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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / December 2007Who has the better Mobile TV service?
Well OK I am a complete fuckwit nerd clown lazy c.nt (There I have gotton all the insults out of the way). Looks like I like the idea of mobile TV. So who provides the better, less jerkier service? And for 3G applications I have read so far that Vodafone and Optus/ Virgin share the same service? Who does 3 roam with outside of their cell footprints? > Well OK I am a complete fuckwit nerd clown lazy c.nt (There I have > gotton all the insults out of the way). > > Looks like I like the idea of mobile TV. So who provides the better, > less jerkier service? Why the f.ck would you want to pay for f.ck-arse pixelated mobile TV. More money than sense obviously. On Dec 12, 10:12 pm, James Bell <jamesb...@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote: > > Well OK I am a complete fuckwit nerd clown lazy c.nt (There I have > > gotton all the insults out of the way). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > More money than sense obviously. ABC and SBS are FREE on vodafone >> Well OK I am a complete fuckwit nerd clown lazy c.nt (There I have >> gotton all the insults out of the way). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why the f.ck would you want to pay for f.ck-arse pixelated mobile TV. Not pixelated on nextg > More money than sense obviously. > >> Looks like I like the idea of mobile TV. So who provides the > >> better, less jerkier service? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not pixelated on nextg Sure is. Better than previous tries by Australian carriers to do TV on 3G and, previous to that, GPRS. But it certainly isn't Foxtel Digital. PD  SignaturePaul Day >> >> Looks like I like the idea of mobile TV. So who provides the >> >> better, less jerkier service? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Sure is. Not pixelated on my NextG or my wife's new Nokia N95 on NextG James Bell wrote... > Why the f.ck would you want to pay for f.ck-arse pixelated mobile TV. > > More money than sense obviously. Then there's this: http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/snacking-to-spark-mobile-video-explosio n/2007/12/13/1197135639532.html Claims that 21.1 per cent of Australians use fast 3G networks and internet-capable mobile phones. It forecasts this figure will jump to 42.1 per cent in 2010 seem a bit suss to me. Sure, 21 percent of mobile customers are ON the 3G networks, but how many actually use the 3G services? And how extensive is that use? ie. If a person's total use is made up of voice calls, video calls and internet browsing, as an example, what would the breakdown of this be, on average? Mine would be roughly: Voice calls: 94% SMS: 3% MMS: 2% Internet:1% No-one that I know who has moved off CDMA onto NextG has made any real use of the 3G services other than the initial gadget factor when buying a new toy. Usually the thump back to earth came with the first phone bill. Besides, who wants to browse the net on a slow service on a phone with a screen the size of a bee's dick trying to look at web pages that are designed for desktop or laptop computers? SignatureReality is for people who lack imagination. > James Bell wrote >> Why the f.ck would you want to pay for f.ck-arse pixelated mobile TV. >> More money than sense obviously. > Then there's this: > http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/snacking-to-spark-mobile-video-explosio n/2007/12/13/1197135639532.html > Claims that 21.1 per cent of Australians use fast 3G networks and > internet-capable mobile phones. It forecasts this figure will jump to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > browsing, as an example, what would the breakdown of this be, on > average? > Mine would be roughly: > Voice calls: 94% > SMS: 3% > MMS: 2% > Internet:1% The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample' > No-one that I know who has moved off CDMA onto NextG has made any real > use of the 3G services other than the initial gadget factor when buying a new toy. You need to get out more, particularly with business use. > Usually the thump back to earth came with the first phone bill. Anyone with a clue checks that out before using the service. > Besides, who wants to browse the net on a slow service on a phone It isnt a slow service. > with a screen the size of a bee's dick trying to look at web > pages that are designed for desktop or laptop computers? Those that need the much better portability that comes with a phone, and has enough of a clue to use sites that work well on a phone. >> James Bell wrote > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Anyone with a clue checks that out before using the service. Or gets their employer to foot the bill :-) >> Besides, who wants to browse the net on a slow service on a phone > > It isnt a slow service. It can be when it flips backwards and forwards between 3G and HDSPA, but generally it works okay. >> with a screen the size of a bee's dick trying to look at web >> pages that are designed for desktop or laptop computers? > > Those that need the much better portability that comes with a phone, > and has enough of a clue to use sites that work well on a phone. Or to use the phone as a 3G modem for their laptop computer etc. when on the road. I do it all the time. Customers rarely allow me to plug my 'foreign' notebook into their network (and rightly so), so I use the phone as a modem for internet access. SignatureKwyj. Kwyjibo wrote... > > Those that need the much better portability that comes with a phone, > > and has enough of a clue to use sites that work well on a phone. