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Cellular Phone Forum / General / Bluetooth / May 2008Laptop As A Stereo Receiver
Hello, I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play music from my bluetooth enabled phone? My laptop has bluetooth as well. Thanks. dmly.usa@gmail.com wrote in news:1193167366.878403.181000 @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com: > Hello, > I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play > music from my bluetooth enabled phone? My laptop has bluetooth as > well. > > Thanks. Sure! Go download Orb from: http://corp.orb.com/ It's free! You DON'T INSTALL IT ON THE LAPTOP...or PDA...or Nokia N800 like mine...(c; It installs as a SERVER at home on your massive mainframe. It converts media into a Realvideo or Windoze Media or Quicktime stream and sends it out to your laptop, or in my case the little Nokia N800 internet tablet either through my BT phone modem on Alltel or any available wifi the N800 stumbles across. I almost lost it at a wifi-enabled restaurant! The kids at the next table over heard the Bugs Bunny cartoons I was playing off Orb on the tablet. I told their parents, NO, I didn't want to take them with me. Raising mine was quite enough! Orb will play all your videos/audios/make beautiful slide shows of your photo files. It will even CONTROL your compatible TV card in your home computer, REMOTELY! If you hook cable TV to the TV card on your home PC, you can watch any channel it's allowed to see....STREAMED to your laptop! Really cool. If you have a webcam, you can set it up and access it remotely from anywhere with that BT phone....seeing what the baby sitter is REALLY doing to your kids. I use Skype, so I don't know what it's myPhone will do... ---------------------------------------------- Any internet radio station will play on your laptop over Sellphone wifi via BT. The 1X dialup speed on Sellphones will balk. We have EVDO on Alltel, now. Larry  SignaturePlease be very careful and read your Sellphone carrier's user agreement with you before doing any of the above. For instance, all this is FORBIDDEN, SPECIFICALLY on Verizon, which SPECIFICALLY says their Sellphone internet is to ONLY be used for email, looking at spammer webpages and connecting to your company's intranet if you're a salesman on the road. Any kind of uploading, downloading, streaming is specifically forbidden. Of course, they have to catch you first. Verizon just dumps you if you use 5GB/month!....hardly "unlimited service" like its ads say.... > dmly....@gmail.com wrote in news:1193167366.878403.181000 > @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > if you use 5GB/month!....hardly "unlimited service" like its ads > say.... Hi Larry, thanks for your kind explanations. I am happy user of N770 and would like to test streaming video/audio from PC running orb server to my N770 over bluetooth and wifi. How to start up ? Already installed orb on my pc, what do I need to do next ? I am aware my N770 can listen to data/audio/video streams but I am going to listen to peer-to-eer streams, Internet off-line. There is an option in media settings , already enabled, called UPnP AV Media Server and help files says it should enable any such streaming. But what application should I run on my N770 and at what setup to read data streams from my PC ? Thanks. Darius "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193502670.525168.279090 @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com: > But what application should I run on my N770 and at what setup to read > data streams from my PC ? Orb uses no apps on the mobile end of the system. You access your Orb with the web browser, enter username and password and logon. The Orb server decides if you did it right, then instructs your orb to call the mobile with ITS own webpage structure, complete with variable skins to suit. Having pre- configured orb on the server PC to include the directories you wish presented, first, You may access the files in many different ways by clicking the webpage control selections. Once having chosen something to play, audio, video, photo, etc., Orb starts streaming back to the mobile's webpage in whichever of the 3 stream encoders you chose, Realvideo/audio in our case to the Nokias. The Nokia automatically boots mplayer and its REAL codecs and starts streaming through mplayer. If you chose play all or shuffle, it will sequentially stream every file in the genre or directory you selected. Nothing "installs" on the N770. It's a webpage controlled streamer just like BBC. Larry SignatureYou can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. > "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 > @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193502670.525168.279090 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > intelligent life in the universe > because they have never called Earth. Thanks Larry, your are really Great. Unfortunatelly installation of my old Micronet SP906A RadioLink pci adapter failed as my PC can't bios boot when card installed. But I am sure I worked fine under another PC running 98 Windows, some years ago. Thanks for your kind explanations as I was not aware how orb does work as it released another distribution ported to Nokia 800 and was afraid having to have orb on server and client both installed. So I have to buy new wifi usb dongle or wifi pci card and start installation from the beginning. Some time ago I played around with winamp radio broadcasting , setting up winamp server. So it would be nice to have Media Streamer by Nokia installed on Nokia Tablet to have an option to open local files and remote networked media streams as Winamp does. And oine more question. Have you tried your Nokia 800 to act as a network WiFi/Bluetooth bridge to have N800 networked to PC over bluetooth for PC orb stream reception and have N800 Wifi to forward media stream to another Wifi enabled N800 ? Thanks. Darius "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193578276.177241.286530@ 19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com: > Thanks for your kind explanations as I was not aware how orb does work > as it released > another distribution ported to Nokia 800 and was afraid having to have > orb on server and client both installed. > So I have to buy new wifi usb dongle or wifi pci card and start > installation from the beginning. Orb was never ported to anything I can find but Windows XP SP2 and Vista. Nothing changes on the N800 when you listen to Orb...same old browser...same old Real playing on mplayer. Orb has no client program at all. I can use the Orb server at home same as anywhere else on the planet...Connect n800 to wifi or my cellphone, it matters not, then put username/pw into the bootup window in Opera 8 browser on the N800 and it comes right up over the LAN, if I'm wifi connected to the Netgear router. You don't have to "buy anything new". > Some time ago I played around with winamp radio broadcasting , setting > up winamp server. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and > have N800 Wifi to forward media stream to another Wifi enabled N800 ? No, haven't tried to use BT for it. Orb is connected to the Ethernet port, not BT. I don't think it's capable, by itself, of networking over BT. There's no reason to do it that way as the computer is hard wired to the wifi router transmitting 802.11g to the N800. Can't imagine why you'd want to bridge them, either...?? Orb simply CONSUMES a 3.4G Athalon 64's CPU what with having to use DivX to decode, uncompress and provide a video and audio data stream TO Orb, then have Orb take that and package it, on-the- fly, to be a Realmedia stereo streamer out to the Ethernet port. That's asking quite a LOT of a little PC with a 400 Mhz motherboard! It would never be able to do that to TWO users at once. There's simply not that kind of horsepower in a fast XP desktop. Watching Process Explorer (pre Micro$not) and you can see Orb's process and server applet just sucking CPU cycles dry. Larry SignatureYou can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. > "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 > @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193578276.177241.286530@ [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > and Vista. Nothing changes on the N800 when you listen to > Orb...same old browser...same old Real playing on mplayer .... > (cut for clarity..) Ok. You are right. I was misguided by application name: Orb-Nokia, Download Orb Nokia http://corp.orb.com/en/download_nokia Is MyCasting something special Nokia N800 related only ? http://corp.orb.com/n800/ Thanks again. Darius "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193687148.197525.254220 @z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: > Is MyCasting something special Nokia N800 related only ? No, it isn't. I think Orb may be connected, possibly supported, by Nokia, but I'm not sure. Orb, installed on my WinXP box with 4.8TB of drives on cable broadband, works great to my Gateway laptop wherever I land. I can tell Orb, by remote control, to reduce its bandwidth usage so it will stream quite nicely through my BT DUN Alltel E815 where no wifi exists, to either the N800 internet tablet or the Gateway laptop. As no software is installed on the mobile unit, there's no limitations on its use by the mobiles. Orb is now advertiser supported with a clickad on the webpage on the laptop, but not the N800 interface where there is no room for it. Nokia may subsidize that. corp.orb.com/ without the N800 extension, is for all other mobile users. Don't download and install Orb on your laptop! It only installs on the SERVING computer. Larry SignatureYou can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. > "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 > @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193687148.197525.254220 [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > intelligent life in the universe > because they have never called Earth. Thanks Larry, I was advised to test TVersity media streaming server Installed it on PC XP Windows and can run it locally as http://localhost:41952/ unfortunately can't set up ad-hoc wireless network (no access point, no router, static IP addresses both on Nokia maemo and PC) and trying Opera web browser on Nokia to open http://PC IP address: 41952/ or Media Streamer, the existing wireless ad-hoc network connection is saved and network connection utility invoked on Nokia hanging it up, crashing and rebooting. It seems I can't TVersity wireless stream media to Nokia maemo without router/access point assigning DHPC IP addresses. Asked developers at maemo, asked users at internettablettalk, asked users at TVersity forums and keep trying to give the idea to buy wireless AP/router to replace my wireless lan pci card installed in PC, I just bought 2 days ago. Thanks. Darius "http://members.lycos.co.uk/dariusjack/" <dariusjack2006 @yahoo.ie> wrote in news:1193970017.027984.257050 @o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com: > Asked developers at maemo, asked users at internettablettalk, asked > users at TVersity forums > and keep trying to give the idea to buy wireless AP/router to replace > my wireless lan pci card installed in PC, > I just bought 2 days ago. Just go get Orb. Works great. I spent the day at Alltel, today. Moto E815 has hardware/software bug that causes it to get dumped LOTS and Alltel admitted it, today. Swapped me for obsolete Moto V3a, which I found out has no internet, no DUN, NO JOY! After consultation with store manager, swapped me for Samsung SCH-R500, another old phone they're dumping for $39. It pairs with the Nokia N800 from the N800 and the N800 reports DUN, OPP, FTP, SPP profiles. HOWEVER, the Samsung phone reports the N800 ONLY DOES OPP PROFILE! It won't, of course, connect or let me use the new Samsung as a DUN....so back she goes in the morning. Samsung says BT v1.2 on R500's OLD operating system. Nokia N800 is BT V2.0. Alltel hasn't a clue and says they don't support DUN connecting any more....so does Samsung! I'm going to go try to FORCE them to let me have a Moto ROKR, instead of this old obsolete crap, tomorrow. ROKR has V2.0 DUN,SPP,FTP,OPP My old E815 paired instantly with the Nokia N800 from day one Too bad E815's firmware is crap and can't stay connected to Alltel EVDO.....DAMMIT! I spent 8 hours on this, today, when I should have been working. Nuts......