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Mal Carter - 17 Nov 2007 21:08 GMT
is this correct?

3g problem?
Simon Templar - 17 Nov 2007 21:21 GMT
> is this correct?
>
> 3g problem?

There are two issues preventing the iFlop from being used on the 3
Network.  The first being the fact that the iFlop is a GSM only phone.
The second issue is that Apple apparently lock the iFlop down to only
allow them to work with carriers they have signed agreements with.

Move along everyone, nothing to see here.  The iFlop is a waste of time!

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Alan Parkington - 17 Nov 2007 23:34 GMT
>> is this correct?
>>
>> 3g problem?

Plenty of people have it working. Lots of advice on whirlpool under the
phones forum
Simon Templar - 18 Nov 2007 00:39 GMT
> Plenty of people have it working. Lots of advice on whirlpool under the
> phones forum

Fair enough, they might have hacked them to work on GSM, but they won't
be getting them to work on the 3 Network.

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Marts - 19 Nov 2007 20:02 GMT
Simon Templar wrote...

> Move along everyone, nothing to see here.  The iFlop is a waste of time!

Carrier agreements and restrictions aside, what's so great about the
iPhone/iFlop that makes it one of those "gotta have one now" trinkets?

What does it do that say, a Smartphone, or one of the new Motorola V8/V9s won't
do?

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John Phillips - 19 Nov 2007 21:04 GMT
> What does it do that say, a Smartphone, or one of the new Motorola
> V8/V9s won't do?

Actually a lot less.

Generally outdated technology, usual Apple stunt, release the crap
first, build up the excitement in the punter, then sell them again in
the upgrade.

One born every minute!
Rod Speed - 19 Nov 2007 21:16 GMT
> Simon Templar wrote...

>> Move along everyone, nothing to see here.  The iFlop is a waste of time!

> Carrier agreements and restrictions aside, what's so great about the
> iPhone/iFlop that makes it one of those "gotta have one now" trinkets?

It does have some rather interesting approaches with the user interface.

And some very significant limitations too, quite apart from the carrier agreements.

> What does it do that say, a Smartphone, or one of the new Motorola V8/V9s won't do?

The main area where its quite different is in the user interface.

Even to the extent of a G sensor that works out when you have rotated
the device and automatically changes the screen content orientation etc.
Jock - 19 Nov 2007 23:38 GMT
| Even to the extent of a G sensor that works out when you have rotated
| the device and automatically changes the screen content orientation etc.

cats have long been doing that automatically anyway Rod.
I don't understand why a mobile phone has to be more than a phone and a sms
service anyway.  We all got along OK before wap, MMS, vidoephone capability,
blah blah... it's a great piece of marketing to have kids spend more than
they have on such a non essential time waster.
as stated, Nothing new here, move along.
Jock
Rod Speed - 20 Nov 2007 01:24 GMT
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> Even to the extent of a G sensor that works out when you have rotated
>> the device and automatically changes the screen content orientation etc.

> cats have long been doing that automatically anyway Rod.

They arent that flash for internet access tho.

> I don't understand why a mobile phone has to be
> more than a phone and a sms service anyway.

More fool you. Some of us have noticed the advantage of being able to
use google maps when out and about, and be able to look stuff up when
you thought you knew where some place was and it doesnt turn out to
be there when you rock up there, or want to check the ad that got you
going there, to find out that its next week and not today etc etc etc.

I keep all my lists on the phone now, and can chase up stuff like
the model number of stuff I am hunting down a part for, etc etc etc.

When checking what is available before actually buying it, its a lot more
convenient to take a photo of the item on special etc when prowling around
the stores than it is to write down who is offereing what etc etc etc.

> We all got along OK before wap, MMS, vidoephone capability, blah blah...

The same stupid claim was made by dinosaurs about mobile
phones, phones, letters, cars, horses, etc etc etc too.

> it's a great piece of marketing to have kids spend more
> than they have on such a non essential time waster.

> as stated, Nothing new here, move along.

Just another silly old fart/dinosaur that hasnt even noticed that things have moved on.
Allan Parkington - 20 Nov 2007 07:53 GMT
>> I don't understand why a mobile phone has to be
>> more than a phone and a sms service anyway.

Exactly. Rod still rides an old PMG bike he picked up at an auction, and has
previously claimed that the only use for hi-speed broadband is so "that
farmers can watch hi-speed porn". The old coot is a dinosaur.
Jock - 20 Nov 2007 08:23 GMT
| >> I don't understand why a mobile phone has to be
| >> more than a phone and a sms service anyway.
|
| Exactly. Rod still rides an old PMG bike he picked up at an auction, and has
| previously claimed that the only use for hi-speed broadband is so "that
| farmers can watch hi-speed porn". The old coot is a dinosaur.

erm, I posted that quote.
Ta all the same.
Jock
Allan Parkington - 20 Nov 2007 03:21 GMT
> Move along everyone, nothing to see here.  The iFlop is a waste of time!

yes, a real flop that has earned Apple billions!! I can't imagine what you
would consider a success!
Simon Templar - 20 Nov 2007 03:39 GMT
> yes, a real flop that has earned Apple billions!! I can't imagine what you
> would consider a success!

In other countries where 3G has not taken off, the iFlop may well be of
interest to many and no doubt a business success for Apple.  However I
can't really see it taking off here in Australia in it's current GSM form.

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John Phillips - 20 Nov 2007 03:48 GMT
> yes, a real flop that has earned Apple billions!! I can't imagine
> what you would consider a success!

Just released here in UK where I am at present on O2 network, big yawn
because of outdated technology.

As the USA is generally behind in these matters in any case, sold well
there because what the dummies don't know of, the dummies don't want.
 
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