> Yep, of course there would be. If it ain't broke, why fix it? If it can
> be re-used as part of an upgrade, why ditch it? If it can be software
> upgraded, why replace it?
It's been replaced to provide more and better services.
> Even the new NextG network relies on numerous chunks of hardware from
> the CDMA network which won't be removed as part of CDMA's decommision.
Total and utter CRAP!
The NextG network uses all new hardware. The only CDMA stuff re-used
is the frequency range, and transmission links.
> In fact, that was one of the points Telstra harped on about when the
> NextG plans were first announced - re-use of existing equipment from the
> CDMA network.
See above
> > It's has been progressively replaced/updated since it was installed,
> > and is still being replaced/upgraded today.
>
> Sure, but doesn't the same apply to CDMA over the past 9 years?
CDMA has been upgraded to the end of it's life. There is no way
forward from here.
> > The CDMA equipment is/was still pretty much the same as was installed
> > 10 years ago, and the upgrade path was a dead end.
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> life?
> - addition of better and denser metro coverage
More of the same old equipment.
> - addition of Short Message Service
> - addition of better voice codecs (GSM-8PSK-AMR and EVRC)
> - addition of packet data (GPRS and 1xRTT)
CDMA could do this when it was installed. It was ahead of it's time
when it went in, but it's at the end of the road. There is nowhere to
go from here for CDMA.
> - addition of high-speed packet data (EDGE and EV-DO)
>
> So if CDMA didn't need _any_ hardware upgrades to acheive all that while
> GSM needed plenty, does that means CDMA was the better choice for a
> mobile network technology from an infrastructure perspective?
See above.
> PD
>
> --
> Paul Day
Good Luck.
Michael - 10 May 2008 04:29 GMT
>> Yep, of course there would be. If it ain't broke, why fix it? If it can
>> be re-used as part of an upgrade, why ditch it? If it can be software
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> Total and utter CRAP!
> The NextG network uses all new hardware. The only CDMA stuff re-used
Depends what you classify as "hardware". The huts are shared with CDMA - so
is that "all new hardware". What about cooling units, aircon? power? etc
Is that "all new hardware"
> CDMA has been upgraded to the end of it's life. There is no way
> forward from here.
Was our CDMA flavour the latest and greatest flavour of CDMA? I doubt it
> More of the same old equipment.
>
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>
> CDMA could do this when it was installed. It was ahead of it's time
Was SMS available at launch? I have a feeling it wasnt, it was a few months
off
Paul Day - 10 May 2008 11:06 GMT
> >> - addition of Short Message Service
> >> - addition of better voice codecs (GSM-8PSK-AMR and EVRC)
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> Was SMS available at launch? I have a feeling it wasnt, it was a few months
> off
Nope, it wasn't. Nor was 1xRTT. Mr Beef here obviously isn't too sure
what he's arguing, so better to let it slide unless watching someone dig
deeper entertains you. *shrug
PD

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cornedbeef007-groups@yahoo.com.au - 14 May 2008 05:46 GMT
> > CDMA could do this when it was installed. It was ahead of it's time
>
> Was SMS available at launch? I have a feeling it wasnt, it was a few months
> off
The CDMA system was capable of SMS at launch, but Telstra didn't
install "all" of CDMA for the launch.
SMS capabilty was added to the Telstra CDMA network after launch.
Come to think of it, SMS wasn't available at launch of GSM either!!!
Both networks have evolved over time. GSM / NextG has a road map
ahead, and CDMA was at a dead end.
It's turned off now. GET OVER IT.
Good Luck.
Michael - 14 May 2008 22:32 GMT
>> > CDMA could do this when it was installed. It was ahead of it's time
>>
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>
> The CDMA system was capable of SMS at launch,
Clearly not, as you would have been able to SMS at the time
>but Telstra didn't
> install "all" of CDMA for the launch.
Obviously they installed the requirements of a CDMA service, which is to be
able to make and receive calls whilst in a coverage area
> SMS capabilty was added to the Telstra CDMA network after launch.
>
> Come to think of it, SMS wasn't available at launch of GSM either!!!
Exactly
Paul Day - 14 May 2008 23:47 GMT
> Come to think of it, SMS wasn't available at launch of GSM either!!!
That's right, it wasn't. Yet another point of similarity between the two
networks. You've forgotten which side of this thing you were
passionately arguing, haven't you...
*shakes head*
PD

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mathewm@sNOSPAMdf.lonestar.org - 15 May 2008 03:14 GMT
>>> CDMA could do this when it was installed. It was ahead of it's time
>> Was SMS available at launch? I have a feeling it wasnt, it was a few months
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>
> Come to think of it, SMS wasn't available at launch of GSM either!!!
Different situation. By the time CDMA got here, customers were very well
accustomed to having SMS as they had on GSM, and expected the same on CDMA.