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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / August 2008Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/telstra-ups-charges-for-landlines-mobiles/20 08/08/15/1218307227832.html Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles Matt O'Sullivan August 16, 2008 TELSTRA has announced a rise of about 4 per cent in access charges for almost half its home-phone lines, just two days after posting a 13 per cent jump in annual profits to $3.7 billion. The telco will also charge fixed-to-mobile calls in 30-second blocks - instead of per second - which consumer groups said could boost customers' mobile-phone bills significantly. As well, calls to 13 and 1300 customer service numbers will increase by 2.5 cents to 30 cents a call. The increase in charges applies to three of Telstra's eight home line plans, which are understood to make up almost half of its 5.5 million residential lines. The company declined to reveal the number of lines affected, citing "commercial confidentiality". Sharemarket analysts estimate the $12 a year increase in home telephone access charges alone will boost Telstra's annual after-tax profit by about $20 million - based on an average monthly charge of about $27. The Consumers' Telecommunications Network said the increase made it less viable for customers to retain a home-phone line, while the change to fixed-to-mobile calls could increase bills significantly. "People who are trying to save a bit of money with the cheap line rental are the ones who are going to be most affected," the network's policy adviser, Sarah Wilson, said. But Telstra said it was the first increase in monthly access charges for more than two years, emphasising that phone charges had fallen in real terms. Analysts said yesterday Telstra faces the danger of customers baulking at the higher charges and using only mobile phones or switching to other carriers. The increase in charges will take effect on November 1. > Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles Another reason to move your account to another carrier. How about it, Parky bot? >> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles > > Another reason to move your account to another carrier. > > How about it, Parky bot? The tiny rise is smaller than inflation. I will continue to pay a small margin for the best service and keeping the profits here in Oz, thereby keeping jobs and opportunites here. Alan Poxington <w.nker@iarsethiscountry,com.au> wrote >> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote >>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. >> How about it, Parky bot? > The tiny rise is smaller than inflation. Telco's charges are supposed to DROP over time, fool. > I will continue to pay a small margin for the best service Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys. > and keeping the profits here in Oz, Just another of your bare faced lies when Telstra has so many foreign shareholders. > thereby keeping jobs and opportunites here. Pity about the 25% they are going to sack. Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. >> thereby keeping jobs and opportunites here. > > Pity about the 25% they are going to sack. What 25%? The 12000? Even more of those now outsourced, so its better all roung > Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. Correct. Apparently they are doing some Credit Management calls now >>> I will continue to pay a small margin for the best service >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys. >>> and keeping the profits here in Oz, >> Just another of your bare faced lies when Telstra has so many foreign shareholders. And is stupid enough to pay useless yanks such obscene bags of gold. >>> thereby keeping jobs and opportunites here. >> Pity about the 25% they are going to sack. > What 25%? The 12000? Nope. > Even more of those now outsourced, so its better all roung Pity it blows a f.cking great hole in his stupid claims, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >> Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. > Correct. Apparently they are doing some Credit Management calls now And have been doing that with their spruik calls for a hell of a long time now. >>> Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. > >> Correct. Apparently they are doing some Credit Management calls now > > And have been doing that with their spruik calls for a hell of a long time > now. Telstra outbound sales calls I assume you mea? All the ones made by Telstra are made in Australia. >>>> Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. >>> Correct. Apparently they are doing some Credit Management calls now >> And have been doing that with their spruik calls for a hell of a long time now. > Telstra outbound sales calls I assume you mea? I dont ever mea, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > All the ones made by Telstra are made in Australia. Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's arse. >>>>> Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's > arse. Please name the call centre owned by Telstra Corp which is located overseas and makes sales calls. Thanks > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Wont be long before they start using foreign call centers either. >>>>> Correct. Apparently they are doing some Credit Management calls now >>>> And have been doing that with their spruik calls for a hell of a long time now. >>> Telstra outbound sales calls I assume you mea? >> I dont ever mea, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>> All the ones made by Telstra are made in Australia. >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a >> f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's arse. > Please name the call centre owned by Telstra Corp which is located overseas and makes sales calls. Doesnt have to be owned by Telstra, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>>> All the ones made by Telstra are made in Australia. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Doesnt have to be owned by Telstra, you stupid pig ignorant completely > illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. Then if it isnt owned by Telstra, then it isnt "ones made by Telstra" >>>>> All the ones made by Telstra are made in Australia. >>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a >>>> f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's arse. >>> Please name the call centre owned by Telstra Corp which is located overseas and makes sales calls. >> Doesnt have to be owned by Telstra, you stupid pig ignorant >> completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > Then if it isnt owned by Telstra, then it isnt "ones made by Telstra" Wrong, as always. The call wasnt initiated by santa, you stupid pig ignorant lying fuckwit dunny cleaning child. >>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > margin for the best service and keeping the profits here in Oz, thereby > keeping jobs and opportunites here. But the profits aren't kept in Aus, are they parkybot? Massive amounts of them are paid out to Telstra's foreign owners and management - i bet not much of the millions of dollars Tujillo's paid stays in Aus. And Telstra's sacking Australians and exporting their jobs to the Phillipines. >>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > But the profits aren't kept in Aus, are they parkybot? Massive amounts of > them are paid out to Telstra's foreign owners and management - i bet Massive? I think its about 15% of total shares, havent received the annual report yet > not much of the millions of dollars Tujillo's paid stays in Aus. And > Telstra's sacking Australians and exporting their jobs to the Phillipines. There is some BOH functions in Manila, yes. >>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Massive? I think its about 15% of total shares, havent received the annual > report yet That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian owned". >>>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian owned". Simple maths, and you've got it wrong 100% of shares owned by Australians = Australian owned 0% of shares owned by Australians = foreign owned 85% of shares owned by Aussies, you can pretty much define that as "Australian owned:" >>>>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Simple maths, and you've got it wrong Whether or not it's a "long way" is nothing whatever to do with "simple maths" - it's down to an entirely objective view of the difference between a "long way" and "close". > 100% of shares owned by Australians = Australian owned > 0% of shares owned by Australians = foreign owned > > 85% of shares owned by Aussies, you can pretty much define that as > "Australian owned:" The lie that parkybot spouts over and over and over and over and ... is that Telstra is Australian owned and therefore its profits stay in Australia and Optus is foreign owned and therefore its profits go overseas. But apparently Optus doesn't make a profit, so that means that none of Optus's profits go overseas. Telstra makes quite a large profit - and (if your figure of 15% is to be believed) 15% of Telstra's dividends go overseas. 15% of Telstra's dividends is quite a lot of money. And that's leaving aside the unknown proportion of Telstra shares that are owned by "Australian" companies which are themselves at least partly foreign-owned. *That* is a bloody long way from none of Telstra's and all of Optus's profits going overseas! Have i put it simply enough for your grasp of "simple maths" to make sense of it yet? >>>>>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>>>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > maths" - it's down to an entirely objective view of the difference > between a "long way" and "close". Oops! Not quite... I meant to say it's down to an entirely *subjective* view of the difference... (although i doubt Michael would understand the difference!) >>>>>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>>>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >But apparently Optus doesn't make a profit, so that means that none of >Optus's profits go overseas. (snip) which technically means that the Singaporeans are subsidising Australia, not raping it like the parkybot likes to claim. >>> That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian >>> owned". [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > But apparently Optus doesn't make a profit, so that means that none of Dunno who claimed that. Was he stupid enough to do so? > Optus's profits go overseas. Telstra makes quite a large profit - and (if > your figure of 15% is to be believed) 15% of Telstra's dividends go I'm not sure of the exact figure, but it used to be in the Telstra annual report, year on year. > overseas. 15% of Telstra's dividends is quite a lot of money. And that's But its still only 15% of the total profit. Not sure how the gross amount is relevant > leaving aside the unknown proportion of Telstra shares that are owned by > "Australian" companies which are themselves at least partly foreign-owned. Bit of a pointless point there, splitting hairs. You might have a partner who is from overseas, and so half your net worth is technically owned overseas. Pointless. > *That* is a bloody long way from none of Telstra's and all of Optus's > profits going overseas! > > Have i put it simply enough for your grasp of "simple maths" to make sense > of it yet? You f.cked most of it up. >>>>>>> Telstra ups charges for landlines, mobiles >>>>>> Another reason to move your account to another carrier. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian >> owned". > Simple maths, and you've got it wrong Nope, you have. > 100% of shares owned by Australians = Australian owned > 0% of shares owned by Australians = foreign owned Pity we happened to be discussing the ownership of the TELCO, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. > 85% of shares owned by Aussies, you can pretty much define that as "Australian owned:" Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's arse. >>> That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian >>> owned". [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Pity we happened to be discussing the ownership of the TELCO, you So was I, do try to keep up > stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit > child. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's > arse. Obviously you dont know what 85% means >>>> That's still a long way from the parkybot's fantasy of "Australian owned". >>> Simple maths, and you've got it wrong >> Nope, you have. >>> 100% of shares owned by Australians = Australian owned >>> 0% of shares owned by Australians = foreign owned >> Pity we happened to be discussing the ownership of the TELCO, you >> stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. >>> 85% of shares owned by Aussies, you can pretty much define that as "Australian owned:" >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a >> f.cking clue and why you only get to clean the dunnys and lick the Mex's arse. > Obviously you dont know what 85% means It certainly doesnt mean that Telstra is Australian owned, you stupid pig ignorant completely illiterate lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child. |
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