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Hafaka - 27 May 2004 03:44 GMT
Which provider has the best reception in the bay area (California)?
Cingular? Verizon? AT&T? T-Mobile? Someone else?
Thanks...
Richie - 27 May 2004 16:38 GMT
Reception wise, it really depends where you live and work.  The best bet
would be to ask your friends and colleagues for a recommendation.

Cost wise, Cingular and T-Mobile have the best prices plans.

> Which provider has the best reception in the bay area (California)?
> Cingular? Verizon? AT&T? T-Mobile? Someone else?
> Thanks...
think4yourself - 27 May 2004 22:58 GMT
> Which provider has the best reception in the bay area (California)?
> Cingular? Verizon? AT&T? T-Mobile? Someone else?
> Thanks...

I've been in the bay area for 4 years now (San Jose) and verizon seems
to have the best service. Unfortunately they are also the most
expensive and have the worst selection of phones. The worst service is
Cingular; I have a lot of friends that signed up with them because
they have the best prices, but not one of them renewed their contracts
due to bad reception. I am with Verizon and have never missed a call
due to no reception and I get dropped calls maybe once every two
months.

-Mike
Richie - 28 May 2004 02:59 GMT
To be fair to Cingular, their service has much improved in the Bay Area.
Really, 6 months is an eternity in the technology business and things can
get better to worse and vice versa very quickly.

Cingular does have good prices with Rollover minutes -- that means you can
save your unused minutes for future use.  That's a good deal that allows you
to maximize your price plan.

If you sign with AT&T in the Bay Area you'll have access to both the AT&T
and Cingular network.  By year's end AT&T and Cingular will be one network.

AT&T has a new promotional campaign that asks "how many bars have you got?"
They signed major roaming agreements that should provide much better
coverage to their customers.

T-mobile has great plans if you need to talk 1500 minutes and up.  They also
have a California and Nevada plan at $49.99 for 3000 minutes (outgoing calls
limited to CA and NV).  T-Mobile also a good unlimited Internet Plan at
$19.99.

Sprint has pretty good deal also.  Some of my friend use Sprint and report
good coverage in the Bay Area.

My personal feeling is that Verizon is too expensive and they don't deserve
the premium.

> > Which provider has the best reception in the bay area (California)?
> > Cingular? Verizon? AT&T? T-Mobile? Someone else?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> -Mike
CharlesH - 28 May 2004 03:17 GMT
>If you sign with AT&T in the Bay Area you'll have access to both the AT&T
>and Cingular network.  By year's end AT&T and Cingular will be one network.

I read in the newspaper that Cingular and T-Mobile are terminating their
agreement in California/Nevada. T-Mobile has been using Cingular's towers
in these two states, and as part of severing the agreement, Cingular
will be giving their infrastructure in these two states to T-Mobile. So
Cingular-AT&T will just end up with the current AT&T infrastructure in
these two states.
Richie - 28 May 2004 07:07 GMT
Cingular is selling some infrastructure to T-Mobile but the extend to what
they are selling is unspecified.  Cingular + AT&T should have better
coverage than currently.    I suspect Cingular will sell infrastructure
where they have overlap with current  AT&T network.

> >If you sign with AT&T in the Bay Area you'll have access to both the AT&T
> >and Cingular network.  By year's end AT&T and Cingular will be one network.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Cingular-AT&T will just end up with the current AT&T infrastructure in
> these two states.
John S. - 28 May 2004 13:40 GMT
>Cingular is selling some infrastructure to T-Mobile but the extend to what
>they are selling is unspecified.

No, it was specified, spectrum and infastructure (all of the towers and
switches and cables and nuts and bolts). In addition T-Mobile is also getting
10MHz more spectrum although at the moment I have forgotten where.

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John S.
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John S. - 28 May 2004 13:39 GMT
>So
>Cingular-AT&T will just end up with the current AT&T infrastructure in
>these two states.

And it is plenty of infastructure to be sure.

It might also be a plan to help avoid regulatory issues to get the sale to go
through.

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John S.
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think4yourself - 28 May 2004 18:07 GMT
> To be fair to Cingular, their service has much improved in the Bay Area.
> Really, 6 months is an eternity in the technology business and things can
> get better to worse and vice versa very quickly.

A relative of my GF just returned all of her equipment to Cingular
(5 person family share plan) after having it for two days and cancelled
her contract... No signal in their house and "...most of my time on
the phone was spent redialing" (her words). Their problem is lack of
towers for coverage.

> Cingular does have good prices with Rollover minutes -- that means you can
> save your unused minutes for future use.  That's a good deal that allows you
> to maximize your price plan.

No doubt... Cingular has the BEST plans going along with a pretty
nice selection of phones. Reception sucks though. It doesn't matter
how great the plan is; if you are paying to talk and not able to
then it is not a bargin.


> My personal feeling is that Verizon is too expensive and they don't deserve
> the premium.

Personal call... I pay to talk and Verizon has been the best so far.
In outlaying areas many times myself and the other Verizon customers
are the only ones who have signals. I also go up and down 101 and 5
to the LA area fairly often and I get signal almost the whole time
(there are some small parts of 5 that I get no service). Like I said,
I pay to talk and if I can't then it doesn't matter how cheap my
plan is. I would rather pay more and talk when I want. As you
mentioned, Cingular may get better IF the merger with AT&T goes
through. It may raise prices though.

Cingular's Acquisition of AT&T Wireless Could Cost Consumers $5 Billion a Year
http://www.axcessnews.com/technology_052604.shtml

-Mike
David L - 28 May 2004 08:25 GMT
> Which provider has the best reception in the bay area (California)?
> Cingular? Verizon? AT&T? T-Mobile? Someone else?
> Thanks...

I like Verizon's rural and suburb coverage and the ability to roam on
Sprint.
ATT or Sprint may be worth a look.
ATTWS network is in flux, since the purchase by Cingular. Their old
(Cell One) analog/TDMA network was extensive, but is being converted
to GSM. Word is...get an 850mhz capable GSM phone, if one is going to
get ATT GSM. The combined ATTWS and Cingular (GSM) network looks
promising, but there is no analog fallback for rural/mountain
coverage.

Not sure if ATT or Cingular is activating GAIT (GSM/TDMA) phones, here
in Califonia. I'm uncertain how GAIT and 850mhz GSM phone coverage
will play out in CA?

Analog coverage is also useful for some areas in the hills and parks,
just outside Bay Area metro coverage. It's surprising, how much
coverage area a good analog phone adds in the hills (often valleys).
Most car bound users would never notice, since Verizon has widespread
digital coverage.

Links....

Bay Area Cell Info

http://www.sfbacell.com/

Cell Phone Information - Pacific
Northwest

http://cell.uoregon.edu/

Mountain Wireless Review-California

http://www.mountainwireless.com/cellcal.shtml

-
David
 
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