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Samsung SCH-1000 - Zero out phone number?

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Nomen Nescio - 12 Sep 2003 07:40 GMT
I have an old Samsung SCH-1000 that I want to give to a friend to leave in his
glovebox just to call 911 in an emergency.  Could someone tell me how to clear
out my phone number from the phone so that if someone breaks into his car they
won't get my phone number along with my old phone?

TIA
O/Siris - 24 Sep 2003 06:48 GMT
> I have an old Samsung SCH-1000 that I want to give to a friend to leave in his
> glovebox just to call 911 in an emergency.  Could someone tell me how to clear
> out my phone number from the phone so that if someone breaks into his car they
> won't get my phone number along with my old phone?
>
> TIA

I don't think you can manually program all zeros or anything like that.  
I think you need to take it into a Sales and Service Center and have
them run the Refurb Tool software on it.  Cleans it out factory clean, I
believe.  Same basic idea as the N400 discussion in another thread.

Another option might be to lock the phone after setting some random lock
code without telling your friend.  I think 911 can still be dialed when
the phone is locked.  Obviously, if a thief tries long enough, they'll
get through and get the info.  But four-keying almost 10,000 different
lock codes to find the one that works isn't exactly a walk in the park  
:)

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Tech Geek - 24 Sep 2003 10:25 GMT
O/Siris <robjvargas@spr?ntpcs.c?m> wrote in article
<MPG.19daec3f59cfd2c09896ce@netnews.comcast.net>:
> > I have an old Samsung SCH-1000 that I want to give to a friend to leave i=
> n his
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> them run the Refurb Tool software on it.  Cleans it out factory clean, I=20
> believe.  Same basic idea as the N400 discussion in another thread.

Most stores can't support the Samsung 1000, that was lost with the
upgrade to Win2K, but they can re-program the phone for all 0's
(000-000-0000).

As for locking it, I don't know if the SCH-1000 can call 911 when locked
(some phones can, some can't).
Justin - 24 Sep 2003 15:57 GMT
In article <c1b15e1ce53edad2690eae63bf142882@dizum.com>,
nobody@dizum.com says...
> I have an old Samsung SCH-1000 that I want to give to a friend to leave in his
> glovebox just to call 911 in an emergency.  Could someone tell me how to clear
> out my phone number from the phone so that if someone breaks into his car they
> won't get my phone number along with my old phone?
>
> TIA

I don't think you can manually program all zeros or anything like that.
I think you need to take it into a Sales and Service Center and have
them run the Refurb Tool software on it.  Cleans it out factory clean, I
believe.  Same basic idea as the N400 discussion in another thread.

Another option might be to lock the phone after setting some random lock
code without telling your friend.  I think 911 can still be dialed when
the phone is locked.  Obviously, if a thief tries long enough, they'll
get through and get the info.  But four-keying almost 10,000 different
lock codes to find the one that works isn't exactly a walk in the park
:)

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Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving out
advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Moonraker - 24 Sep 2003 19:43 GMT
> Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving out
> advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Ummmm......quick question, Justin.   Did "you" know the answer?

Or has the giant hard-on you have for Rob drained all the blood from your
brain?
Justin - 24 Sep 2003 20:08 GMT
> > Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving out
> > advice when you don't know what you're talking about.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Or has the giant hard-on you have for Rob drained all the blood from your
> brain?

No, I didn't know the answer.  And that's the point.  Rob is typical of *2
morons who give out an answer because they work for Sprint and think they
know it all.  People ask questions on this board and he's running around
handing out poor advice, as an employee.  People come here to ask questions,
and they get just as many answers here from Sprint employees as they do *2
operators.

I didn't see you bashing him when he was following me around calling me a
liar every other post. I didn't see you accusing him of having a hard on for
me when he was following me around spouting "liar liar".  So take your
bigoted opinions and shove them up your a.s.  I'm just pointing out that he
posts useless information.  Also waiting on him to clear up where I lied in
my story, why he followed me to the ATTWS forum, why he posts incorrect
information, why he refuses to discuss a topic all the way after he butts in
and claims someone is wrong.