(d^:) Larry SignatureYou can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. > Hello, > I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play > music from my bluetooth enabled phone? My laptop has bluetooth as > well. > > Thanks. I've seen that work on two laptops and I've seen it not work on three laptops. On the three laptops where it didn't work one of them even had built in bluetooth, but I think something it wrong with it. The other two laptops used an dongle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth On the two laptops where it did work they were less than 1 month old. Your mileage my vary. >> Hello, >> I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Your mileage my vary. be aware that most phones do mono (not stereo) and have a headset profile (mono speaker and mic) which won't do promiscuous mode transmissions, while some dongles support that (stereo/promiscuous) profile, most phones only support a mono (headset) profile.... > >> Hello, > >> I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > some dongles support that (stereo/promiscuous) profile, most phones only > support a mono (headset) profile.... Good point and I have a way to see if there really is a left and right channel when I'm in doubt. I play an MP3 file that came with a Creative Labs MP3 player that states "Left Channel on the left channel and then "Right Channel" on the right channel. BTW I found a Clock Radio that is also a Bluetooth Stereo Receiver and a Bluetooth Speaker phone. http://www.ihomeaudio.com/pdf/iHC5_IB_09250747846_69.pdf I'll add this too. While "most phones only support a mono . . ." from what I've seen every WM6 Pocket PC/Phone supports "Wireless Stereo" with AVRCP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVRCP#Audio.2FVideo_Remote_Control_Profile_.28AVRCP.29 >>>> Hello, >>>> I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVRCP#Audio.2FVideo_Remote_Control_Profile_.28AVRCP.29 At any rate, as said, there are usually at least two profiles involved, headset (mono, also has a mike, ergo since data is sent both ways pairing is non promiscuous, and the stereo profile, two thngs/channels unidirectional only, and can be in promiscuose mode (ie no pairing, data receive only, no sending involved, and there can be an unlimited number of units listening to something in promscuous mode.... a simpler way (IMO, and that I use for multiple devices in the same room) are the BT stereo transmitters that plug into the stereo headset jacks of your puter/stereo/tv/tivo/cable box/etc, and the BT stereo headsets that you can wear to hear what stereo music the device is putting out..... Those use the one way stereo headset profiles rather than the one way mono headset/mic profile.... depending on the phone/provider, it may not even support the stereo profile.... PS, that link you posted for the bluetooth speaker phone is definatly NOT stereo, note that the stereo receiver is stereo, but the speaker phone is mono > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I wonder if I could use my Sony laptop as a stereo receiver to play [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > from what I've seen every WM6 Pocket PC/Phone supports "Wireless > > Stereo" with AVRCP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVRCP#Audio.2FVideo_Remote_Control_Profile_.28AVRCP.29 > At any rate, as said, there are usually at least two profiles involved, > headset (mono, also has a mike, ergo since data is sent both ways pairing is > non promiscuous, and the stereo profile, two thngs/channels unidirectional > only, and can be in promiscuose mode (ie no pairing, data receive only, no > sending involved, and there can be an unlimited number of units listening to > something in promscuous mode.... Yes there are *two* distinct profiles and they are "Hands Free"/"Headset" *and* "Wireless Stereo." The only difference I've seen between the "Hands Free" and the "Headset" is that the "Headset" has no way to make a phone call or hang up a phone call. As for the "Wireless Stereo." Out of all the "Wireless Stereo" devices I've paired with every single one of them had a left and right channel making them Stereo. I've already mentioned the MP3 I use to make sure the two channels are really separated. > a simpler way (IMO, and that I use for multiple devices in the same room) > are the BT stereo transmitters that plug into the stereo headset jacks of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > profile.... depending on the phone/provider, it may not even support the > stereo profile.... See if your Bluetooth Stereo Headsets has buttons for next track and previous track. I'll bet they do because every Stereo Bluetooth device I've seen to date supports AVRCP. You are missing half the fun if you simply plug a BT Stereo transmitter into the "stereo headset jack" because that doesn't give you a way to skip to next track or go back to previous track. > PS, that link you posted for the bluetooth speaker phone is definatly NOT > stereo, note that the stereo receiver is stereo, but the speaker phone is > mono If you looked closer at that manual you would see the Bluetooth Clock Radio has two separate features: Bottom of Page 4 it states: "Listening to Bluetooth Music Devices (with A2DP and AVRCP profiles) That is the "Wireless Stereo" and it is easily proven with a MP3 file that has distinct left and right channels. Top of Page 6 it states "Answering and Making Calls with a Bluetooth Mobile Phone. That is the "Hands Free" that you are talking about being "mono." And if you pair to the "Bluetooth Clock Radio" with a WM6 PPC/phone it will show up as both "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free" and you do not have to use both either. Any questions? |
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