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > notebook into their network (and rightly so), so I use the phone as a modem > for internet access. Thing is, Kwyj, Speed makes some silly comments here, but you've hit the nail on the head with respect to NextG data services and the key word from your perspective is "customer". You use it as a business tool, and for that it's exceptional, particularly plugging the laptop into the phone, or if you get one of those NextG wireless PC cards. For residential users such as myself, and which, I suspect would make up the bulk of NextG customers, it's simply too expensive a service to use on a regular basis. Speed made the stupid comment about "using sites that are designed for mobile phones", but when most sites that you or I as a residential or casual user may want to access do not have equivalent "mobile" web pages, then it merely reinforces what I said. Try logging into your webmail from say, a Samsung A501 or one of Telstra's other low end NextG phones and look at how it appears. Crappy would be one term to describe it. Even Telstra's own mobile services don't look that great. When I got my phone it said that I could check my online billing and current usage. All it did was to take me to the same website that I use to check my phone bill, calls yet to be billed, etc. I was disappointed. My daughter's phone on 3 does it heaps better when she's logged into 3G (it is still accessable outside of a 3G coverage area but on GSM and it's slower). If Telstra could put together a service that when you click on an icon in your phone that it would display a user friendly summary of current usage, data used, cost if on PAYG or data remaining if on a data block plan, then yeah, that'd be great. But it doesn't. You have to go through the same rigmarole to log in and search the various links as you do if you were on the computer. > Kwyjibo wrote >>> Those that need the much better portability that comes with a phone, >>> and has enough of a clue to use sites that work well on a phone. >> Or to use the phone as a 3G modem for their laptop computer etc. >> when on the road. >> I do it all the time. Customers rarely allow me to plug >> my 'foreign' notebook into their network (and rightly so), >> so I use the phone as a modem for internet access. > Thing is, Kwyj, Speed makes some silly comments here, Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim. > but you've hit the nail on the head with respect to NextG data services Nope. > and the key word from your perspective is "customer". Nope. > You use it as a business tool, and for that it's exceptional, > particularly plugging the laptop into the phone, or if you > get one of those NextG wireless PC cards. > For residential users such as myself, and which, I suspect > would make up the bulk of NextG customers, it's simply > too expensive a service to use on a regular basis. Depends entirely on how you use it. The 1GB datapack isnt very differently priced to DSL and thats plenty of volume for many uses. > Speed made the stupid comment about "using sites that are > designed for mobile phones", but when most sites that you or > I as a residential or casual user may want to access do not have > equivalent "mobile" web pages, then it merely reinforces what I said. No it doesnt. > Try logging into your webmail from say, a Samsung A501 or one of > Telstra's other low end NextG phones and look at how it appears. > Crappy would be one term to describe it. Only a fool uses webmail from a NextG phone when there are much better ways to do email from a NextG phone. You qualify. > Even Telstra's own mobile services don't look that great. > When I got my phone it said that I could check my online > billing and current usage. All it did was to take me to the > same website that I use to check my phone bill, calls yet > to be billed, etc. I was disappointed. Your problem. > My daughter's phone on 3 does it heaps better when she's logged into 3G > (it is still accessable outside of a 3G coverage area but on GSM and it's slower). If you prefer the way 3 does things, use 3, fuckwit. > If Telstra could put together a service that when you click on an > icon in your phone that it would display a user friendly summary > of current usage, data used, cost if on PAYG or data remaining > if on a data block plan, then yeah, that'd be great. But it doesn't. > You have to go through the same rigmarole to log in and search > the various links as you do if you were on the computer. No you dont. No surprise that you need a union. >> Kwyjibo wrote > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim. Not at all. They are all there in google. I hope they decide to charge you for storing your more ridiculous comments. You'd be up for millions. SignatureKwyj. > No-one that I know who has moved off CDMA onto NextG has made any real use > of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Besides, who wants to browse the net on a slow service on a phone with a > screen NextG is super fast for web browsing > the size of a bee's dick trying to look at web pages that are designed for Phones like the N95 and some others dont have bees dick screens. They arent Nokia 5110s you know > Well OK I am a complete fuckwit nerd clown lazy c.nt (There I have > gotton all the insults out of the way). LOL > Looks like I like the idea of mobile TV. So who provides the better, > less jerkier service? Couldnt comment on others, having only tried Foxtel on mobile on the NextG service, but . . . No jerkiness whatsoever > No jerkiness whatsoever Haven't used it much I presume? PD SignaturePaul Day >> No jerkiness whatsoever > > Haven't used it much I presume? Used it lots for a couple of months Michael wrote... > Couldnt comment on others, having only tried Foxtel on mobile on the NextG > service, but . . . > No jerkiness whatsoever No, of course there isn't... Either that, or your jerkin' the gherkin canceled it out... SignatureThe brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning and doesn't stop until you get to work. |
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