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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / February 2008Phone blackout risk to country
From http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23004318-2862,00.html THOUSANDS of country Victorians are at risk of being stranded without mobile phone coverage in three weeks. Telstra plans to shut down its CDMA towers and service across Australia on January 28. Despite huge marketing of the replacement $1 billion Next G network, the telco admits several hundred thousand users still have not made the switch -- including tens of thousands in Victoria. Many rural Next G users, including the Victorian Farmers Federation president Simon Ramsay, are unhappy after problems with the new network. The VFF is pleading with the Federal Government not to let Telstra turn off CDMA. "Our membership is not yet satisfied Next G offers a superior network," he said. "In some cases they're experiencing more drop outs, less signal and the call quality is not as good, which is something I've experienced myself." Mr Ramsay said he was worried farmers unable to make it to mobile phone shops or in already remote coverage areas would lose their business and personal life lines. An audit by the Australian Communications and Media Authority on the new network is due on Monday. The report must satisfy Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy that Next G gives equal or better coverage than the CDMA network before it can be turned off. However Telstra is confident Next G will get the go-ahead and the company has no contingency plans. "We really believe we've met our promise to deliver a better service and we now have 2 million Next G customers," said Geoff Booth, Telstra Country Wide's group chief. Anticipating a last-minute rush of mobile phone users wanting to switch networks, Telstra is extending phone shop opening hours, boosting the number of temporary kiosks and offering deals pitched at regional areas. Country mobile phone shops are already reporting demand, with some stores saying business has tripled since Christmas. Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were leaving the change to the last minute. "It was only after Telstra sent out the disconnection letters that people started worrying about it," he said. > From > http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23004318-2862,00.html > THOUSANDS of country Victorians are at risk of being stranded without mobile phone coverage in three weeks. > Telstra plans to shut down its CDMA towers and service across Australia on January 28. And what telstra plans is completely irrelevant and has been for months now. > Despite huge marketing of the replacement $1 billion Next G network, > the telco admits several hundred thousand users still have not made > the switch -- including tens of thousands in Victoria. > Many rural Next G users, including the Victorian Farmers Federation > president Simon Ramsay, are unhappy after problems with the new network. > The VFF is pleading with the Federal Government not to let Telstra turn off CDMA. > "Our membership is not yet satisfied Next G offers a superior network," he said. > "In some cases they're experiencing more drop outs, less signal and the call quality is not as good, which is > something I've experienced myself." > Mr Ramsay said he was worried farmers unable to make it to mobile phone shops or in already remote coverage areas > would lose their business and personal life lines. > An audit by the Australian Communications and Media Authority on the new network is due on Monday. And with any luck telstra will get the comprehensive shafting it deserves. > The report must satisfy Communications Minister Senator Stephen > Conroy that Next G gives equal or better coverage than the CDMA > network before it can be turned off. > However Telstra is confident Next G will get the go-ahead and the company has no contingency plans. They dont need any, if they arent allowed to turn the cdma system off on that date, they will get to like it or lump it. > "We really believe we've met our promise to deliver a better service and we now have 2 million Next G customers," said > Geoff Booth,> Telstra Country Wide's group chief. What you 'really believe' is completely irrelevant. > Anticipating a last-minute rush of mobile phone users wanting to switch networks, Telstra is extending phone shop > opening hours, boosting the number of temporary kiosks and offering deals pitched at regional areas. After its shills claimed that they wouldnt be doing that. > Country mobile phone shops are already reporting demand, It would be a hell of a lot more surprising if they didnt, fuckwit. > with some stores saying business has tripled since Christmas. > Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were leaving the change to the last minute. Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits. > "It was only after Telstra sent out the disconnection letters that people started worrying about it," he said. Must be one of those rocket scientist fuckwits. > The VFF is pleading with the Federal Government not to let Telstra turn > off CDMA. Fark orf. > Mr Ramsay said he was worried farmers unable to make it to mobile phone > shops or in already remote coverage areas would lose their business and They cant make it to a mobile phone shop? What are they, retards? You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. > "We really believe we've met our promise to deliver a better service and > we now have 2 million Next G customers," said Geoff Booth, Telstra Country 2m is amazing in just over a year > Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were > leaving the change to the last minute. w.nkers > You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. What fairy land do you live in? >What fairy land do you live in? Is there more than one???? -------------------------------------- brianWE I live and learn....mainly, though, I just live. > You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. You come out with some absolute pearlers sometimes Michael. :) PD  SignaturePaul Day >> You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. > You come out with some absolute pearlers sometimes Michael. :) Thats why he only ever gets to clean that dunnys |-) >> You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. >> Dicks. > > You come out with some absolute pearlers sometimes Michael. :) Note the word "rely" A mobile should NEVER be your own source of contact as a business owner > PD >>> You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation >>> anyway. Dicks. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > A mobile should NEVER be your own source of contact as a business owner Pity about those who have no f.cking choice because their business isnt in a fixed place, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>>> You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation >>>> anyway. Dicks. