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Cellular Phone Forum / General / Bluetooth / July 2004syncml/http over bluetooth
would someone per chance know of a triband phone with sensible addressbook, good battery life, and most importantly, which can connect to the internet via bluetooth? i have the nokia 6230 and it can't do so, presumably because the providers lobby nokia to disable the feature to foster GRPS sales. i need to use syncml to connect to an internal server, so GRPS is not going to cut it since the server is firewalled. moreover, i am not willing to pay shitloads of money for my synchronisation, which i am going to be doing very frequently. cheers, -m The P800 should do, the P900 was modified.  SignatureMauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices Bluetooth guides: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449 Performance Centre (Pocket PC reviews): http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=2028 Handango discount: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/handango_code.asp > would someone per chance know of a triband phone with sensible > addressbook, good battery life, and most importantly, which can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > cheers, > -m > The P800 should do, the P900 was modified. So the P900 can't do it anymore? >>The P800 should do, the P900 was modified. > > So the P900 can't do it anymore? I personally don't understand what you are asking, You want to sync your mobile address/cal/whatnot with some remote system ie. a system that is not in your personal space [10metres]. If you don't want to use gprs or gsm etc.. than how else do you expect to communicate with remote systems. You are aware that Bluetooth is limited in range to about 10 metres and is designed for cable replacement for local systems. (headsets/pda/phone/laptop) The only option is to connect via a Lan Access Point but is this a feature of any BT phones, being that they are DCE kit themselves? Mauricio, maybe you can help me understand, what exactly did the p800 do that the p900 does not, with respect to martins original post. :) thanks Rob > I personally don't understand what you are asking, Sorry for not being clear. > You want to sync your mobile address/cal/whatnot with some remote > system ie. a system that is not in your personal space [10metres]. yeah, but i want to use my workstation as a proxy, with PAN or DUN. Thus, the cellphone tunnels IP requests (such as HTTP) through Bluetooth (L2CAP) and the workstation then forwards them onto the ethernet. > The only option is to connect via a Lan Access Point but is this > a feature of any BT phones, being that they are DCE kit > themselves? I know I can connect a computer to the Internet via the BT phone. But can I connect the phone to the Internet via a computer? -m > > The P800 should do, the P900 was modified. > > So the P900 can't do it anymore? To connect you simply install the Sony Ericsson software on your computer and connect the phone (via USB or Bluetooth). The mRouter will act as a proxy. AFAIK the P900 had this disabled, like the Nokia 6600. As you mentioned before, most probably some operator complained about losing revenue. SignatureMauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices Bluetooth guides: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449 Performance Centre (Pocket PC reviews): http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=2028 Handango discount: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/handango_code.asp > > > The P800 should do, the P900 was modified. > > So the P900 can't do it anymore? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > mentioned before, most probably some operator complained about losing > revenue. Apple's iSync software works via the mRouter technique. If you poke around, you can find the executable that is used, and run it yourself. It works with the P800 and the P900; I'm able to ping my P900 as we speak. > Apple's iSync software works via the mRouter technique. If you poke > around, you can find the executable that is used, and run it yourself. > It works with the P800 and the P900; I'm able to ping my P900 as we > speak. won't this require me to be on OS X? also, the 6230 does not seem to be supported. > > > > The P800 should do, the P900 was modified. > > > So the P900 can't do it anymore? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It works with the P800 and the P900; I'm able to ping my P900 as we > speak. Being able to ping the P900 is good. Are you able, once connected, initiate a connection FROM the P900. For example, if you start Opera, can you browse a site via this connection, not GPRS? SignatureMauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices Bluetooth guides: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449 Performance Centre (Pocket PC reviews): http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=2028 Handango discount: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/handango_code.asp > Being able to ping the P900 is good. Are you able, once connected, initiate > a connection FROM the P900. For example, if you start Opera, can you browse > a site via this connection, not GPRS? Yes, Opera works via Bluetooth. I have set up IP masqerading and used that for P900 browsing. It's _possible_ that they may have broken this in the newest firmware version or something - I'm on O2 Germany, so the firmware is slightly older. Interestingly, the P900 dropped the ability to select IPv6 in the network dialogs. My P800 could be configured to have a static IPv6 address and nameserver; the P900 only lets you configure IPv4 ones. I'm pretty sure nobody has ever used that feature, but I was disappointed to see it go away. How did the Nokia 6600 block bluetooth browsing? Is it possible to establish a TCP connection to the computer running mRouter, but just not use it as a router? Or, perhaps, did they merely not add that computer as a router? Perhaps if you use Symbian OS calls to set up the desktop as a default router, it'll work... > How did the Nokia 6600 block bluetooth browsing? Is it possible to > establish a TCP connection to the computer running mRouter, but > just not use it as a router? Or, perhaps, did they merely not add > that computer as a router? Perhaps if you use Symbian OS calls to > set up the desktop as a default router, it'll work... Would you have further references on that? I don't even know how to approach this... -m > > How did the Nokia 6600 block bluetooth browsing? Is it possible to > > establish a TCP connection to the computer running mRouter, but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Would you have further references on that? I don't even know how to > approach this... http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html The routing tables are different. You can only connect to the computer at the other end of the bluetooth link, rather than using it as a router to get on the Internet. Using this guy's useful little app, you can fix that. |
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