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Cellular Phone Forum / General / General Topics / September 2004a trivial matter: cells and watches
... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the watch industry?? > ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a > watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the > time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the > watch industry?? I'm pretty sure that Rolex ain't worried by the clocks in cell-phones. It's much more convinient to took at a wristwatch than rummaging thru your pockets to find your cell-phone. So how do you know what time it is in places where you must turn your cell-phone off ?  SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@grfpb.arg >> ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a >> watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > at Wal-Mart for $7 because thats all I need. I no longer spend $70+ for a > watch. Just wondering if its just me or am I part of a bigger trend. >So how do you know what time it is in places where you must turn your >cell-phone off ? Other than a hos[ital (clocks on the walls there) & and airplane, where do you have to turn it off? -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>So how do you know what time it is in places where you must turn your >>cell-phone off ? > >Other than a hos[ital (clocks on the walls there) & and airplane, where do you >have to turn it off? movie theatres, courtrooms?, corporate meetings?, etc..... >>>So how do you know what time it is in places where you must turn your >>>cell-phone off ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > movie theatres, courtrooms?, corporate meetings?, etc..... and funerals, weddings, concerts. Plus I have seen people being interviewed for job and they are wearing their cellphone headsets with their cells turned on. Would you hire someone who cannot stay off the phone??? > ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a > watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the > time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the > watch industry?? My 1100 has a torch so I no longer have carry one of those as well.... > ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a > watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the > time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the > watch industry?? In the future a watch will be your cellphone which you will wear round your wrist. Regards UkJay >> ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a >> watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > In the future a watch will be your cellphone > which you will wear round your wrist. ... like Dick Tracy's original wrist radio which later on became a two-way TV. > >> ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a > >> watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ... like Dick Tracy's original wrist radio which later on became a two-way > TV. I was thinking more like Startrek Dud, but on the wrist. added features like medical functions as well as TV, phone etc. BUT IT'S JUST THEM 2 BLOODY CAR BATTERIES THAT CAUSE THE PROBLEM! :-) UkJay > Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the >watch industry?? I am not sure that the watch industry is trembleing in it's boots. I too do not wear a watch, pager's and now cell phones take the place of the watch quite nicely. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net > ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a > watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the > time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the > watch industry?? Yep, I dumped my watch years ago for my phone. I reckon lot's of people have done it. A watch is merely a piece of jewellery now days, where a phone is more functional with most having many more features built into them now. Like someone said some even have torches now! Plus of course cameras, etc. etc. 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. >... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a >watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the >time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the >watch industry?? The problem with the cell phone clocks (at least for me) is that my sight ain't what it used to be so I can barely if at all see the clock's time on my phone without dragging out my reading glasses. Since cheap watches can be had for under $10 now there's no big thing about wearing one. The reason I'm not wearing a watch right now is that I find that some of the straps on wristwatches are downright annoying. The plastic band on my Casio or the velcro strap on my Target special in particular. I ended up cutting off the strap to the Target watch and just keeping it in my pocket. Perhaps the phones that have as the screen saver the current time it might be better. Then again I've noticed too that those with CDMA carriers (Sprint PCS, Verizon etc.) usually have a big clock in the middle of their idle screen. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > The problem with the cell phone clocks (at least for me) is that my > sight ain't what it used to be so I can barely if at all see the > clock's time on my phone without dragging out my reading glasses. The numbers on my V710's outside display are about 1/4 inch high and I can see the time even without my glasses on (with 20/400 vision, uncorrected). SignatureGod Bless America! Bob the Printer Our web pages are located at: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bdolson/ >> The problem with the cell phone clocks (at least for me) is that my >> sight ain't what it used to be so I can barely if at all see the >> clock's time on my phone without dragging out my reading glasses. > >The numbers on my V710's outside display are about 1/4 inch high and I can >see the time even without my glasses on (with 20/400 vision, uncorrected). Since you didn't mention it can one also assume that's with a CDMA carrier such as Sprint PCS or Verizon? If so the clock is part of the spec so it's easy for a manufacturer to make a big clock in the idle mode. And I'm not sure why you cross-posted this to alt.cellular.nokia. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I posted it on alt.cellular.motorola... I do not even belong to the alt.cellular.nokia group, do I have any interest in nokia phones. > >> The problem with the cell phone clocks (at least for me) is that my > >> sight ain't what it used to be so I can barely if at all see the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > alt.cellular.nokia. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >I posted it on alt.cellular.motorola... I do not even belong to the >alt.cellular.nokia group, do I have any interest in nokia phones. Well, if you didn't want it to go to the alt.cellular.nokia group why didn't you take it out of the groups you cross-posted it to? It's still in there. If you didn't want it to go to the nokia group why didn't you take it out???? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Look a.shole, I didn't cross post it anywhere! This is the Motorola group and the only manufacturers group that I belong to and I have no idea how it would get cross posted to any other group! > >I posted it on alt.cellular.motorola... I do not even belong to the > >alt.cellular.nokia group, do I have any interest in nokia phones. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > didn't you take it out???? > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Look a.shole, I didn't cross post it anywhere! This is the Motorola group >and the only manufacturers group that I belong to and I have no idea how it >would get cross posted to any other group! Listen jackass you *did* cross-post it to alt.cellular.nokia as well as other groups. You need to learn what a cross-post is and how to remove groups in the cross-post. It's not my fault that no one showed you how a news reader works. It's as you said "I have no idea how it would get cross posted to any other group." Your message is cross-posted to alt.cellular.telephones, alt.cellular, alt.cellular.nokia and alt.cellular.motorola Before you shoot your mouth of you should learn how to use your software. Your ignorance does not make you look any smarter. Before you snap back at me you should look. You're wrong you just cannot admit that you don't know how to use a news reader. That's not my fault. >> >I posted it on alt.cellular.motorola... I do not even belong to the >> >alt.cellular.nokia group, do I have any interest in nokia phones. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> didn't you take it out???? >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I use Outlook Express to read newsgroups and I see nothing pertaining to 'cross posting' in it's settings.. And no, I'm not going to switch to another news reader. If it cross posts, that's not my doing and so be it! SignatureGod Bless America! Bob the Printer Our web pages are located at: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bdolson/ >I use Outlook Express to read newsgroups and I see nothing pertaining to >'cross posting' in it's settings.. > >And no, I'm not going to switch to another news reader. If it cross posts, >that's not my doing and so be it! You're an idiot. Just because you "don't see it" doesn't mean it's not there or that you're not doing it. It *is* your doing. You just do not know how to use your software. Rather than admit you are wrong you'd rather blame me for your stupidity. When you reply to a group the groups that it's posted to should be plainly apparent to you. Just because you do things blindly is no excuse. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > I use Outlook Express to read newsgroups and I see nothing pertaining to > 'cross posting' in it's settings.. If you post to more than one newsgroup with a single post, you're crossposting. It has NOTHING to do with your settings, and switching from Outlook Express will change nothing. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. >> I use Outlook Express to read newsgroups and I see nothing pertaining to >> 'cross posting' in it's settings.. > > If you post to more than one newsgroup with a single post, you're > crossposting. It has NOTHING to do with your settings, and switching from > Outlook Express will change nothing. ... before this turns into a allout flamewar I created the original post and I am the idiot/a.shole/jackass who cross-posted it. Now do you all feel better???? > ... before this turns into a allout flamewar I created the original post and > I am the idiot/a.shole/jackass who cross-posted it. Now do you all feel > better???? At least you had the balls to admit it... do you fancy teaching the other guy how to use a real newsreader now :-} SignaturePlease add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it ;-) --- >> ... before this turns into a allout flamewar I created the original post >> and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > At least you had the balls to admit it... do you fancy teaching the other > guy how to use a real newsreader now :-} ... hell I'm using Outhouse Distress no sorry my mistake its Outlook Express so what do I know about a real newsreader? >> ... before this turns into a allout flamewar I created the original post and >> I am the idiot/a.shole/jackass who cross-posted it. Now do you all feel >> better???? > >At least you had the balls to admit it... do you fancy teaching the other >guy how to use a real newsreader now :-} What's so bad about crossposting anyway? SignatureChris Pollard CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines http://www.cginternet.net >What's so bad about crossposting anyway? Some of us who read virtually ALL the alt.cellular news groups HATE to wade through the same message/thread in multiple news groups. It is discourteous! -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>What's so bad about crossposting anyway? > >Some of us who read virtually ALL the alt.cellular news groups HATE to wade >through the same message/thread in multiple news groups. > >It is discourteous! I thought that decent NNTP clients (newsreaders) would eliminate the duplicates, using the unique message ids each message has. Mine (ancient text-mode trn) does. Of course, certain newsreaders which define threads by the subject and not the message ids in the "References" NNTP header probably don't deal with the cross-posting right either. BTW, the message ids I am referring to are long strings generated by the posting server, not the message numbers which depend on the server one reads their messages from. Usually, the message ids aren't displayed unless you tell your reader to display them. > I thought that decent NNTP clients (newsreaders) would eliminate > the duplicates, using the unique message ids each message has. Most do. I find it quite irritating that mine (the latest version of Mozilla Thunderbird) doesn't. I have to file a bug report. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. > > I thought that decent NNTP clients (newsreaders) would eliminate > > the duplicates, using the unique message ids each message has. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) > Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. Uh Steve.. you DON'T have the latest version of Thunderbird. They're up to version 0.8 now. It's a stable release too. Your UA says Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) > Uh Steve.. you DON'T have the latest version of Thunderbird. > > They're up to version 0.8 now. It's a stable release too. > Your UA says Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) They must have just released it, then. I'll go upgrade and see if I still have the same problem. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. > > Uh Steve.. you DON'T have the latest version of Thunderbird. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > They must have just released it, then. I'll go upgrade and see if I still have > the same problem. No actually it has been out for a short while. But then again Unless you frequent the Mozilla groups and/or forums, you probably wouldn't know that. 8-) >>>Uh Steve.. you DON'T have the latest version of Thunderbird. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > No actually it has been out for a short while. A *very* short while; it's only been about six weeks since 0.7.3 was released! *thwap* SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. > >>>Uh Steve.. you DON'T have the latest version of Thunderbird. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) > Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. Yeah, it's been something like a week. 8-) > What's so bad about crossposting anyway? Nothing, as long as it's done to groups that are relevant to what's being posted. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. >> What's so bad about crossposting anyway? > >Nothing, as long as it's done to groups that are relevant to what's being posted. Thought so. I was just wondering what all the fuss was about... SignatureChris Pollard CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines http://www.cginternet.net On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:49:37 +0100, Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote some stuff about "Re: a trivial matter: cells and watches", to which I would like to add the following: >> ... before this turns into a allout flamewar I created the original post and >> I am the idiot/a.shole/jackass who cross-posted it. Now do you all feel >> better???? > >At least you had the balls to admit it... do you fancy teaching the other >guy how to use a real newsreader now :-} I'm using Agent, and it asked me if I wanted to post to all groups, and I'm saying ***YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!*** because it's RELEVANT to all these groups, and yes I did check the list!! They're all groups about cellular phones that presumably have clocks in them! :-) Cheers, Chanchao > ... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need > for a watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just > about all the time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does > not bode well for the watch industry?? I haven't given up my watch yet. Reasons: - Not all mobile phones have a clock function anyway. Some of my older ones don't. - I might not have the phone with me all the time, for example at work I might forget it on my desk while going to another room. - I've been wearing a wrist watch since I was a child, and I'm so used to the feeling on my wrist that I feel "naked" when it's not there. When wrist-worn mobile phones come around, with PDA, organizer, calculator, web & email, television (broadcast, not streaming), radio, MP3 player, still & video cam, and of course a clock built in, I might change my habits. I can't wait until that happens, but we aren't _quite_ there yet. Regards Signatureder die das, wieso weshalb warum the the the, why why why http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de Another reason not to depend solely on cell phones for time would apply when near the boundary between time zones where you can receive signals from towers on both sides. Seems to me you could run the risk of the cell phone time flitting back and forth between two different times, depending on the tower with which it is communicating at any given moment. > I haven't given up my watch yet. Reasons: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > - I've been wearing a wrist watch since I was a child, and I'm so used to > the feeling on my wrist that I feel "naked" when it's not there. On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:22:15 +0200, Wolfgang Schwanke <see@sig.nature> wrote some stuff about "Re: a trivial matter: cells and watches", to which I would like to add the following: >I haven't given up my watch yet. Reasons: > >- Not all mobile phones have a clock function anyway. Some of my older >ones don't. >- I might not have the phone with me all the time, for example at work I >might forget it on my desk while going to another room. Well... For me anyway forgetting a mobile phone on a desk would be a much bigger issue than forgetting my watch.. Who cares if you forget your watch, there's clocks all over the place. (First person to bring up public phones in a smart comment should consider him/herself kicked in the behind. :-)) >- I've been wearing a wrist watch since I was a child, and I'm so used to >the feeling on my wrist that I feel "naked" when it's not there. Yes, and 'liberated' once you get used to it... (Hm, sounds like a comment in a support group for nude recreation.. ;-)) >When wrist-worn mobile phones come around, with PDA, organizer, >calculator, web & email, television (broadcast, not streaming), All TV will be streaming one day. >radio, MP3 player, still & video cam, and of course a clock built in, I might >change my habits. I can't wait until that happens, but we aren't _quite_ >there yet. Well, the screen may (need to) be too big to comfortably wear on your wrist. So it needs something fancy for screen (foldable, projection, etc.) more than anything else. Cheers, Chanchao >>When wrist-worn mobile phones come around, with PDA, organizer, >>calculator, web & email, television (broadcast, not streaming), > > All TV will be streaming one day. I hope not! I can't see it happening too. It's going digital, over the air, on cable and satellite, which is fine. But not net-based, not exclusively anyway. Regards SignatureDer Fischermann fängt Schalenfische in seinem Netzwerk. http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de > >>When wrist-worn mobile phones come around, with PDA, organizer, > >>calculator, web & email, television (broadcast, not streaming), [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de The motivation will be GREED UkJay On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:24:13 GMT, "Dudhorse" <nondigital@worldnet.att.net> wrote some stuff about "a trivial matter: cells and watches", to which I would like to add the following: >... since I have gotten my cellphone I wear my watch less - no need for a >watch as long as I have my trusty cell with me which is just about all the >time. Am I alone in this or is this a trend that does not bode well for the >watch industry?? Yes, I stopped wearing a wristwatch. Kind of funny really, as before WWII most men wore a pocket watch.. wristband-watches were for ladies. So back to the old days I say. Now where's me pipe.. :) Cheers, Chanchao |
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