If you don't want to read my posts, as I've told others, plonk me.
Moonraker - 24 Sep 2003 20:51 GMT
> > > Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving out
> > > advice when you don't know what you're talking about.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> No, I didn't know the answer.  And that's the point.

Exactly.  So why did you waste your time and Usenet's bandwidth?

Rob is typical of *2
> morons who give out an answer because they work for Sprint and think they
> know it all.  People ask questions on this board and he's running around
> handing out poor advice, as an employee.

So?   You think WE (the other posters) don't know what idiots Sprint hires?
Aren't you preaching to the choir?

I'm not interested in getting into a pissing match with you...but think
about this:

If you didn't "know the answer"....'splain to me how you "knew" Rob's answer
was wrong?  I don't know,  either way, if he is right, or wrong.   All I saw
was you jumping on him without refuting with any facts.   He may be a liar,
moron, and totally inept.  Or not.   I don't know....or care.

People come here to ask questions,
> and they get just as many answers here from Sprint employees as they do *2
> operators.

Looks like some folks just come around to take pot-shots.

> I didn't see you bashing him when he was following me around calling me a
> liar every other post. I didn't see you accusing him of having a hard on for
> me when he was following me around spouting "liar liar".

No, you didn't.  Probably because that was before I ever subscribed?   Or
that I just didn't care?    Or, until you guy's little pissing match went
over the top?   I

So take your
> bigoted opinions and shove them up your a.s.

Do you even know the definition of "bigoted"?

I'm just pointing out that he
> posts useless information.  Also waiting on him to clear up where I lied in
> my story, why he followed me to the ATTWS forum, why he posts incorrect
> information, why he refuses to discuss a topic all the way after he butts in
> and claims someone is wrong.

And "you" incessantly pointing this out is "not" useless information?   We
got the point 250 posts ago.

OK...while you are waiting on said apology,   why not go stand in the corner
and hold your breath?  He ain't likely to apologize,  and all the while he's
laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He says
something and you spew and fume like a 39 cent teakettle.

Watching you two argue is like watching the 40 yard dash at the Special
Olympics.   The winner will still be a retard.

> If you don't want to read my posts, as I've told others, plonk me.

Like I "needed" your permission?
Justin - 24 Sep 2003 21:12 GMT
> > > > Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving
> out
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you didn't "know the answer"....'splain to me how you "knew" Rob's answer
> was wrong?

It's real easy when Tech Geek comes along behind him to correct the
misinformation.

I don't know,  either way, if he is right, or wrong.   All I saw
> was you jumping on him without refuting with any facts.   He may be a liar,
> moron, and totally inept.  Or not.   I don't know....or care.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Looks like some folks just come around to take pot-shots.

Not at first, but eventually it ends up that way sometimes, yes.

> > I didn't see you bashing him when he was following me around calling me a
> > liar every other post. I didn't see you accusing him of having a hard on
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> And "you" incessantly pointing this out is "not" useless information?   We
> got the point 250 posts ago.

Apparently not.

> OK...while you are waiting on said apology,   why not go stand in the corner
> and hold your breath?  He ain't likely to apologize,  and all the while he's
> laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He says
> something and you spew and fume like a 39 cent teakettle.

Nah, I'll keep posting, thank you.

> Watching you two argue is like watching the 40 yard dash at the Special
> Olympics.   The winner will still be a retard.
>
> > If you don't want to read my posts, as I've told others, plonk me.
>
> Like I "needed" your permission?

Just an idea.
Moonraker - 24 Sep 2003 21:21 GMT
> It's real easy when Tech Geek comes along behind him to correct the
> misinformation.

So,  where's "your" responsibility in all this?

> > Looks like some folks just come around to take pot-shots.
>
> Not at first, but eventually it ends up that way sometimes, yes.

