in.

Some people say it isn't a challenge, but as far as I'm concerned it is
just another tool to get email or info while you are out.  Not
interested in it being a challenge.

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Wally - 21 Nov 2007 14:00 GMT
try seaching for hot spots in cbd

tha usually helps

> Hope this isn't too far off-topic for this group, but I need some
> help. My husband is currently on a two-week visit from the States,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Any other options anyone here can suggest? He's staying in the Central
> Business District. Thanks!
 
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