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Telstra has options if loses Australia fibre bid

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Alan Parkington - 20 May 2008 00:01 GMT
From
http://in.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idINWEA756620080519?sp=true

PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group, Telstra
(TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the country's high-speed
fibre-optic network but has other options if it fails to win the government
deal, its chief executive said on Monday.

The Australian government last month called for bids for a broadband network
to improve Internet access, which is slower and more expensive than in many
other developed countries. Officials have warned Australia may become less
competitive without faster, nationwide coverage.

The government is offering A$4.7 billion ($4.5 billion) in funding, which it
wants the winning bidder to match. But Telstra Chief Executive Sol Trujillo
told the Reuters Technology, Media and Telecoms Summit in Paris the network
may cost far more to build.

"When you look at 98 percent of the nation -- we have already said publicly
that it would cost us about 4.5 to 5 billion dollars to do the five big
cities of Australia, and we all know that the first 50 percent is a lot more
cost effective than the last 50 percent," he said.

Assuming that the cost of the last 50 percent was roughly twice as high, the
total could quickly run up to A$15 billion, he said.

"We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're going
to respond in a way that makes sense for our shareholders," Trujillo added.
Rod Speed - 20 May 2008 00:40 GMT
Yeah, it can always chuck a tantrum and see if anyone cares.

Alan Poxington <w.nker@iarseaustralia.com.au> wrote

> From
> http://in.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idINWEA756620080519?sp=true

> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group, Telstra (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to
> build the country's high-speed fibre-optic network but has other options if it fails to win the government deal, its
> chief executive said on Monday.

Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

> The Australian government last month called for bids for a broadband network to improve Internet access, which is
> slower and more expensive than in many other developed countries.

That last is a bare faced lie.

> Officials have warned Australia may become less competitive without faster, nationwide coverage.

Bare faced lie. No such 'official' has done anything of the sort.

> The government is offering A$4.7 billion ($4.5 billion) in funding, which it wants the winning bidder to match.

Which it REQUIRES the winning bidder to match.

> But Telstra Chief Executive Sol Trujillo told the Reuters Technology, Media and Telecoms Summit in Paris the network
> may cost far more to build.

Like it or lump it, mexican fuckwit.

> "When you look at 98 percent of the nation -- we have already said
> publicly that it would cost us about 4.5 to 5 billion dollars to do the five big cities of Australia, and we all know
> that the first 50 percent is a lot more cost effective than the last 50 percent," he said.

Wota terminal fuckwit.

> Assuming that the cost of the last 50 percent was roughly twice as high,

Nothing like plucking stupid numbers out of your arse.

> the total could quickly run up to A$15 billion, he said.

Like it or lump it, mexican fuckwit.

> "We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're going to respond in a way that makes sense for
> our shareholders," Trujillo added.

Then the govt will tell you to go and f.ck yourself, just like it did with the Opel contract.
Horry - 20 May 2008 04:55 GMT
> Yeah, it can always chuck a tantrum and see if anyone cares.
>
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>
> Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

That was originally Telstra's preference.

>> The Australian government last month called for bids for a broadband
>> network to improve Internet access, which is slower and more expensive
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Bare faced lie. No such 'official' has done anything of the sort.

Rudd did.  Admittedly, he wasn't an 'official' at the time.
Rod Speed - 20 May 2008 05:36 GMT
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Yeah, it can always chuck a tantrum and see if anyone cares.

>> Alan Poxington <w.nker@iarseaustralia.com.au> wrote

>>> From
>>> http://in.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idINWEA756620080519?sp=true

>>> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group,
>>> Telstra (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the
>>> country's high-speed fibre-optic network but has other options if it
>>> fails to win the government deal, its chief executive said on Monday.

>> Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

> That was originally Telstra's preference.

Only if the govt had been stupid enough to allow them to refuse to resell it.

Which would have returned DSL to a monopoly again.

No thanks.

There's a reason that telstra was forced to allow resale of the copper pair system.

And they should have been forced to resell the adsl2+ system too.

>>> The Australian government last month called for bids for a
>>> broadband network to improve Internet access, which is slower
>>> and more expensive than in many other developed countries.

>> That last is a bare faced lie.

>>> Officials have warned Australia may become less
>>> competitive without faster, nationwide coverage.

>> Bare faced lie. No such 'official' has done anything of the sort.

> Rudd did.