Just like rasslin' with a pig in the mud.....you get all dirty and the pig
just laughs at you.

.

> > And "you" incessantly pointing this out is "not" useless information?   We
> > got the point 250 posts ago.
>
> Apparently not.

The "CUT THE CRAP" post didn't give you a clue, eh?

> he's
> > laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He says
> > something and you spew and fume like a 39 cent teakettle.
>
> Nah, I'll keep posting, thank you.

The winner will still be a retard........

> > Watching you two argue is like watching the 40 yard dash at the Special
> > Olympics.   The winner will still be a retard.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Just an idea.

Ay-yeah.    Could be that judicious use of "your" kill filter would do
wonders for you, too.
Justin - 24 Sep 2003 21:28 GMT
> > It's real easy when Tech Geek comes along behind him to correct the
> > misinformation.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Just like rasslin' with a pig in the mud.....you get all dirty and the pig
> just laughs at you.

No one's laughing when everyone watching gets mud slung on them, too.

> .
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> The "CUT THE CRAP" post didn't give you a clue, eh?

f.ck you.  I'm here till he apologizes.  Deal with it.

> > he's
> > > laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The winner will still be a retard........

That's original.

> > > Watching you two argue is like watching the 40 yard dash at the Special
> > > Olympics.   The winner will still be a retard.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Ay-yeah.    Could be that judicious use of "your" kill filter would do
> wonders for you, too.

Why?
Moonraker - 24 Sep 2003 21:50 GMT
> > Just like rasslin' with a pig in the mud.....you get all dirty and the pig
> > just laughs at you.
>
> No one's laughing when everyone watching gets mud slung on them, too.

That's the point....you be slinging mud all over everybody while you are
persuing your little vendetta.  See?   Or are you just that arrogant and
rude to subject "us" to your little tantrum?

> f.ck you.  I'm here till he apologizes.  Deal with it.

I take that as a promise you will leave, permanently, if Rob "does"
apologize?

============================================================================
=================
Uhhhhh.....ROB?  Ping,  Rob?   Rob, dammmit?  Rob?   Could you "please"?
Rob?  You can cross your fingers behind your back,  I don't care.  Just
appease this little jerk,   please?  ROB? HELLO?  ROB?
============================================================================
================
How's that?  I dealt with it.

> > > he's
> > > > laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> That's original.

Yeah.   Amazin' ain't it?

> > Ay-yeah.    Could be that judicious use of "your" kill filter would do
> > wonders for you, too.
>
> Why?

Then you wouldn't be faced with the insane need to show your a.s every time
somebody you disagree with happens to post?
Justin - 24 Sep 2003 21:55 GMT
> > > Just like rasslin' with a pig in the mud.....you get all dirty and the
> pig
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> persuing your little vendetta.  See?   Or are you just that arrogant and
> rude to subject "us" to your little tantrum?

Like I said, killfile me if you don't like it.  Alternatively, Rob can end
all of this today.

> > f.ck you.  I'm here till he apologizes.  Deal with it.
>
> I take that as a promise you will leave, permanently, if Rob "does"
> apologize?

If it's a REAL apology, not another denial/insult.

============================================================================
> =================
> Uhhhhh.....ROB?  Ping,  Rob?   Rob, dammmit?  Rob?   Could you "please"?
> Rob?  You can cross your fingers behind your back,  I don't care.  Just
> appease this little jerk,   please?  ROB? HELLO?  ROB?

============================================================================
> ================
> How's that?  I dealt with it.

Thanks : )

> > > > he's
> > > > > laughing his a.s off at you getting played like a cheap fiddle.   He
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Then you wouldn't be faced with the insane need to show your a.s every time
> somebody you disagree with happens to post?

