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Where are the unlimited plans?

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John - 29 Aug 2003 02:49 GMT
I go to AT&T, Verizon, and SprintPCS web sites and I can't find any
unlimited plans.

I need an unlimited voice (and data?) plan?

If I hook the phone to my computer use it as a "modem" is that a data
call or a voice call?

Thanks,
John
Steven J Sobol - 29 Aug 2003 03:03 GMT
> I go to AT&T, Verizon, and SprintPCS web sites and I can't find any
> unlimited plans.
>
> I need an unlimited voice (and data?) plan?

Alltel is the only major provider that offers an unlimited plan and
only in some markets. Actually, in some markets they offer an unlimited
prepay plan and in some markets, like Cleveland, they offer an unlimited
postpay plan (you still pay for Long Distance, and if you roam you don't
get unlimited airtime, you pay minutes+roaming, plus LD where applicable,
just like a regular plan.)

> If I hook the phone to my computer use it as a "modem" is that a data
> call or a voice call?

Data...

I don't know of ANYONE that has an unlimited data plan. The providers
(Cricket, MetroPCS and Northcoast) that offer unlimited prepaid service
probably do not offer data at all.

> Thanks,
> John

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Mike - 29 Aug 2003 03:59 GMT
>Alltel is the only major provider that offers an unlimited plan and
>only in some markets. Actually, in some markets they offer an unlimited
>prepay plan and in some markets, like Cleveland, they offer an unlimited
>postpay plan (you still pay for Long Distance, and if you roam you don't
>get unlimited airtime, you pay minutes+roaming, plus LD where applicable,
>just like a regular plan.)

After he ran up a $380 bill one month on his Alltel phone, I directed
my father to the unlimited plan.  It's currently $69/mo. and has the
caveats you describe above.

But... my father never leaves the Akron area, and 99% of his calls are
within NE Ohio, so it works for him, and his cell bill won't budget
above $69/mo. plus tax.

Mike
Steven J Sobol - 29 Aug 2003 05:52 GMT

> After he ran up a $380 bill one month on his Alltel phone, I directed
> my father to the unlimited plan.  It's currently $69/mo. and has the
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> within NE Ohio, so it works for him, and his cell bill won't budget
> above $69/mo. plus tax.

Besides still doing some of my own stuff, I work for someone out on
the West Side who has the same plan. He talks 3000 minutes a month,
so it's worth the savings.

He uses his wife's phone, which I believe is on the National Freedom
package, when traveling.

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Mike - 29 Aug 2003 18:48 GMT
>Besides still doing some of my own stuff, I work for someone out on
>the West Side who has the same plan. He talks 3000 minutes a month,
>so it's worth the savings.
>
>He uses his wife's phone, which I believe is on the National Freedom
>package, when traveling.

I get the idea that Alltel doesn't promote this plan heavily, if at
all, and it only exists to keep folks from bolting to Northcoast PCS
(and other flat-rate carriers like Cricket or Metro in other markets).

My father once had 5000 minutes in a month...and not many of them were
in the original plan's night/weekend unlimited window.  

Mike
Steven J Sobol - 29 Aug 2003 19:15 GMT

>>He uses his wife's phone, which I believe is on the National Freedom
>>package, when traveling.
>
> I get the idea that Alltel doesn't promote this plan heavily, if at
> all, and it only exists to keep folks from bolting to Northcoast PCS
> (and other flat-rate carriers like Cricket or Metro in other markets).

Probably. Verizon and Alltel both originally ran the packages as
promotions, well before Northcoast launched in '01. Verizon ended theirs.
Alltel ended theirs, and then restarted it later.

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XFF - 29 Aug 2003 17:43 GMT
> Data...
>
> I don't know of ANYONE that has an unlimited data plan.

Verizon Wireless offers unlimited Express Network (high-speed data)
for $79.99/month.
Steven J Sobol - 29 Aug 2003 18:28 GMT
>> Data...
>>
>> I don't know of ANYONE that has an unlimited data plan.
>
> Verizon Wireless offers unlimited Express Network (high-speed data)
> for $79.99/month.

I misspoke. Of course, you're absolutely right.

What I should have said is "an unlimited voice and data plan" -
I don't believe that that EN plan includes unlimited voice minutes, but
the EN plan I have isn't that one, and I could be wrong.

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Ben Skversky - 30 Aug 2003 01:54 GMT
Nextel has an unlimited plan for $199.99\monthly.

> > I go to AT&T, Verizon, and SprintPCS web sites and I can't find any
> > unlimited plans.
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> > Thanks,
> > John
Paul Kim - 29 Aug 2003 05:32 GMT
> I go to AT&T, Verizon, and SprintPCS web sites and I can't find any
> unlimited plans.
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> If I hook the phone to my computer use it as a "modem" is that a data
> call or a voice call?

Sprint PCS apparently has an (unadvertised, or not well known) $150 plan
that includes unlimited wireless and landline. I don't have it, and I
haven't heard it mentioned in a while though. Doesn't hurt to call and ask.

Nextel has unlimited voice for $200/month. Too expensive, IMO.

I've also seen AT&T GSM Charter Unlimited plan being auctioned on ebay.

Sprint PCS, Nextel, T-Mobile all have unlimited data for a flat fee (usually
$10-$20/month).

As for the "modem" question, that depends. For instance, if you have an
older 2G plan on Sprint, you can make a painfully slow data connection that
uses voice minutes (for $5/month), or a 1xRTT connection with their Vision
phones, which is probably the fastest connection you'll see today in
wideband wireless, but it's against their Terms of Service (as long as you
don't use it much, like hundreds of megs a month, so far they let you do
this). T-Mobile has an unlimited data plan that allows you to tether your
phone to your computer for $20/month using GPRS, which isn't as fast as
1xRTT. They also allow you to connect using CSD, which uses your
minutes...again, painfully slow.
Matt - 29 Aug 2003 16:22 GMT
Nextel does... free incoming calls too i think (dont quote me on that).
very expensive, has decent coverage and includes data with it i think.  just
check out nextel's website.  as far as i know,, phones for modem is data,
because its the same as going online on a WAP browser on the phone itself
(you are just connecting it to a computer instead).

hope this helps you at least a little.

> I go to AT&T, Verizon, and SprintPCS web sites and I can't find any
> unlimited plans.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks,
> John
Group Special Mobile - 29 Aug 2003 20:29 GMT
>Nextel does... free incoming calls too i think (dont quote me on that).
>very expensive, has decent coverage and includes data with it i think.  just
>check out nextel's website.  as far as i know,, phones for modem is data,
>because its the same as going online on a WAP browser on the phone itself
>(you are just connecting it to a computer instead).

Nextel no longer has unlimited incoming.

Qwest Wireless does though.

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John - 30 Aug 2003 21:01 GMT
> Nextel does... free incoming calls too i think (dont quote me on that).
> very expensive, has decent coverage and includes data with it i think.  just
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> hope this helps you at least a little.

Yes. It does. Thank you.

I am familiar with the Nextel plan and I *assumed* that the other
carriers would offer competing plans. I suppose I can go with Nextel,
but the $199 a month is a little steep.

The plan is to use this as my only business phone.

I was hoping there was a way to get an "always on" type connection
with a cell phone so that I'd always be signed in to instant messenger
when my phone was connected to my iPAQ. I don't think this is possible
without dialing in each time I connect the iPAQ.

Oh well... I'll keep hunting. I'm going to check out Alltel.

John
 
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