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Larry - 25 Feb 2007 22:46 GMT
Have you guys seen this:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%
2FLayout&cid=1160093298732&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

Plug the aircard into the router and share one cellular internet.

Way ta go, Sprint and Linksys!

Larry
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Ness_net - 25 Feb 2007 23:13 GMT
No news here. These have been around for quite awhile now.

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/kr1-router/ (rated best)

http://www.topglobalusa.com/

There are more....

Could I ask what does "Sprint" have to do with the below? I see no mention of them.
It certainly will work with other carriers as well.

Also, there is no mention of Rev A, which is a deal breaker nowadays.

> Have you guys seen this:
> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%
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> Larry
Larry - 26 Feb 2007 02:13 GMT
> Could I ask what does "Sprint" have to do with the below? I see no
> mention of them. It certainly will work with other carriers as well.
>
> Also, there is no mention of Rev A, which is a deal breaker nowadays.

I suppose Sprint is Linksys' partner to make it work.  I found the
information on the website and thought it very ironic, givin the 5GB/month
limit on Verizon's shitty "unlimited" internet service, which would render
it useless on Verizon.

Larry
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Ness_net - 26 Feb 2007 03:47 GMT
That's funny..... (and very wrong).

I have a KR-1 and VZW and it certainly isn't "useless".

Far from it.

Quite useful actually, contrary to your frequent misinformation.

I just don't DL porn or steal music (I'm not a bandwidth hog).

> I suppose Sprint is Linksys' partner to make it work.  I found the
> information on the website and thought it very ironic, givin the 5GB/month
> limit on Verizon's shitty "unlimited" internet service, which would render
> it useless on Verizon.
>
> Larry
Larry - 26 Feb 2007 13:25 GMT
> That's funny..... (and very wrong).
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> Quite useful actually, contrary to your frequent misinformation.

A ROUTER would make connections to MANY computers in a NETWORK all
sharing shitty Verizon's 5GB/month limit.  By day 10, it would be dead.

If you consider this "useful", I'm very proud of you.

The false advertising of "unlimited" is what pisses me, and many others,
off.  Verizon should be prosecuted for these lies.  5GB/month ISN'T
"unlimited" by any stretch of the lawyer imagination.

Cellular phone companies haven't gotten over the idea of selling data by
the kilobyte.  5GB/month must turn their faces red.  Sometime sit down
and figure out how much 1GB costs you on the SMS ripoff.

As usual, your constant stream of defending these schemes makes one
suspicious of your motives.

Larry
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Ness_net - 26 Feb 2007 19:13 GMT
Larry, my "motives" are purely to make sure TRUTHFUL info is posted here.
You tend to BS, generalize and 'stretch' things a bit... And I'm being kind.

Absolutely, it is a router. But, just because it IS a router, doesn't mean you
have to run 20 computers on it. I run 2-3 devices in a mobile environment.
Much easier than swapping the card between machines and allows for
simultaneous use of multiple machines. Just because it CAN have more,
doesn't mean you DO. At least for most (sane) folks anyway....

You seem to always fail to comprehend that not everyone feels obligated to
completely max out a router, a cable modem, or a cellular wireless connection.

Is digital gluttony a term? Certainly you are a bandwidth hog from what I have read.

It is VERY "Useful" because I conduct my business, (both personal and professional)
wherever I may be at the time - a very "useful" thing for a mobile professional. Having
wireless data saves me countless hours and a ton of money - two very "useful" things in
my book. I get online and do what I need to do. But, no, I'm not downloading stolen
music, movies, porn or whatever - or compelled to 'pig out' like some folks...

You are fictionalizing again... I have stated the below multiple times in the past.

We do agree on something. "Unlimited" should be like it implies - Unlimited. I do
agree that VZW is not doing themselves any good by this - bad PR for sure. Certainly
they were saying one thing and doing another. Legal exposure - maybe. That is why it
now states 5G very plainly in their terms. It is clear now what the actual limit is.

I still feel that the whole thing is chicken sh.t, but then again, I'm not compelled to pin up a
connection and pig out either. So, even though I don't personally like the principal of
not actually unlimited/5G, the service more than suits my needs, makes my life easier and
helps me to make money, so I use it everyday, smile and pay my bill every month.

And don't bitch about it.....

> A ROUTER would make connections to MANY computers in a NETWORK all
> sharing shitty Verizon's 5GB/month limit.  By day 10, it would be dead.
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> Larry
David W Studeman - 28 Feb 2007 08:39 GMT
> Larry, my "motives" are purely to make sure TRUTHFUL info is posted here.
> You tend to BS, generalize and 'stretch' things a bit... And I'm being
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo&mode=related&search=

If you're using a router and using more than one computer you are already
violating Verizon's tos anyway. It's like we're comparing degrees of
sinning here, by using a router with Verizon's service, you are still a
sinner in their eyes much less having two to three computers hooked to it.
It does seem ridiculous that one can only surf and email, no streaming
media of any kind is allowed unless it is from Verizon themselves. 5GB is
nothing these days. More and more services use bandwidth, it is pointless
to have a fat pipe coming to you if you are only allowed to consume through
a small straw.