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Pity about those who have no f.cking choice because their business > isnt in a fixed place, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. And thats a business risk you have to accept, that your coverage may be unreliable and so may your phone be. > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote >>>>> You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. >>>> You come out with some absolute pearlers sometimes Michael. :) >>> Note the word "rely" >>> A mobile should NEVER be your own source of contact as a business owner >> Pity about those who have no f.cking choice because their business >> isnt in a fixed place, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > And thats a business risk you have to accept, that your coverage may be unreliable and so may your phone be. Pity they have no choice on that, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child. Michael wrote... > They cant make it to a mobile phone shop? What are they, retards? Who better to relate to retards than you? > You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. Dicks. Why not? Anyway, what would you know about running a business. And given that mobile phones were aimed at business users to begin with and that the 3G services are still aimed at business users, how can you make such a statement as that? About time you got off your arse, out of that computer chair of yours and had a look outside of whatever smog ridden, urban cesspit that you "live" in and see how people who live outside of major metro areas actually live. > > "We really believe we've met our promise to deliver a better service and > > we now have 2 million Next G customers," said Geoff Booth, Telstra Country > > 2m is amazing in just over a year No doubt you'd think that. > > Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were > > leaving the change to the last minute. > > w.nkers Again, something that you can relate to. Why shouldn't they wait til the last minute? If their current service is working fine, why bother changing it ahead of time? What becomes an issue for criticism if of course, if they do leave it 'til it's too late, they lose their existing numbers then have an almighty whinge about it. Of course that may be a good opportunity to ditch a phone number that too many people may know about too, such as telemarketers, ex-partners and the like.. > You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. > Dicks. I must print out and frame that one. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com thegoons wrote... > > You shouldnt rely on mobile coverage for a business operation anyway. > > Dicks. > > I must print out and frame that one. Yep, it's a classic, isn't it? > thegoons wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yep, it's a classic, isn't it? Not the first time the dickhead has said this sort of crap. He has also said in the past that you shouldnt rely on any radio system for emergency calling. >> thegoons wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He has also said in the past that you shouldnt rely on any radio system > for emergency calling. For the second time, note the word "rely". You should never RELY on any radio system for emergency calling. VHF, UHF, AMPS, CDMA, GSM, or 3G or any other variants. >>> thegoons wrote... >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> He has also said in the past that you shouldnt rely on any radio >> system for emergency calling. > For the second time, note the word "rely". You can repeat that mindless sh.t till the cows come home child, changes nothing. > You should never RELY on any radio system for emergency calling. Is that right ? Problem is that planes and helicopters and cars and ambulances and fire trucks and cop cars dont work that well without them, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > VHF, UHF, AMPS, CDMA, GSM, or 3G or any other variants. Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a f.cking clue about anything at all, ever. > You should never RELY on any radio system for emergency > calling. VHF, UHF, AMPS, CDMA, GSM, or 3G or any other > variants. Well that's EPIRBs ruled out for distress alerting then. Make that any /single/ radio system in isolation, and you're talking a bit more more sense. Ships for example, must be capable of 3 independent means of sending/receiving SOS messages - 2 approved "separate and independent" for ship to shore, plus at least 1 for ship to ship. John >> You should never RELY on any radio system for emergency >> calling. VHF, UHF, AMPS, CDMA, GSM, or 3G or any other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Make that any /single/ radio system in isolation, and you're > talking a bit more more sense. Thats clearly what was being referred to, but some people cant see the wood for the trees > John Henderson <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote >>> You should never RELY on any radio system for emergency calling. VHF, UHF, AMPS, CDMA, GSM, or 3G or any other >>> variants. >> Well that's EPIRBs ruled out for distress alerting then. >> Make that any /single/ radio system in isolation, and you're talking a bit more more sense. > Thats clearly what was being referred to, Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag. > but some people cant see the wood for the trees Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag. Alan Parkington wrote... > Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were > leaving the change to the last minute. > > "It was only after Telstra sent out the disconnection letters that people > started worrying about it," he said. Or maybe people have decided that they may no longer need their phones due to the exhorbitant cost of using a mobile phone what with their up to $1 a minute timed calls and other expensive services. They may be waiting til the last minute to decide whether or not to continue having a mobile phone. > Anticipating a last-minute rush of mobile phone users wanting to switch > networks, Telstra is extending phone shop opening hours, boosting the > number of temporary kiosks and offering deals pitched at regional areas. This is bullshit. Please list the extended hours and location of temporary kiosks. Please also advise why you have not extended the operating hours of prepaid activations number (I got cut-off when I was on-hold with muzak once 10pm came, as that was the end of their operating hours on weekends). All this smoke and mirrors will not deter the Communications Minister from directing Telstra to retain CDMA, and for Telstra to claim that they have no contingency arrangements is just poor management. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Anticipating a last-minute rush of mobile phone users wanting to switch >> networks, Telstra is extending phone shop opening hours, boosting the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of prepaid activations number (I got cut-off when I was on-hold with muzak > once a) prepaid customers are scum b) register it on the internet Michael wrote... > a) prepaid customers are scum My, what an offensive prick you are. I got a pre-paid SIM card for use in a spare phone for my mother in law while she's visiting (heaps cheaper than international roaming). Not everyone who buys a pre-paid is a druggie, pov, or whatever other label that you wish to support your bigotry with. But then you don't see us hanging sh.t on your types, do we. Oh wait, we do. Sorry. > Michael wrote... > >> a) prepaid customers are scum > > My, what an offensive prick you are. You get that > I got a pre-paid SIM card for use in a spare phone for my mother in law > while [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > label that > you wish to support your bigotry with. Most of them are. Good on your MIL for being an exception Michael wrote... >Most of them are. Good on your MIL for being an exception It was our idea, not hers. She thought that her phone would work here without it being set up for international roaming. We had to explain the process for this to work and what it would end up costing her. Cheaper to put $50 on the pre-paid, which we still have most of. SignatureA little knowledge is dangerous. So is a lot. >From >http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23004318-2862,00.html >THOUSANDS of country Victorians are at risk of being stranded without mobile >phone coverage in three weeks. Yee har - it'll shut you up fuckwit Parkinson! >Telstra plans to shut down its CDMA towers and service across Australia on >January 28. >Despite huge marketing of the replacement $1 billion Next G network, the >telco admits several hundred thousand users still have not made the >switch -- including tens of thousands in Victoria. >Many rural Next G users, including the Victorian Farmers Federation >president Simon Ramsay, are unhappy after problems with the new network. >The VFF is pleading with the Federal Government not to let Telstra turn off >CDMA. >"Our membership is not yet satisfied Next G offers a superior network," he >said. >"In some cases they're experiencing more drop outs, less signal and the call >quality is not as good, which is something I've experienced myself." >Mr Ramsay said he was worried farmers unable to make it to mobile phone >shops or in already remote coverage areas would lose their business and >personal life lines. >An audit by the Australian Communications and Media Authority on the new >network is due on Monday. >The report must satisfy Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy that >Next G gives equal or better coverage than the CDMA network before it can be >turned off. >However Telstra is confident Next G will get the go-ahead and the company >has no contingency plans. >"We really believe we've met our promise to deliver a better service and we >now have 2 million Next G customers," said Geoff Booth, Telstra Country >Wide's group chief. >Anticipating a last-minute rush of mobile phone users wanting to switch >networks, Telstra is extending phone shop opening hours, boosting the number >of temporary kiosks and offering deals pitched at regional areas. >Country mobile phone shops are already reporting demand, with some stores >saying business has tripled since Christmas. >Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were >leaving the change to the last minute. >"It was only after Telstra sent out the disconnection letters that people >started worrying about it," he said. SignatureGreenSpore and HereticWeb Site Administrator and Resident Anti-Globalisation Pundit. You can reach us by email at GreenSpore (site can be found at "http://www.greenspore.org") or HereticWeb (site can be found at "http://www.hereticweb.org"). Check "http://www.bigswamp.net/indexold.html" 2 > Bendigo Fone Zone store manager Shannon Reed said a lot of people were > leaving the change to the last minute. Well if people are that stupid they have no right to complain at the last minute. ~Dan DaN wrote... >Well if people are that stupid they have no right to complain at the >last minute. For some people there is a method to their madness. Leaving it til the "last minute" means that there may also be "last minute" incentives to migrate across to NextG. Also, Telstra may be misreading their customers. They may not be leaving it til the last minute. They may be extracting the last second out of their contracts and may be considering a move to another provider. Optus for one is opening its own 3G network across Oz. It may have better deals to offer. Certainly, if I was still on CDMA I'd be doing this. Wait til the last minute, see what Telstra has to offer to encourage me to move to NextG, or wait to see what its competitors have to offer. The only reason why I'm on NextG now is that when my CDMA phone died it wasn't worth it to get another one. It was cheaper to get a new NextG phone. But not necessarily have to put up with the bugs and the poor coverage that it was first offering. Certainly, the 3G side of things wasn't anything to write home about. And even now I'm not that impressed with it. > DaN wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "last minute" means that there may also be "last minute" incentives to > migrate across to NextG. Last minute WAS Jan 28. Last minute incentives ended. There are no current incentives for consumers - youve left it too late > Also, Telstra may be misreading their customers. They may not be leaving > it til the last minute. They may be extracting the last second out of Of course they have > their contracts and may be considering a move to another provider. Optus It makes no difference whether they port or disconnect - its still a disconnection from Telstra > for one is opening its own 3G network across Oz. It may have better deals > to offer. Optus, further and further behing > Certainly, if I was still on CDMA I'd be doing this. Wait til the last > minute, see what Telstra has to offer to encourage me to move to NextG, or Youll get nothing Michael wrote... > Last minute WAS Jan 28. Last minute incentives ended. > > There are no current incentives for consumers - youve left it too late Um, re-read my post. I am already on NextG. > > Certainly, if I was still on CDMA I'd be doing this. Wait til the last > > minute, see what Telstra has to offer to encourage me to move to NextG, or > > Youll get nothing Um, re-read my post. I am already on NextG. |
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