Ahh, it's no inconvenience for me.
O/Siris - 25 Sep 2003 07:03 GMT
> ===========================================================================> ================> Uhhhhh.....ROB?  Ping,  Rob?   Rob, dammmit?  Rob?   Could you "please"?
> Rob?  You can cross your fingers behind your back,  I don't care.  Just
> appease this little jerk,   please?  ROB? HELLO?  ROB?
> ===========================================================================> ===============> How's that?  I dealt with it.

I made a promise to someone.  I'm sticking to it.

A+ for effort, though.

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Justin - 25 Sep 2003 14:22 GMT
In article <huncb.20804$iO.17156@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, moonrak9
@bellsouth.net says...

============================================================================
> =================
> Uhhhhh.....ROB?  Ping,  Rob?   Rob, dammmit?  Rob?   Could you "please"?
> Rob?  You can cross your fingers behind your back,  I don't care.  Just
> appease this little jerk,   please?  ROB? HELLO?  ROB?

============================================================================
> ================
> How's that?  I dealt with it.

I made a promise to someone.  I'm sticking to it.

A+ for effort, though.

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A promise to be a complete and utter moron?  You're doing fine.

Tech Geek - 25 Sep 2003 02:08 GMT
"Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
<df00135ed6e277cf2922719b69aeeeef@news.teranews.com>:

> > If you didn't "know the answer"....'splain to me how you "knew" Rob's
> answer
> > was wrong?
>
> It's real easy when Tech Geek comes along behind him to correct the
> misinformation.

Considering that I've suggested what he said about the N400, 5250 and
also though work with other model phones, it was a very safe assumption
for him that we could do the SCH-1000.

There was no way for him to know that the Win2K upgrade disabled the
driver file for the Samsung 1000. (along wiht a few other phones)

The majority of the phones do have a 'refurbish' tool that the techs
use, but if they can't, they can easily get the MSL for the phone,
re-program it with an unuseable number (123-456-7890 or 000-000-1234
etc.. and show the customer how to delete the phonebook.

If you want the complete list of disabled phones (Note: some stores
(very VERY few) may still be running Win95 and might still be able to
work on these phones, but they are very rare)

Samsung 1000, 1500, 1900, 2000
Sanyo 3000
All Qualcomm phones except the 1960 and 2760 (limited support on those,
too)
Motorola SC-925, limited support on the Startac Single Band (there was
never support for the Shark)
Nokia 2170, 5170, 6185 (I think I have the model numbers correct)
All Sony models

(I think that is the complete list)

All these phones are no longer being sold by Sprint PCS, and all models
are most likely out of warranty (if there is one under warranty, the
stores can swap them out as a warranty replacement).  No updates have
come out for these phones since I've been with the company (3 years)
except the 2700 (came out right after I started).
O/Siris - 25 Sep 2003 07:05 GMT
> "Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
> <df00135ed6e277cf2922719b69aeeeef@news.teranews.com>:
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>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

Thanks, man.  Good info.  Maybe you answered when I asked in another
thread and I just haven't seen it yet.  When these upgrades are
available, I know those are no-charge.  What about, like the original
poster, someone wanting to "wipe" their phone clean.  No charge for
that, too?  And diagnostics?  Also no charge?

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Tech Geek - 25 Sep 2003 10:11 GMT
O/Siris <robjvargas@spr?ntpcs.c?m> wrote in article
<MPG.19dc41a9199d26f19896d8@netnews.comcast.net>:

> Thanks, man.  Good info.  Maybe you answered when I asked in another=20
> thread and I just haven't seen it yet.  When these upgrades are=20
> available, I know those are no-charge.  What about, like the original=20
> poster, someone wanting to "wipe" their phone clean.  No charge for=20
> that, too?  And diagnostics?  Also no charge?

There is no charge for testing, SW/PRL updates, wiping out information,
re-programming, phonebook swaps etc...

Now, if someone is in often to have the same proceedure done (wipe out
then reprogram) the store may say something.

Also, sometimes the phone won't connect to the computer, and if that
happens, then we will not be able to do a SW update, or any kind of
phonebook reading, but some phones will let us do a PRL update over the
air.

