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> Don't get me started about Florida :)
You have to wonder about the sanity of people who want to live in a state
where the weather tries to kill you 3 or 4 times a year :-)
Mind you Florida beaches are so nice, you can forgive the odd hurricane
Steve Terry
Steve Sobol - 09 Oct 2004 04:06 GMT
>>Don't get me started about Florida :)
>
> You have to wonder about the sanity of people who want to live in a state
> where the weather tries to kill you 3 or 4 times a year :-)
>
> Mind you Florida beaches are so nice, you can forgive the odd hurricane
I'm a two hour drive away from the other ocean. Huntington Beach is beautiful,
we have surf (the Atlantic doesn't), and there aren't any hurricanes here.
Florida has Disney and Universal Studios. Big deal; so do we, plus we have Six
Flags. And Knotts.
Florida, unlike California, doesn't have winning baseball teams.
Should I go on? :)

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Ivor Jones - 09 Oct 2004 20:41 GMT
>>>Don't get me started about Florida :)
>>
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> beautiful, we have surf (the Atlantic doesn't), and there aren't any
> hurricanes here.
Couldn't agree more, I spent a beautiful few days driving up from San
Diego to San Francisco a few weeks ago :-)
How about some mobile base stations around the Big Sur area though..? ;-)
Ivor
>> Andy M - Tampa Bay wrote:
>>
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>> enough, lots of news outlets nationwide picked up the story too. I'm
>> sorry, is that not a major enough news item for you? :)
wildfires, that's one thing i feel sympathy for californians. drove thru one
in san bernardino natl forest (behind hemet, temecula, etc). and one small
one on 91 (anaheim hills) between lakewood exit and corona. but i've noticed
california's media (OC register, LA dailies) give a lot more coverage to
wildfires than news papers in west central florida (tampa tribune, st pete
times). there's more obsession with natural disasters in CA than in FL, IMO.
>> Usually they don't get that much coverage. Due to the fact that
>> Southern California is almost all desert and most of it is quite dry
>> and hot about 7-8 months out of each year, the entire area tends to
>> be a tinderbox.
>>
>> I agree with you that all of the Peterson coverage is useless.
>>> ahh, glorious friday morning in florida, just the thing to help me
>>> vent my feelings about lawyers (liars).
>>
>> Don't get me started about Florida :)
don't get me started too, esp with the prezzie elections coming up. we
having enough as it is with dubya's brother jeb and katherine harris
(miss-you-know-who did the whole 2000 scam).
only one thing i'm thankful to california for: i missed all 4 hurricanes
that hit home. but then did get some house damage.
hey, isn't apple valley on the way from LA to bakersfield?
>> **SJS (southern Californian, imported from Ohio)
>>
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>> Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three
>> kids.
Steve Sobol - 09 Oct 2004 04:13 GMT
> wildfires, that's one thing i feel sympathy for californians. drove thru one
> in san bernardino natl forest (behind hemet, temecula, etc).
Yes, I know where it is - coming from the closest major airport, you drive
through it to get to my house. :) Were you driving north up Interstate 15?
> and one small
> one on 91 (anaheim hills) between lakewood exit and corona. but i've noticed
> california's media (OC register, LA dailies) give a lot more coverage to
> wildfires than news papers in west central florida (tampa tribune, st pete
> times).
Well, duh. :) Of course they do.
> there's more obsession with natural disasters in CA than in FL, IMO.
Or it could just be that they happen more often. There are wildfires every year.
> don't get me started too, esp with the prezzie elections coming up. we
> having enough as it is with dubya's brother jeb and katherine harris
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>
> hey, isn't apple valley on the way from LA to bakersfield?
It depends on which way you drive. Come east on I-10 out of Los Angeles out
past the Ontario International Airport, and make a left turn onto northbound
I-15. Drive about a half-hour north through the Cajon Pass and the
aforementioned San Bernardino National Forest and bingo, you're in Apple
Valley. It's on the way to Barstow and Las Vegas. You can turn west at Barstow
and get there - Highway 58 runs between Barstow and Bakersfield.
If there's no traffic (and believe it or not, there ARE periods of extremely
light traffic on Los Angeles freeways) it'll take you about 90-95 minutes to
get to Apple Valley from LA. There are a number of ways to get there besides
the one mentioned above.
The other way to get there is to take I-5 north to Highway 99. Highway 99 will
take you directly into Bakersfield.

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