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Aron $Pickles$ Y.B. Ben-Zev - 27 Feb 2004 23:18 GMT

Hi,

Sorry if the x-posting is annoying some people, I just wanted to kill a few
birds with one stone.

I currently have a Nokia 6100. I live in Israel. I will be in the UK in less
than 2 weeks (London & Manchester) at which time I would like to buy a new
cellphone. It has to be unlocked or easily unlockable (without a cable, for
free). I currently have a Palm Zire 71 (PDA) and was thinking of getting a
phone which would incorporate a PDA with a phone such as the Treo 270 or (I
understand there is) a Compaq version with M$ Windows CE. I also have a
Panasonic NV-DS60 Mini DV Camera. Please whoever is kind enought to answer
consider all my other devices that I have.

Anyway's these are my questions.
1.
a. What phones better than the Nokia 6100 exist in the UK, at the cheaper
end of the range?
b. Where do I get them? (Doesn't have to be under insurance, can be
second hand as I will be bringing it back with me. Willing to trade in my
6100).
2.
a. Is it worth getting one with a CIF (digital camera in built), what
quality will the pics be?
b.Which is more worthwhile - PDA or CIF for the phone?
c. What phones are there with a CIF?
3.
a. Is it worth getting a PDA phone?
b. Prices?
c. Treo 270 vs. iPaq? (considering I already have a Palm OS PDA, maybe I
should get a CE PDA too?)

Thanks to anybody who could reply to me at me@picklesgeek.net.

All the best,
Pickles.

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sosolid - 28 Feb 2004 00:55 GMT

just keep the 6100. phones are expensive here, as for the pda business dunno
mate

> Hi,
>
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> All the best,
> Pickles.

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Aron $Pickles$ Y.B. Ben-Zev - 28 Feb 2004 13:46 GMT

Thanks for your response.

1. I'm tired of my 6100.
2. Phones are still definitely cheaper in the UK than in Israel (my 6100
costs here the equivalent of 310 GBP!).
3. I'm a gadget man and like new devices, in Israel before any phone can be
marketed it needs to go through a long process to get a license (for self
use, however you can bring any phone in), therefore there are a lot less
phones here than in the UK.
4. I don't need a brand new handset, I'm willing to give my 6100 as a trade
in (perfect condition besides for the panel and keypad, which can be
replaced at minimal price - unlocked).

Any more ideas?

> just keep the 6100. phones are expensive here, as for the pda business dunno
> mate
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> > All the best,
> > Pickles.

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michael turner - 28 Feb 2004 01:34 GMT

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 01:18:38 +0200, Aron (Pickles) Y.B. Ben-Zev wrote:

> Hi,
>
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> cheaper
> end of the range?

Seen as the 6100 is slightly towards the more expensive end, £150-£250
without contract. It's unlikly that you'll find anything thats better at
the cheaper end.

> b. Where do I get them? (Doesn't have to be under insurance, can be
> second hand as I will be bringing it back with me. Willing to trade in
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> b.Which is more worthwhile - PDA or CIF for the phone? c. What phones
> are there with a CIF?

Do you need a phone with a camera ? Good quality (2megapixel) digital
cameras are quite cheap now.

> 3.
> a. Is it worth getting a PDA phone?

Could be, but they ain't at the 'cheaper end' of the market.

> b. Prices?
> c. Treo 270 vs. iPaq? (considering I already have a Palm OS PDA, maybe
> I
> should get a CE PDA too?)

Are you happy with the Palm ? IMHO CE (Pocket Windows) PDAs don't do any
more than Palms do.

I'd say keep the 6100 and the Palm. And get yourself a digital camera if
you feel the need to.

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Aron $Pickles$ Y.B. Ben-Zev - 28 Feb 2004 13:46 GMT

> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 01:18:38 +0200, Aron (Pickles) Y.B. Ben-Zev wrote:
>
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> I'd say keep the 6100 and the Palm. And get yourself a digital camera if
> you feel the need to.

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Robert M. - 28 Feb 2004 15:07 GMT

> however you can bring any phone in

Sounds like a way to earn a living.

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Aron $Pickles$ Y.B. Ben-Zev - 28 Feb 2004 20:09 GMT

For personal usage.

Illegal to resell, I know of one person who got caught and fined the
equivalent of 10,000 GBP.

> > however you can bring any phone in
>
> Sounds like a way to earn a living.

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michael turner - 28 Feb 2004 22:10 GMT

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:46:19 +0200, Aron (Pickles) Y.B. Ben-Zev wrote:

> Thanks for your response.
>
> 1. I'm tired of my 6100.

I'm not tired of my 6100 yet, it does everything I need of a mobile. :-)

> 2. Phones are still definitely cheaper in the UK than in Israel (my 6100
> costs here the equivalent of 310 GBP!).
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>
> Any more ideas?

If you're tired of the 6100, then IMHO any phones at the lower end will be
even more boring.

How about a Nokia 6600 ? It's got more or less everything, camera, video,
PDA functions, Symbian, bluetooth. Although it's fairly expensive without
contract.

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Kevin Lawton - 29 Feb 2004 14:37 GMT

Aron,
Keeping this 'on topic' for the nokia newsgroup which I am replying via.
The latest Symbian OS phones, like the 7650 and 6600 give you some of the
basic PDA functionality in a phone together with the facility to load in
programs as Java applications for special stuff you might want to do. I've
just moved up from a 7650 to 6600 with the main bonus being it can use MMC
cards to expand memory and the bluetooth works better. Not a bad option if
you just want to carry one device, not two.
There are some good deals going on the 6600 in the UK, but only if you are
signing a one-year contract. Expect to pay about ?150 to have it on a
'pay-as-you-smile' card and then maybe ?20 for unlocking it to any network.
You can find some on e-bay, but it is up to you if you want to take your
chances there or not. Plenty of e-bay sellers are honest and do good deals -
but not all of them. Check out the feedback.
The cameras built in to the 7650 and 6600 work in 'VGA' resolution - 640 x
480 pixels. Okay and convenient for quick snaps which will print out at
postcard size, but not as good as a so-many-megapixel digital camera. Once
again, convenient to have all in one device if you travel a lot - and the
memory card on the 6600 allows you to store plenty of pictures.
I'm happy with mine, but still use a 6mp digital camera for 'proper photos'
and a handwritten dieary for keeping my life organised.
Kevin.

Aron (Pickles) Y.B. Ben-Zev <me@picklesgeek.net> wrote:

| Hi,
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| All the best,
| Pickles.

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