The only thing most techs will not (or should not) do is troubleshooting
3rd party accessories, such as chargers etc. as this is a liability
issue, also, missing antennas, 'flashing' antennas, and other
non-standard antennas will mess up with the testing results (for the
worse) and if the techs don't have the antenna for that phone handy,
then they cann't get an accurate test (yes, I've seen a flasher antenna
give out much worse results than the antenna that is supposed to go with
the phone).

(Accessories other than the ones sold by SprintPCS and the OEM may not
be tested and little incidents like
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=205514 may
happen.)
Phill. - 25 Sep 2003 10:50 GMT
> (Accessories other than the ones sold by SprintPCS and the OEM may not
> be tested and little incidents like
> http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=205514 may
> happen.)

You could say that a cheap car charger burnt up, and apparently
destroyed the battery in the cell phone.

I previously posted that you buy junk made in China you take your
chances. You buy the OEM car charger its good insurance.

I am always amazed at folks who will run out and spend hundreds on a new
cell phone every 6 months, up their cell phone contract for Vision, and
then want to save $10 on a car charger.
Tech Geek - 25 Sep 2003 11:53 GMT
"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
<Pearl-1F1CD1.04500925092003@news05.west.earthlink.net>:

> I am always amazed at folks who will run out and spend hundreds on a new
> cell phone every 6 months, up their cell phone contract for Vision, and
> then want to save $10 on a car charger.

They're the same people who go out and spend $2500 on a brand new
computer and don't bother with spending an extra $50-$75 for a GOOD
surge protector.
Phill. - 25 Sep 2003 13:09 GMT
> "Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
> <Pearl-1F1CD1.04500925092003@news05.west.earthlink.net>:
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> computer and don't bother with spending an extra $50-$75 for a GOOD
> surge protector.

A Surge protector only protects you from spikes of high voltage. One
needs a Battery backup to protect against voltage dropouts (low voltage).
Judging by the 3 or 4 squeels my battery backup puts out every summer,
its a good investment.
Group Special Mobile - 25 Sep 2003 12:51 GMT
>I previously posted that you buy junk made in China you take your
>chances. You buy the OEM car charger its good insurance.

Maybe you're not aware that some OEM chargers are made in China?

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Phill. - 25 Sep 2003 13:07 GMT
> >I previously posted that you buy junk made in China you take your
> >chances. You buy the OEM car charger its good insurance.
>
> Maybe you're not aware that some OEM chargers are made in China?
I would call no-name made in China junk, hopefully OEM is better.

My Samsung car charger is made in Korea, thank you very little.

If you buy a car charger in a Sprint store, or the OEM charger of your
phones manufacturer, you'll be covered if anything bad happens. You buy
a cheap no-name car charger off of EBay, and it destroys yourt phones
battery (or phone) you are on your own.
VZW Guy - 24 Sep 2003 19:59 GMT
come on Justin.. that wasnt needed.. his advise made some since..

But in respince to O/siris' post, I think you can enter all 0's or at
least enter 123-456-7890 in the programming of the phone.
But he is gonna need the MSL for the phone.

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"Justin" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
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>
> In article <c1b15e1ce53edad2690eae63bf142882@dizum.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Here you go posting wild a.s guesses again.  You need to stop giving out
> advice when you don't know what you're talking about.
Justin Green - 25 Sep 2003 04:22 GMT
> come on Justin.. that wasnt needed.. his advise made some since..
>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

But it was wrong.  As usual.
P N - 25 Sep 2003 06:49 GMT
go to sprintpcs store or call cs to get ##xxxxxx number; from there you
can enter any number you want when asked for "mobile number"...

"Justin Green" <justin@cjteam.com> wrote in article
<vn4nrfm8k3aja6@corp.supernews.com>:

> > come on Justin.. that wasnt needed.. his advise made some since..
> >
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> But it was wrong.  As usual.
 
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