Dave
Cubit - 22 Mar 2007 17:51 GMT
$229  -ouch

> No news here. These have been around for quite awhile now.
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>> Larry
Larry - 22 Mar 2007 22:45 GMT
"Cubit" <no@not.not> wrote in news:9uyMh.508$rO7.476
@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:

> $229  -ouch

$60/month for only 5GB...Ouch, too!

Larry
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George - 23 Mar 2007 15:45 GMT
> "Cubit" <no@not.not> wrote in news:9uyMh.508$rO7.476
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> Larry

Just so people can understand you might want to elaborate why this is a
problem for the typical mobile aircard user since statistically 90% of
the bandwidth is used by 5% of the users who are into p2p or p0rn.
Todd Allcock - 23 Mar 2007 16:02 GMT
> Just so people can understand you might want to elaborate why this is a
problem for the typical mobile aircard user since statistically 90% of
the bandwidth is used by 5% of the users who are into p2p or p0rn.

Because legit users might need more than 5GB as well.  Web developers,
photographers, even FTPing large business files could consume 5GB in a
month easy  The porn slurpers are taking waaay more than 5GB, so 10, 20
or even 40GB might be a more reasonable limit, yet still have the desired
effect of locking out abusers.

It just seems to me that one should be allowed to download more in a
month than he can fit on his digicamera's CF card!  ;-)
Notan - 23 Mar 2007 17:01 GMT
>> Just so people can understand you might want to elaborate why this is a
> problem for the typical mobile aircard user since statistically 90% of
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> It just seems to me that one should be allowed to download more in a
> month than he can fit on his digicamera's CF card!  ;-)

I know I'm just talking semantics... I was at a Verizon store, yesterday,
and was told that 6GB is the current monthly limit.

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Todd Allcock - 24 Mar 2007 02:09 GMT
> I know I'm just talking semantics... I was at a Verizon store, yesterday,

> and was told that 6GB is the current monthly limit.

Now that's results! Since this thread started, Verizon has already
increased the download limit 20%!  ;-)
Larry - 24 Mar 2007 07:54 GMT
> Just so people can understand you might want to elaborate why this is a
> problem for the typical mobile aircard user since statistically 90% of
> the bandwidth is used by 5% of the users who are into p2p or p0rn.

Doesn't matter, unless the webpages have so much movie spam on them
loading up it causes you to get dumped.  Some of those quicktime movies a
webpage loads to sell you something you don't want are over 2-5MB!  It
wouldn't take long for them to suck up 5GB/month, at all.  AND, they KEEP
downloading if you keep the webpage up while you're reading what little
content are on them, these days.

You might end up being trashed from the aircard network just because of
the spam movies from the ad mongers.

P2P and everything else normal net users do is FORBIDDEN.  I'd been told
by Alltel's people it wasn't the case on Alltel, but that wasn't true if
you search through the Alltel website.  They have the same awful
restrictions....webpages, email and company intranet ONLY....everything
else is forbidden.  If a webpage forwards you to an FTP server, you've
broken their AUP without clicking a thing.  How stupid.....

Larry
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wirelessfan - 25 Feb 2007 23:37 GMT
Larry Wrote:
> Have you guys seen this:
> http://tinyurl.com/36aseb
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> Larry

Your link doesn't seem to work
Agent_C - 26 Feb 2007 19:37 GMT
>Plug the aircard into the router and share one cellular internet.

* Expensive

* Will not work with some Verizon issued air cards. (Including the
5740 / 20)

* Against the Terms of Service. If you get caught, you'll get TOS'ed

A_C
J Figueredo - 01 Mar 2007 05:01 GMT
Allow me to jump in.....

The Kyocera router works like a charm, I deployed dozens of them for a RE
Developer I used to work for, and when I did not have shitty service from
the local telco I threw in a Sprint card and voila....you've got
broadband....it even comes with a cigarette lighter plug for the car.

VZW has the stupid restriction on their usage, but in a few occasions I did
it, when they tried to cancel them I would get on the phone with my account
manager.

The fact is we're years behind many countries in broadband access and
speeds..but these routers are the solution to Internet access in many cases.

My .02

Jose

> Have you guys seen this:
> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%
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> Larry
Larry - 01 Mar 2007 06:28 GMT
> VZW has the stupid restriction on their usage, but in a few occasions
> I did it, when they tried to cancel them I would get on the phone with
> my account manager.

I have a friend who works for a huge construction firm.  His company
provides him with a Verizon aircard and Verizon unlimited cellphone so he
can call the company's mainframe as a virtual terminal to do business.

We've really hit this little card hard, well over 5G/mo, streaming,
downloading, FTP, all kinds of forbidden stuff.  He even leaves Skype
running on it the whole time he's away from home and calls me often on
"Verizon Skype" discount cellphone service.

I think large corporate customers must not be strapped down to 5GB/month if
you buy a thousand accounts/cards from them.  We can't seem to get them to
dump him...(c;

I suppose it has to do with the $20K/month cellphone bill...??
 
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