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Alan Parkington - 30 Apr 2008 19:49 GMT
As Australia edges closer towards getting a decision on a 21st century high
speed national broadband network, it's amusing to see how speculation about
Telstra getting the go-ahead to build it has flushed some of the
anti-Telstra raving loonies out of the woodwork.

Of course in any other country it would probably seem logical that the green
light for such a project would be given to the national carrier. After all
it has the assets, the knowledge, the workforce and the financial clout to
make it work - not to mention, in Telstra's case, the country's biggest 'mum
and dad' shareholder base.

But not so in Australia.

When Phil Burgess made a remark about his confidence in Telstra being
successful, it was seized upon by the usual rent-a-quote critics as being a
sign that some sort of 'sneaky deal' had been done.

Really, all Phil was doing was stating the bleeding obvious.

The Australian Financial Review (22nd April) threw its hat firmly into the
ABT (Anyone But Telstra) camp, backing the SingTel G9 argument that a new
fibre network was unnecessary. In its editorial, the paper argued that most
Australians already have access to decent broadband -thanks, it said, to the
efforts of Telstra's competitors who've been putting DSLAMS into city phone
exchanges and piggybacking off Telstra's copper lines.

This just goes to prove that the AFR's editorial team must be among the
lucky few who live within a stone's throw of a city telephone exchange and
can get half decent speeds. They obviously couldn't care less for those
living in the outer suburbs and beyond who are missing out because they're
too far from an exchange. 'Let them eat cake'. Nor do they seem to
understand that even the current speeds available over copper will seem slow
in the not too distant future

This debate really shows up the difference between Telstra and the ABT
brigade. As the only truly national carrier, only Telstra has the national
interest at heart and realises that planning has to occur now to ensure
Australians have access to world-class broadband speeds required for the
future.

Telstra's competitors on the other hand will say or do anything to preserve
the status quo and keep creaming profits in the major cities thanks to the
ACCC's basket-case brand of price-setting, effectively forcing Telstra
shareholders to subsidise everything and everyone else.

Telstra's Tony Warren recently compared the hysterical G9 campaign to that
of a blacksmith doing his best to ignore the arrival of the motor car.

For students of history, there is in fact a much closer parallel to the
current debate - that which occurred 'canal mania' period in Britain when
powerful canal owners did everything they could to protect their profits and
thwart competition from railways (Liverpool and Manchester history -
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk)

The waterways that criss-crossed Britain were, they argued, the best and
most cost effective way of moving industrial goods. So they lobbied the
government to stop the trains competing.

History of course shows the railways finally prevailed. If the canal owners
had their way Britain's industrial revolution probably would have stalled.

So it is with Singapore Government-controlled Optus, its G9 collective and
their media cheer squad. Acting in their own self interest, they would
rather see Australia's economic development halted rather than allow Telstra
to invest in crucial national infrastructure.

It really is a sad spectacle to witness.
Rod Speed - 30 Apr 2008 20:49 GMT
> As Australia edges closer towards getting a decision on a 21st
> century high speed national broadband network, it's amusing to see
> how speculation about Telstra getting the go-ahead to build it has
> flushed some of the anti-Telstra raving loonies out of the woodwork.

And plenty of fuckwits like you too.

> Of course in any other country it would probably seem logical that the green light for such a project would be given
> to the national
> carrier. After all it has the assets, the knowledge, the workforce
> and the financial clout to make it work - not to mention, in Telstra's case, the country's biggest 'mum and dad'
> shareholder base.

Telstra was always welcome to do it any time they
chose to, just like they did with the adsl1 network.

If they want the govt's $4.7B, they get to do it the way the govt requires it be done.

> But not so in Australia.

Not so with Telstra, actually.

> When Phil Burgess made a remark about his confidence in Telstra being successful, it was seized upon by the usual
> rent-a-quote critics as being a sign that some sort of 'sneaky deal' had been done.

> Really, all Phil was doing was stating the bleeding obvious.

Nope, lying to his teeth, as always.

> The Australian Financial Review (22nd April) threw its hat firmly into the ABT (Anyone But Telstra) camp, backing the
> SingTel G9 argument that a new fibre network was unnecessary.

