Hi Daniel,
Daniel Brose schrieb:
> Hi all!
>
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> makes it more difficult yet not impossible.
> What do you guys think about that? Do you switch of BT?
From my understanding, running your BT phone in "non-discoverable mode"
(this is probably what you call "hidden mode") is sufficient. Guessing
the BT address (with "Redfang" or sth. comparable") takes (based on my
tests) about 20 secs per probed address. However, there is an address
space of (at least) 256 ^ 3 addresses (given the manufacturer of your
phone is known to the attacker). So you averagely need 256 ^ 3 * 20 secs
/ 2 = 5 years to find the address of a non-discoverable phone. This is
totally unrealistic.
I'm wondering whether anybody here has made other experiences with
"Redfang" that would make this tool appear more realistic.
Without knowing your device address an attacker is not able to attack
your non-discoverable BT phone.
Michael

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University of Siegen, Germany
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Collin R. Mulliner - 18 May 2004 14:28 GMT
Hello,
> From my understanding, running your BT phone in "non-discoverable
> mode"
> (this is probably what you call "hidden mode") is sufficient. Guessing
yes, "hidden mode" should be ok.
> I'm wondering whether anybody here has made other experiences with
> "Redfang" that would make this tool appear more realistic.
not really
> Without knowing your device address an attacker is not able to attack
> your non-discoverable BT phone.
exactly!
... Collin

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bluetooth device security database - http://betaversion.net/btdsd/
Daniel Brose - 18 May 2004 15:09 GMT
Hi all,
Collin R. Mulliner schrieb:
>>Without knowing your device address an attacker is not able to attack
>>your non-discoverable BT phone.
>
> exactly!
thanks a lot for your answers! I feel relieved now... :-)
Regards
Daniel
There is a firmware version that correct the t610 behaviour, since the
weakness is in the implementation anche not intrinsic in the bluetooth
protocols.
In italy formware update is free under warranty
Regards.
> Hi all!
>
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> Thanks in advance
> Daniel