He wasnt anything like an official when he did that.

> Admittedly, he wasn't an 'official' at the time.

So what I said is correct, that that was a bare faced
lie. No such 'official' has done anything of the sort.
Michael - 21 May 2008 22:45 GMT
>> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group, Telstra
>> (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the country's
>> high-speed fibre-optic network but has other options if it fails to win
>> the government deal, its chief executive said on Monday.
>
> Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

why would they, when govt is stupid enough to stump up 4.7b?

>> The Australian government last month called for bids for a broadband
>> network to improve Internet access, which is slower and more expensive
>> than in many other developed countries.
>
> That last is a bare faced lie.

Crappola.

Part, or maybe the majority, of the cost difference, b/w Oz and the majority
of the other 'developed countries' would be the sheer physical size of the
network. Australia is massive compared to most other developed countries.

>> "When you look at 98 percent of the nation -- we have already said
>> publicly that it would cost us about 4.5 to 5 billion dollars to do the
>> five big cities of Australia, and we all know that the first 50 percent
>> is a lot more cost effective than the last 50 percent," he said.
>
> Wota terminal fuckwit.

Which part did you not understand?

>> "We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're
>> going to respond in a way that makes sense for our shareholders,"
>> Trujillo added.
>
> Then the govt will tell you to go and f.ck yourself, just like it did with
> the Opel contract.

What Opel contract?
Rod Speed - 21 May 2008 23:24 GMT
>>> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group,
>>> Telstra (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the
>>> country's high-speed fibre-optic network but has other options if it fails to win the government deal, its chief
>>> executive said on Monday.

>> Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

> why would they, when govt is stupid enough to stump up 4.7b?

Because the govt wont be giving telstra that $4.7B, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

>>> The Australian government last month called for bids for a broadband network to improve Internet access, which is
>>> slower and more expensive than in many other developed countries.

>> That last is a bare faced lie.

> Crappola.

Your sig is supposed to be at the bottom, with a line with ---
by itself on it in front of it, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> Part, or maybe the majority, of the cost difference, b/w Oz and the majority of the other 'developed countries' would
> be the sheer physical size of the network.

Irrelevant to whether that last is a bare faced lie, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> Australia is massive compared to most other developed countries.

Irrelevant to whether that last is a bare faced lie, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

>>> "When you look at 98 percent of the nation -- we have already said publicly that it would cost us about 4.5 to 5
>>> billion dollars to do the five big cities of Australia, and we all know that the first 50
>>> percent is a lot more cost effective than the last 50 percent," he said.

>> Wota terminal fuckwit.

> Which part did you not understand?

Nothing to 'understand', you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

>>> "We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're going to respond in a way that makes sense for
>>> our shareholders," Trujillo added.

>> Then the govt will tell you to go and f.ck yourself, just like it did with the Opel contract.

> What Opel contract?

The one Labor reneged on after promising not to do that, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
Michael - 24 May 2008 03:12 GMT
>>>> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group,
>>>> Telstra (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Because the govt wont be giving telstra that $4.7B, you stupid dunny
> cleaning fuckwit child.

We'll see.

>>>> "We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're
>>>> going to respond in a way that makes sense for our shareholders,"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> The one Labor reneged on after promising not to do that, you stupid dunny
> cleaning fuckwit child.

I say again, what Opel contract? Because it dont exist anymore.
Rod Speed - 24 May 2008 05:17 GMT
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>> PARIS, May 19 (Reuters) - Australia's dominant telecoms group,
>>>>> Telstra (TLS.AX: Quote, Profile, Research), wants to build the
>>>>> country's high-speed fibre-optic network but has other options if it fails to win the government deal, its chief
>>>>> executive said on Monday.

>>>> Yeah, it can always pay for the entire thing themselves.

>>> why would they, when govt is stupid enough to stump up 4.7b?

>> Because the govt wont be giving telstra that $4.7B, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> We'll see.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit children ?

>>>>> "We're going to respond to the RFP (request for proposals), but we're going to respond in a way that makes sense
>>>>> for our shareholders," Trujillo added.

>>>> Then the govt will tell you to go and f.ck yourself, just like it did with the Opel contract.

>>> What Opel contract?

>> The one Labor reneged on after promising not to do that, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> I say again, what Opel contract?

The one Labor reneged on after promising not to do that, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> Because it dont exist anymore.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit children ?
 
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