They're right. When the vast bulk of broadband users choose to
have broadband at 256Kb, what the f.ck is the point in pissing
$10B or more against the wall on faster than adsl2+ can ALREADY
do when clearly f.ck all are even bothering with adsl2+, just so that
arsehole yank, Murdoch, can flog DVD quality or better movies faster ?

> In its editorial, the paper argued that most Australians already have access to decent broadband

They're right.

> -thanks, it said, to the efforts of Telstra's competitors who've been putting DSLAMS into city phone exchanges and
> piggybacking off Telstra's copper lines.

Because thats what our legislators had enough of a clue to allow.

AND it aint just the citys either, virtually everyone who can get
DSL can have adsl2+ if they want it, and are prepared to pay
the stupid ripoff prices that Telstra is choosing to charge for that.

Clearly f.ck all are actually that stupid.

> This just goes to prove that the AFR's editorial team must be among
> the lucky few who live within a stone's throw of a city telephone
> exchange and can get half decent speeds.

Bare faced lie. Hordes can get very decent speeds without being
anywhere near a stone's throw from a city telephone exchange, fuckwit.

> They obviously couldn't care less for those living in the outer suburbs and beyond who are missing out because they're
> too far from an exchange.

There's f.ck all of those.

> 'Let them eat cake'.

Let go of your dick, child.

> Nor do they seem to understand that even the current speeds available over copper will seem slow in the not too
> distant future

Who cares ?  Telstra is welcome to do FTTN any time it likes.

Its just not welcome to expect the govt to pay $4.7B towards it unless
its prepared to comply with the conditions on that that the govt requires.

> This debate really shows up the difference between Telstra and the ABT brigade.

Nope, if shows what pathological liars you clowns have always been.

> As the only truly national carrier, only Telstra has the national interest at heart

Is that right ?  How odd that they refused to build the FTTN using entirely their own money then.

> and realises that planning has to occur now to ensure Australians have access to world-class broadband speeds required
> for the future.

They were welcome to build a FTTN network any time they liked.

They chose not to, and only ever planned to do it in parts of the capital citys ANYWAY.

> Telstra's competitors on the other hand will say or do anything to
> preserve the status quo and keep creaming profits in the major cities

Corse Telstra never ever does anything like that, eh ?

> thanks to the ACCC's basket-case brand of price-setting, effectively
> forcing Telstra shareholders to subsidise everything and everyone else.

Hang on, Telstra claimed that they get an 18% return on capital.

Thats not subsidising anyone, you silly little pathological liar.

> Telstra's Tony Warren recently compared the hysterical G9 campaign to
> that of a blacksmith doing his best to ignore the arrival of the motor car.

And only a fool like you would buy such mindless
silly stuff from just another lying telstra arsehole.

> For students of history, there is in fact a much closer parallel to
> the current debate - that which occurred 'canal mania' period in
> Britain when powerful canal owners did everything they could to
> protect their profits and thwart competition from railways (Liverpool
> and Manchester history - www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk)

Wota f.cking w.nker...

> The waterways that criss-crossed Britain were, they argued, the best and most cost effective way of moving industrial
> goods. So they lobbied the government to stop the trains competing.

> History of course shows the railways finally prevailed. If the canal owners had their way Britain's industrial
> revolution probably would have stalled.

Irrelevant to broadband now, fuckwit.

> So it is with Singapore Government-controlled Optus, its G9 collective and their media cheer squad.

Nope.

> Acting in their own self interest, they would rather see Australia's economic development halted rather than allow
> Telstra to invest in crucial national infrastructure.

Telstra is welcome to do FTTN without the govt contribution any time it likes, fuckwit.

> It really is a sad spectacle to witness.

Your lying isnt even that. Just pathetic.
Polly the Parrot - 30 Apr 2008 22:26 GMT
> When Phil Burgess made a remark about his confidence in Telstra being
> successful, it was seized upon by the usual rent-a-quote critics as
> being a sign that some sort of 'sneaky deal' had been done.

Hey Parky bot - "rent a quote".  That's you to a tee, you fool!
Paul Day - 30 Apr 2008 23:28 GMT
> successful, it was seized upon by the usual rent-a-quote critics as being a

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black there Parky!

PD

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