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Cellular Phone Forum / General / General Topics / December 2004Sprint Nextel merger is a bad thing for Nextel Staff
It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in regard to the merger. They are trying to make this look like a 50-50 merger, but anyone familiar with business knows that this is just smoke and mirrors, and that Sprint is really just buying Nextel's customers and bandwidth. The real loser will be the Nextel employees. Nextel is an outstanding corporation, which has often ranked high on the "best companies to work for" surveys. Sprint has always been in chaos, and will lay off thousands without a moment's notice. Perhaps this is why they are third in the industry. Hopefully better companies like Cingular and Verizon will begin hiring soon so that the Nextel employees that Sprint WILL lay off will be able to find employment. It's really sad to see a good company be acquired by a bad one. Gerald >It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in >regard to the merger. You need to fix your mailer. You've sent out everything twice and three times. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - both suck. when my brother had nextel they kept billing him wrong. and he kept getting spam text messages and they charged him for them. when he asked for text messages to be turned off they told him that they would have to turn off his voice mail. what crap > >It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in > >regard to the merger. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - well, I dont understand this merger because of the infra structure differences. I wonder if Sprint has decided to go GSM? chip >>It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in >>regard to the merger. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >well, I dont understand this merger because of the infra structure >differences. It didn't hurt Telus in Canada to be running CDMA PCS and iDen. Why should it hurt Sprint PCS? >I wonder if Sprint has decided to go GSM? I wonder if you'll decide to get a clue? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >I wonder if Sprint has decided to go GSM? Why would you think that they would go to a lesser quality technology. No, they are comitted to move forward in teh CDMA ifastructure moving on to WCDMA - in fact all of the carriers are moving to WCDMA (ie: CDMA) technology. AWAY from GSM...... -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >well, I dont understand this merger because of the infra structure >differences. > >I wonder if Sprint has decided to go GSM? Nextel has reportedly decided to go CDMA2000 to replace its badly aging iDEN technology.  SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular That is unless Nextel employees want to move to India. Sprint has a large chunk of its customer service there. > It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in > regard to the merger. They are trying to make this look like a 50-50 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Gerald >That is unless Nextel employees want to move to India. Sprint has a large >chunk of its customer service there. AIUI, Nextel has little in the way of call centers as it is; either all or a rather large portion of Nextel (Communications -- dunno about Partners) CS is outsourced (note I didn't say "offshored"), and a lot of Nextel's CS calls are answered in Canada. AFAIK, SPCS and Nextel are the only two major carriers to outsource CS in any sigificant way; T-Mobile and VZW provide CS almost exclusively through company-owned, domestic call centers (they may use outsource centers for overflow during busy times), and I believe that Cingular does as well, except for "AT&T Wireless"/"Cingular Blue" prepaid CS, which got offshored about a year ago. Guess which two carriers generally gets highest marks for CS -- yup, TMO and VZW. Hmm... -SC SignatureStanley Cline // Telco Boi // sc1 at roamer1 dot org // www.roamer1.org "it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend SO does DELL PC Sprint is one of the worst place to be a CS Rep > That is unless Nextel employees want to move to India. Sprint has a large > chunk of its customer service there. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > Gerald In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Fester <raven_wood@homedot.com> wrote: > SO does DELL PC Sprint is one of the worst place to be a CS Rep DELL gave up on that venture long ago. They found the quality lacking ... reportedly. SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 Spammers please contact me at renegade@veldy.net. > In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Fester <raven_wood@homedot.com> wrote: > > SO does DELL PC Sprint is one of the worst place to be a CS Rep > > DELL gave up on that venture long ago. They found the quality lacking > ... reportedly. DELL outsources extensively. They only brought some of it back for the high profile customers who complained and then spinned it to make it sound like all support was here. Yes.. Sprint is also a big fan of outsourcing. > That is unless Nextel employees want to move to India. Sprint has a large > chunk of its customer service there. I've heard this said before, but can't confirm it. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. > > That is unless Nextel employees want to move to India. Sprint has a large > > chunk of its customer service there. > > I've heard this said before, but can't confirm it. Then you must be unique. It's over a year old story: <http://news.com.com/Sprint+crafts+overseas+outsourcing+plan/2100-1033_3- 5061630.html?tag=bplst> Call for support and see if you're talking to Pradeep. Sprint has its WLNP help in the Phillipines. >>I've heard this said before, but can't confirm it. > > Then you must be unique. It's over a year old story: Unique? I've been called worse. Thank you for the link. I don't recall seeing this; obviously I wasn't looking closely enough. > <http://news.com.com/Sprint+crafts+overseas+outsourcing+plan/2100-1033_3- > 5061630.html?tag=bplst> > > Call for support and see if you're talking to Pradeep. > > Sprint has its WLNP help in the Phillipines. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. In article <jzwick3-20A13E.08102313122004 @news1.west.earthlink.net>, Jack Zwickjzwick3 @mindspring.com says... > Sprint has its WLNP help in the Phillipines. Not entirely true. Sprint has WLNP support in multiple locations, including within the USA. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- **A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice.** -Thomas Paine. The Rights of Man. 1792- > It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in > regard to the merger. They are trying to make this look like a 50-50 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Gerald You have posted this crap in MANY places Gerald. First off, if your in retail sales for one of these companies, YOUR A LOSER, or your lazy. Go get an education, secure a REAL career(job) and make some real money. You seem young, your going to find out too late that these companies WILL NOT take care of you in the long run. Get smart real fast, time is passing you by. The longer you stay in a deadend job the more you will suffer later. You won't have a retirement, you won't have a 401K to fall back on.You won't get any SSI until your 67 years of age (like that will be available then).They will discard you like a pizza box later in life. Take this as a roadsign in life and change your route, get smart, get going be successful. Nows your chance to say goodbye to Sprint/Nextel and get a real career.They are forcing your hand, make a SMART choice. Start out 2005 by making something goood out of your life, Working as a Rep for a company that doesnt give a sh.t about you is waiting for your personal trainwreck to occur. AND STOP POSTING THIS SOUR-GRAPES CRAP. We don't feel sorry for you at all, you made this choice, either live with it or do something about it. Bitching won't do the trick. >YOUR A LOSER, or your lazy. >Go get an education, You mean like an education that teaches you the difference between your and you're? :) Pot/kettle/beige as they say. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If it's regarding customer service people they are disposable to cellular companies. My 15 years of using a cellular service I haven't once talked to a competent customer service rep who knew what they were selling and supporting. Who cares...they'll just be hired by Verizon or Cingular and continue to answer questions wrong and make it terribly hard for customers to get any satisfaction. That's just the way some people are and the company lets it happen. > It's too bad that Sprint appears to be taking a majority share in > regard to the merger. They are trying to make this look like a 50-50 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Gerald I dont think this merger will be good. I just heard a lot people will be laid off How can that be good? To top it off, there is NO real push to talk except IDEN. This will mean that Sprint/Nextel will have run dual networks for a long time. Chip > If it's regarding customer service people they are disposable to cellular > companies. My 15 years of using a cellular service I haven't once talked to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >>Gerald > I dont think this merger will be good. I just heard a lot people will > be laid off If that's your only criteria, than all mergers are bad... Personally, yes, I figure there will be some layoffs. You'd hope that the jobs would be cut more through attrition than through layoffs, but... > How can that be good? To top it off, there is NO real push to talk > except IDEN. This will mean that Sprint/Nextel will have run dual > networks for a long time. You've not read any of the recent press, have you. Nextel is already planning to migrate to CDMA, and Sprint already runs CDMA throughout their network. iDEN is based on TDMA, and Nextel is the last major TDMA-only carrier. TDMA is dead. All of the other TDMA carriers are migrating to GSM. Motorola apparently already has an iDEN-CDMA bridge ready to market. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. >TDMA is dead. >All of the other TDMA carriers are migrating to GSM. GSM *is* TDMA based! If you meant IS-136 you should say so. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>TDMA is dead. >>All of the other TDMA carriers are migrating to GSM. > > GSM *is* TDMA based! If you meant IS-136 you should say so. Yes. You're right, and I *did* mean IS-136. SignatureJustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. >I dont think this merger will be good. I just heard a lot people will >be laid off > >How can that be good? Improves efficiency, reducing costs, thereby resulting in improved service and lower prices. >To top it off, there is NO real push to talk >except IDEN. This will mean that Sprint/Nextel will have run dual >networks for a long time. Both CDMA2000 and GSM now have PTT technology. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > I dont think this merger will be good. I just heard a lot people will > be laid off Heard where? This sort of conflicts with what you say below. > How can that be good? To top it off, there is NO real push to talk > except IDEN. This will mean that Sprint/Nextel will have run dual > networks for a long time. Nextel has committed to iDen through 2007 (2008?). And they have also stated that they won't give it up until a completely comparable (if not better) PTT product is available on CDMA. And running two networks for a couple of years guarantees more jobs than it eliminates (the conflict in statements I mentioned earlier). > Nextel has committed to iDen through 2007 (2008?). And they have also > stated that they won't give it up until a completely comparable (if not > better) PTT product is available on CDMA. And running two networks for a > couple of years guarantees more jobs than it eliminates (the conflict in > statements I mentioned earlier). I thought I heard Nextel also had committed to support high-speed data. I know very little about iDEN, but I've heard it can't handle the data. If true, it sounds as though Nextel's caught in a squeeze. I thought I heard Nextel also had committed to support high-speed data. I know very little about iDEN, but I've heard it can't handle the data. If true, it sounds as though Nextel's caught in a squeeze. They are successfully running high speed data in NC. Full rollout was being considered, but the network upgrade costs were pretty steep ($3B). This and the spectrum swap would have been doable, but quite expensive. No squeeze- just a lot of money to spend. > I thought I heard Nextel also had committed to support high-speed data. > I know very little about iDEN, but I've heard it can't handle the data. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the spectrum swap would have been doable, but quite expensive. No squeeze- > just a lot of money to spend. Ah! Thanks, Scott. >I dont think this merger will be good. I just heard a lot people will >be laid off Because of the merger! That's *never* happened before! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I was at Nextel, you must not have been. I can remember Nextel having Taxi cabs awaiting the newly jobless when they layed off workers. Also having seen 1st hand racism at Nextel, I do not look at it as a great place to work. I actually jumped ship to Sprint and have found it a much nicer place to work than Nexte. SignatureZjman2001 brought to you by http://www.wifi-forum.com/ |
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